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#7901 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:29

Great shots. If my eyes don't deceive me, the major sponsor on the Monaro (350, not 327) is a cake shop. A major source of funding sadly neglected to date by the racing teams of the world.

You still see that sort of sponsor on low budget classes, even some National level ones. Supercar the budget requirement has 2 or 3 more zeros on the value required. And really is the racing that much better? And the category does not own you, if you feel like going and doing a hillclimb you can.

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#7902 Librules

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:35

Methinks you missed the tongue in cheek, Lee. Don't worry, I hillclimb over in Mexico frequently.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:46

That sort of advertising would surely improve their 'turnover'. :blush:


I have sent a begging letter to this mob on your behalf Greg....on the understanding that I cream off some of the profit from your sponsorship...

http://www.mackies.com.au/

#7904 GMACKIE

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:40

Crumbs Mick, you haven't been loafing! Do you think you can get some dough from them?

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:48

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#7906 Librules

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:21

Crikey. If you keep rolling out great stuff like this you'll have to have your own thread................

#7907 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:51

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A well known FJ that is still around. It had an article in Muscle Car a few years ago.
I love the wind up in the tyres.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 00:08

HT 350.


Of course... :blush:

How did I fluff that one?



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:31

Crumbs Mick, you haven't been loafing! Do you think you can get some dough from them?

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#7910 GMACKIE

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:06

Trust you, Rod... :clap: :clap: Nothing half-baked there.

#7911 gray chandler

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:21


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'' AH what the hell''! here's another.

#7912 bigREV

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 15:24

That Eh had a long history Harrop ran it in the 6 cylinder series at Calder ... then it had a holden F5000 motor. It then went to Wayne Mahnken who ran it with a turbo 6 cylinder. Anybody know any more of the cars history and if it still exists.

#7913 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 21:53

It was certainly a spectacular car the day Jim Richards drove it at Oran Park...

Everyone was so surprised when he took the Sports Sedan lap record.

#7914 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 23:27

That Eh had a long history Harrop ran it in the 6 cylinder series at Calder ... then it had a holden F5000 motor. It then went to Wayne Mahnken who ran it with a turbo 6 cylinder. Anybody know any more of the cars history and if it still exists.

I believe it is still around in turbo 6 form. Stewie Douglas has or had it and it was raced regularly once a year at Sandown for quite a period. Evidently he lives over the back fence of the Sandown track.
That would be an ideal Group U car either in Harrop form or in Mahnken black.
It was actually quite a simple car but proved to be very quick against more exotic equipment.
I believe that Stewies son is Taz Douglas.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 08 June 2013 - 23:29.


#7915 Ellis French

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 01:06

I believe it is still around in turbo 6 form. Stewie Douglas has or had it and it was raced regularly once a year at Sandown for quite a period. Evidently he lives over the back fence of the Sandown track.
That would be an ideal Group U car either in Harrop form or in Mahnken black.
It was actually quite a simple car but proved to be very quick against more exotic equipment.
I believe that Stewies son is Taz Douglas.




The engine is still at Manks or was last year
Car still alive

#7916 gray chandler

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:05

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'' AH! what the hell'' here's another. And another !!!!!!!!!!!!



#7917 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:55

The engine is still at Manks or was last year
Car still alive

I feel Stewie probably acquired it less engine as Ken Leigh was doing them in the 90s.
It was quite fast at times but not very consistent.

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#7918 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:59

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Alright Gray who is behind the EH? I see George Carter in the A30 and I feel Lui lurking against the fence in the Anglia.. Who are the rest?
A bit before my time in Sports Sedans, late 70s.

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#7919 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:12

Watching an interview on TV this afternoon with Kevan Stoopman. He said that his grandfather, Lou Stoopman raced Sports Sedans until he was 82. That will put him as one of the oldest drivers in the country.
I raced against him in the old BMW2002 when I first started in Sports Sedans and I feel he was still racing up until I quit in 2000.
There has been a lot of Stoopmans around at various times. I also raced against his son John and I feel sure there was some others too at times.

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#7920 gray chandler

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:32

Alright Gray who is behind the EH? I see George Carter in the A30 and I feel Lui lurking against the fence in the Anglia.. Who are the rest?
A bit before my time in Sports Sedans, late 70s.



