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#7501 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 20:09

"Brickies" was at Homebush...

I never went there when there was anything like that going on, but I once worked in a place down the end of the road that had an awful lot of tyre marks on the road outside.

Where was that pic of Bill sitting in the P4 taken? I can only imagine it was Surfers...

Let's not forget Bill's speed potential, either. When Paul Hawkins couldn't get the GTS327 qualified well enough at Bathurst, Bill went out in it with his helmet and armband on and got the job done!

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#7502 Lola5000

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 22:15

"Brickies" was at Homebush...

I never went there when there was anything like that going on, but I once worked in a place down the end of the road that had an awful lot of tyre marks on the road outside.

Where was that pic of Bill sitting in the P4 taken? I can only imagine it was Surfers...

Let's not forget Bill's speed potential, either. When Paul Hawkins couldn't get the GTS327 qualified well enough at Bathurst, Bill went out in it with his helmet and armband on and got the job done!

yes Surfers as the GTB275/4 is there.
What a great car,still in NSW with a long term owner,who also is a Brabham owner.

#7503 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 00:03

Hi Wirra, Try this link to an interview with Bill Brown. http://www.speedcafe.../09/bill-brown/

Also, a pic from the time.

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Bill is sitting in the P4.

And at Warwick Farm Creek Corner 1971.

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Copyright Rod Mackenzie.

Cheers

A typical Porker pic of the day,though Bill did seem more sideways and wheel hiking than most. That big pendulem in the back. The Escort {Stilwell?] has a big understeer, though he may well have been backing off to advoid the Porsche.

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#7504 lyntonh

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 01:44

Series Production in the 65 lap race at Bathurst at Easter 1971.
(I remember thinking that it seemed so endless.)
(Just hurry up & get it over with & bring on the real racing cars!!)

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Clive Millis, Bo Seton & Geoff Leeds

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Geoff Hunter & Geoff Leeds


#7505 ellrosso

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:21

I'm just re-scanning David Keep's Longford shots at the moment and couldn't resist posting this one - one of my favourite shots. Viaduct 1967

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#7506 wolseley680

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:36

1975 Sandown Tasman meeting

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Warwick Brown #2, Johnnie Walker #7

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#7507 Stephen W

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:42

I'm just re-scanning David Keep's Longford shots at the moment and couldn't resist posting this one - one of my favourite shots. Viaduct 1967

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Fantastic shot - thanks for posting.

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#7508 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 18:40

Originally posted by wolseley680
1975 Sandown Tasman meeting
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Warwick Brown #2, Johnnie Walker #7


A good shot... and an unusual place to photograph from...

When was it taken?

#7509 wolseley680

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 21:06

Another Shot from the 1975 Tasman round at Sandown

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#11 Ken Smith Lola T332
#3 Garrie Cooper Elfin MR5

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#7510 wolseley680

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 21:08

A good shot... and an unusual place to photograph from...

When was it taken?

Probably on the warm up lap when things are a bit slower.

#7511 mymemoryfails

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 21:36

Probably on the warm up lap when things are a bit slower.


And Johnny didn't look as "neat" the first lap of the race IIRC.

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#7512 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 23:06

Your memory doesn't fail at all...

If that photo had been taken on the opening lap it would be full of flying fence, fibreglass and everything else!

As he relates in our F5000 book, John had a very trick engine in for this race and could pass anyone up the back straight. He's probably just put the acid on the Molloy Chev in Warwick's car right there.

#7513 mymemoryfails

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 23:16

I was standing maybe 50 metres on from where this photo was taken, taking a virtual head-on alignment to the back straight, and I can assure you.. it was one of the unforgettable crashes I've seen.

Great book too, I'm sure you've heard that before.

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#7514 wolseley680

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 00:31

last of my 75 Sandown Tasman photos -:

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#89 Chris Milton McLaren M22
can't see number on other car

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#7515 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:27

Originally posted by wolseley680
last of my 75 Sandown Tasman photos -:

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#89 Chris Milton McLaren M22
can't see number on other car


Should be No 18, I think...

Jim Murdoch in the Begg 018, they were side by side on the grid in this race and I think it was his last drive in the car too. Any chance you can scan these pics a bit bigger?

#7516 lyntonh

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:06

Warwick Farm Tasman Meeting 1971 Practice

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#7517 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:49

Warwick Farm Tasman Meeting 1971 Practice

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I think the Torana and Mini define both unersteer and oversteer. Both at angles not conducive for fast laps.
And the Anglia is a pic of widened steel rims, probably a 4" band in those. As so many of us started with.

#7518 lyntonh

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:17

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I reckon this is Manny Xuereb again, after he'd added the wider wheels & the flares to match.

#7519 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:24

Most racecars are a constant evolution, the 5000 pics also show that.

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#7520 Dale Harvey

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 20:36

Barry Seton in the GTR #5

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#7521 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 21:28

Originally posted by Dale Harvey
Barry Seton in the GTR #5


Which I've also heard described as 'Harry's prototype of the XU1 for testing at Bathurst'... it ran at the Easter meeting prior to the introduction of the XU-1.

#7522 wagons46

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 00:06


Harry didn't have anything to do with the Seton GTR. The only person other than Barry who was involved in the engine development was Graham Waggott .



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:15

Showing on tv tomorrow night is a Doco about the Granville Train crash, I remember that one of those that were killed in this accident raced cars, who was he & what did he drive. I believe he lived in the lower Blue Mountain ares.

#7524 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:42

Yes, the owner of the Gladiator...

I don't remember his name right now, unfortunately I also can't find the obituary in RCN.

And yes, he lived in the lower Blue Mountains and was preparing the Gladiator for the All Historic Amaroo.