Lee,my little grey cells fail me.It was a time when i was spending more time abroad than at home and not up to speed with who was driving what. Perhaps Kaydee or John Bassett can help. cheers.

#7921 launchpad

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:33

Great photos Launchpad.

The photo of Jochen Rindt taking the chequered flag was used in period press correct? 1969 Australian Motor Racing Annual.

Stephen


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Here is a photo of Graham Hill at Lakeside 1969 for the Tasman Series. I havent posted much here lately as I've been posting on my Facebook (Rod Mackenzie Collection) page.

#7922 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 13:13

Obviously taken early in the peace...

What part of the circuit is that?

#7923 launchpad

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 13:46

Obviously taken early in the peace...

What part of the circuit is that?


Taken at the Eastern Loop at the top of the circuit. Yes, before the wing "fell off".

#7924 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:44

So that's just entering the Loop?

And Graham's taking an outside pass on someone?

#7925 launchpad

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:08

So that's just entering the Loop?

And Graham's taking an outside pass on someone?

Yes Ray this is just into the loop. Perhaps this additional shot is similar to others and seen more often. He was pretty serious about getting a good time.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 23:57

Rod, another couple of great photos. Thanks for sharing.

We look back at those wings and wonder what were they thinking. But that's development.

For us non-Facebook type, can you please give us a direct link to them on Facebook. I have seen it setup else where, for those not signed on to Facebook, to be able to still view photos. But I haven't a clue what the trick is.

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#7927 Paul Hamilton

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 00:30

We look back at those wings and wonder what were they thinking. But that's development.

Stephen


I think Chapman's thinking was really pretty spot on and more recent development would most likely have followed that direction if not seriously constrained by regulatory controls. I suspect that the likes of Adrian Newey would just love to be able to get the wings up high away from other aerodynamic influences and to then apply the resultant downforce direct to the wheels rather than via the sprung part of the car. Chapman did, of course, attempt to follow through with the principle of applying downforce more directly to the wheels in the Lotus 88 but was again frustrated by the regulations.

#7928 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 00:47

And he was, of course, following on from the very successful Chaparral method...

Something must have been lost in the translation to British Engineering, however.

#7929 launchpad

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:48

Rod, another couple of great photos. Thanks for sharing.

We look back at those wings and wonder what were they thinking. But that's development.

For us non-Facebook type, can you please give us a direct link to them on Facebook. I have seen it setup else where, for those not signed on to Facebook, to be able to still view photos. But I haven't a clue what the trick is.

Stephen


Hi Stephen, Try this link, it should get you to my photo page. http://www.facebook....1479882/photos/
You may have to post the link into your browser.
Cheers,
Rod

#7930 cooper997

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:30

Thanks Rod, I've tried the link and it wants me to sign in.

Stephen

#7931 launchpad

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:00

Thanks Rod, I've tried the link and it wants me to sign in.

Stephen

Looks like I need to ask someone who really knows how to do it!
You could always join Facebook?
I'll see if I can find the secret.

Cheers
Rod

#7932 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:19

I don't play with Facebook either...

I'm just not interested.

#7933 Dick Willis

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:44

You should join Ray, then you would get all these people wanting to be your "friends"

#7934 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:20

Bookface and Twatter. The bane of the civilised world.
I get requests all the time to be on it. Most from people I hardly know!

#7935 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:18

I get enough from people I know, then there's people I don't know at all...

Nothing from Twitter, but Linked In as well. I once made the mistake of joining Facebook because someone felt it was the only way they could send me a photo. What a mistake!

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:20

I get enough from people I know, then there's people I don't know at all...

Nothing from Twitter, but Linked In as well. I once made the mistake of joining Facebook because someone felt it was the only way they could send me a photo. What a mistake!



I avoid all these egosites like the plague. They exist to make the founders/operators rich by any means.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:12

Watching an interview on TV this afternoon with Kevan Stoopman. He said that his grandfather, Lou Stoopman raced Sports Sedans until he was 82. That will put him as one of the oldest drivers in the country.
I raced against him in the old BMW2002 when I first started in Sports Sedans and I feel he was still racing up until I quit in 2000.
There has been a lot of Stoopmans around at various times. I also raced against his son John and I feel sure there was some others too at times.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:20

Ok I have gone through my programmes now we know its Parramatta PK.
Luckily I have the programme for this event and it is

Parramatta Park NSW
6th october 1952
#5 Bill Murray Alfa Alvis 4200cc
#21 D.A. McLachan Bug Ford 3700cc
and as ray has noted it is "This is the Rotunda Hairpin, just over the hill from Government House, they are aiming to rush down alongside the Main Western Line"
regards terry




One from Terry McGrath...

I will allow him to detail everything, but I think he has some questions about it. A nice pic, I think:

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 10:30

Best place perhaps for the 24 July 2013 Peter Windsor blog/feature 'Australian Interlude' to be made known. A few great photos shown, Kevin Bartlett & the odd Mildren car he got to play with, amongst others. Complete with Peter's memories...
http://peterwindsor.com/

Stephen

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:19

I found this on a tape I discovered at the back of a cupboard. Amaroo highlights - 1976.

It includes a short clip of the F5000s in a demonstration race. I think there was a bit more but I've taped over it somewhere along the timeline - sorry.

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

In the first clip Graham Engel runs wide into some water! I did the same thing and as soon as it happened I noticed a terrible stench... turned out to be the overflow from the toilets.

Edited by Wirra, 29 July 2013 - 06:21.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:08

I don't play with Facebook either...
I'm just not interested.





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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:22

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Is she from Kew in Melbourne?

the suburb of iPhones,screaming kids,4x4s,cheap sunnies and middle class bogan woman?

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:44

[quote name='Wirra' date='Jul 29 2013, 12:19' post='6373973']
I found this on a tape I discovered at the back of a cupboard. Amaroo highlights - 1976.

It includes a short clip of the F5000s in a demonstration race.

It wasn't a demo race let me tell you. The boys were fair dinkum. If I recall correctly we did Three races that weekend. Should be a report somewhere. Fairly busy place in an F5000 :)


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:03

I found this on a tape I discovered at the back of a cupboard. Amaroo highlights - 1976.

It includes a short clip of the F5000s in a demonstration race. I think there was a bit more but I've taped over it somewhere along the timeline - sorry.

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

In the first clip Graham Engel runs wide into some water! I did the same thing and as soon as it happened I noticed a terrible stench... turned out to be the overflow from the toilets.

That is a fantastic collection! :wave: Thanks for sharing it with us.

It wasn't a demo race let me tell you. The boys were fair dinkum. If I recall correctly we did Three races that weekend. Should be a report somewhere. Fairly busy place in an F5000 :)

It was a busy place in most cars but a F5000, I couldn't imagine how busy you must have been.... Were you going in a straight line at any point?

#7945 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:10

While it was all pretty fair dinkum, there was a 'game play' going on that day...

As it was explained to me (by Graeme Lawrence, as I recall) the deal was that the order over the hill from the start would be the finishing order. Between the first and last laps, however, if you put your nose in alongside someone they would give way and let you past.

It was very spectacular, everyone was trying pretty hard.

#7946 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:37

Some very good clips there. The Tourer accident ended up as a cartoon by Stonie with Gricey getting a bent front and rear car from Harry!
That HDT Sports Sedan was a loose thing. And Pete was driving very straight for a change.
Amaroo should be good place to practice in a 5000, if you can keep it straight there you should have no problems anywhere else.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 21:52

Some very good clips there. The Tourer accident ended up as a cartoon by Stonie with Gricey getting a bent front and rear car from Harry!
That HDT Sports Sedan was a loose thing. And Pete was driving very straight for a change.
Amaroo should be good place to practice in a 5000, if you can keep it straight there you should have no problems anywhere else.

Stars of the clip have got to be the flaggies and firecrew.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 22:09

Stars of the clip have got to be the flaggies and firecrew.

Great footage. I'm just having great trouble coming to grips that it's almost 40 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 22:35

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 00:30

Stars of the clip have got to be the flaggies and firecrew.


I was worried that the Flaggie first on scene at the Anglebox could have got a face full of retardant from the two Firies that arrived later :|