#7525 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:59

Don Simpson

http://www.motormarq...em/36-gladiator

#7526 AnnieOz

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 22:32

Strange how connections are.
The forensic lawyer and family are the Osman family. Some of the Historic Racing fraternity will remember Andrew in the Cooper amongst other things - this happened during his childhood days. Father, Boris, was a brilliant engineer and did a lot of forensic engineering work including trying to make sense of the causes of the Granville disaster.
I can't remember if they used correct names in the film or not.

#7527 ellrosso

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 00:07

Another shot of Seton GTR (always liked those Cairns mags) + a few randoms I've recently scanned.

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#7528 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:34

Originally posted by AnnieOz
Strange how connections are.
The forensic lawyer and family are the Osman family. Some of the Historic Racing fraternity will remember Andrew in the Cooper amongst other things - this happened during his childhood days. Father, Boris, was a brilliant engineer and did a lot of forensic engineering work including trying to make sense of the causes of the Granville disaster.
I can't remember if they used correct names in the film or not.


I don't think Andrew was all that young, actually...

The crash took place in 1977, not later than 1983 (from memory) Andrew was racing the Cooper. Some licence there, I'm thinking.

What is sad is that before the first and the second screening of the Mini-Series (The Day of the Roses), with some editing having taken place for the second one, both had died. This was acknowledged in the final scenes as the credits rolled.

Now can anyone explain why this wouldn't have happened if the construction of the Sandy Hollow-Maryvale link had not been stopped in 1947?

#7529 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 23:01

Another shot of Seton GTR (always liked those Cairns mags) + a few randoms I've recently scanned.

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52D,The inspiration for the car that nearly won Bathurst this year!
The Seton Torana and the Ray Morris car have a single seat style rollbar, Bo,s is alloy!
Those wheels on Setons Torana, I wonder if Globe used those for inspiration for the Sprintmaster, they are not disimilar.

#7530 Twin Window

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:43

All the wheel-related posts have been moved into their own thread which can be found here.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:06

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Tom Sulman .....practice Bathurst 1970, followed by Bob Rollinghoff (?) & Ray Strong.



sorry Lynton but that not me
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#7532 275 GTB-4

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:37

sorry Lynton but that not me
bob


Not a worry...Welcome Bob :up:

#7533 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:26

Another Clubman winner in our midst...

A very big welcome to Bob! I see you've been lurking for a while, how about posting more often?

#7534 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:57

sorry Lynton but that not me
bob


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I had my doubts....
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here's the same car at Catalina in January 1970

The caption given in a reply by "BT35 8" on 1 9 10 in this thread was "Robin Hood Elfin Ford 1498cc".

John Medley's Bathurst book doesn't have him driving the Clubbie that Easter at Bathurst.

He's down in JM's entry list in an yellow Elan numbered 88.

Perhaps he scuttled the Elan & went back to the Elfin.



#7535 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:59

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While we're at it, we might as well see if we can't work out who the clubbie is in this photo.

A first timer at Bathurst, & a bit beaten up....and an interesting ridge in the bonnet.

#7536 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 23:05

sorry Lynton but that not me
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#7537 john medley

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 23:09

Yes
Hi Bob.( and the front end out of that car is still going strong in my Formula Junior Nota)

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 00:41

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But...this is....

yes Lynton that's the one .
thanks for the welcome fellas :wave:
hi john good to see some of the car still going :clap:
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:19

Just going thru a few of my own shots and found these 2 from Amaroo Historics 1987. TNFr's Dick Willis' Cooper Climax and Paul Hamilton's Elfin 600.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 13:04

An early shot of Paul's 600.

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#7541 Wirra

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 17:28

... Amaroo Historics 1987. TNFr's Dick Willis' Cooper Climax .
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I'm curious as to the configuration of the seatbelt fitted at the time?

#7542 Paul Hamilton

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 19:50

An early shot of Paul's 600.

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With a very young TNFer in mums arms!! photo taken on the night te 600 was completed with a very young James Lambert not very much older than the car his dad helped to put together

#7543 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 21:33

I can still put up those other early shots you gave me a few years ago, Paul...

Do you want them added in?

#7544 Paul Hamilton

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 21:58

I can still put up those other early shots you gave me a few years ago, Paul...

Do you want them added in?


Yes Ray. I am sure they would attract some interest amongst the Elfin fanciers. As I recall those early photos all came to me via Barry Catford but I am sure he would not mind your posting them. The photo of the car with James and his mum was taken by Ron Lambert when the prototype 600 was about to roll out the door at Edwardstown for the first time on the way to its debut at Calder.

#7545 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:00

I'm curious as to the configuration of the seatbelt fitted at the time?

I love those goggles Dick.

#7546 Dick Willis

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:26

Do the seatbelts and "goggles" look any better now ? The Cooper, which is usually very reliable disgraced itself in New Zealand last month with DNF's in nearly every race due to overheating, suspect the water pump has lost its impellor blades. Is this a common Climax ailment ?

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#7547 275 GTB-4

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:02

Do the seatbelts and "goggles" look any better now ?

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So Evel left you that helmet in his will Willis? :)

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#7548 Wirra

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:03

Do the seatbelts and "goggles" look any better now ? ...

None so blind as those who do not see... Dick, sorry I initially confused the the shoulder strap with the top of the windscreen and wrongly concluded that only a lap belt (or none) was fitted and wondered if such restrains were permitted way back in '87.

As you were.

#7549 Gordon Graham

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:15

The second picture, with the car in Mildren green, is one I took in 1992 or 93, BTW

#7550 Dick Willis

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:15

Thanks for the loan of it Gordon, for a good cause !