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#9051 seldo

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 00:15

I think my first meeting there was in 66, it was Energol for a long time before it became BP. Robin Orlando was just going out of use then but it sounded better than Suttons, and I went to too many Mutterbike meetings so the Dog leg will always be the Flip Flop. Sorry Danny I was too lazy to walk that far. Yes Ray they were Friday practice days.
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I think my first meeting there was also '66 and the circuit was : Straight, CC (Tyres), Esses, Robin Orlando, The (Shell?) Dogleg, and Energol, and over the years Energol became BP, Orlando became Suttons, I think a Honda slipped in there somewhere too maybe, or was that Amaroo?

Edited by seldo, 02 January 2015 - 00:16.


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#9052 rasimmo

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 00:40

Of course all this was back in the fun days when the hot mix did not extend to the wall. Must have been a hoot when you put a wheel off the edge.

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#9053 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 00:40

CC became Torana... or Holden...

Honda was the left-hander through the cutting at Amaroo. One of your favourites.

Richard, as far as I know (and remember, I never went there until the new section was built, there were no barriers around the original. Certainly not concrete walls.




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Edited by Ray Bell, 02 January 2015 - 00:40.


#9054 GMACKIE

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 00:42

Found on the http://www.notaengineering.com web site.

 

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Nice find :up: . The 'old' track, inside the 'new' track, is [fortunately   ;)  ] just how I remember it.

 



#9055 GreenMachine

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:32

It is a pity this discussion is not on an OP thread, either a new one, or one of the existing ones ...   ;)



#9056 RW7

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:22

It is a pity this discussion is not on an OP thread, either a new one, or one of the existing ones ...   ;)

 

Is there a way of shifting it?



#9057 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:24

Check out this 1957 advert., Lee :-

 

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I did not actually ever 'hit' that wall.....although am guilty of rubbing some paint off. :blush: 'White-wall' tyres were a dead giveaway.  ;)

White walls is hitting it,, just not as hard as some.



#9058 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:26

Is there a way of shifting it?

The thread or the wall?   Someone beat you too that.

And this is Aussie motor racing,,, Oran Pk is Aussie motor racing so is covered 100% by this thread!



#9059 Wirra

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:51

I attended Oran Park from the very first meeting and my seemingly unreliable memory recalls KB in the Lynx and someone in a Lotus 7, or Super 7, being the stars of the first meeting. I wonder if someone could ask Brian Lawler what that corner was called on day one.

 

Anyway to address my apparent faux pas here are a few scratchy Capri pics to bring the thread back onto the topic.

 

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#9060 DanTra2858

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:35

Yes there was no barriers, if my failing memory is correct Robin Orlando only a wood fence then a 2 meter gap to a wire Spectator fence, the good old days.

Edited by DanTra2858, 04 January 2015 - 04:49.


#9061 Ray Bell

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 10:12

Maybe a 3-metre gap, but essentially your memory cells are holding together...

The timber fence would have been as required by the Speedways Act of 1957, of course.

#9062 MKI220

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 00:34

Not sure of the year of this photo but it would of been pretty early on.

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Here is "Energol" in 1964 I believe.

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Edited by MKI220, 08 January 2015 - 00:35.


#9063 RW7

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 03:58

Not sure of the year of this photo but it would of been pretty early on.

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Here is "Energol" in 1964 I believe.

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Interesting bit of oversteer!



#9064 GMACKIE

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 04:52

Looks like the original main staight, before the 'Energol' extension.

 

2nd photo could be Brian Lawler in his 190 SL Mercedes-Benz, having a bit of fun.  ;)



#9065 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 11:36

Originally posted by GMACKIE
Looks like the original main staight, before the 'Energol' extension.....


No, that would be the first or second meeting with the new main straight, Greg...

The original main straight wasn't built up.

Edited by Ray Bell, 08 January 2015 - 11:37.


#9066 MKI220

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 21:28

Another early one, I am assuming OP but it is virtually unrecognisable to me.

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#9067 RW7

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 21:32

Another early one, I am assuming OP but it is virtually unrecognisable to me.

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Aiya! Was there anything between the track and that tree?



#9068 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 22:18

That's it!

That's the original swing onto the straight out of the dogleg, which wasn't really a 'dogleg' at that stage...

That tree is the one that was on the left as you went down into BP. The one Gricey hit. Here's a larger version:

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#9069 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 22:23

Just for clarity's sake, here's an enlargement of that first lap photo:

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#9070 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 00:07

Greg hi, Not Brian Lawler, it is David Miller who was the RACE STARTER at Oran Park. I emailed David and this is his reply "That's me practicing my 3 point turns"     David bought the Benz new and still has it now.



#9071 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 03:36

Aiya! Was there anything between the track and that tree?

Dirt and grass by the look. Avoid that obstacle in off track excursions!



#9072 GMACKIE

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:05

Greg hi, Not Brian Lawler, it is David Miller who was the RACE STARTER at Oran Park. I emailed David and this is his reply "That's me practicing my 3 point turns"     David bought the Benz new and still has it now.

Thanks Bob. I remember a sky blue 190 SL, often at Oran Park...was that David's ?



#9073 RW7

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:33

Dirt and grass by the look. Avoid that obstacle in off track excursions!

 

If you could...

 

This could start another thread on changes in circuit safety. What do you think Mr. Moderator?

 

Back in '78 at a private practice outing at Lakeside I had unwisely had a few too many wines the night before. What the hell, I had a mate staying with me and it was just a test session...

 

I went too deep into Hungry and decided that going straight ahead was better than smacking the bank that was there on the exit in those days.

 

Once I hit the grass I was the proverbial passenger until I hit a communication pole - fortunately only taking out one corner.

 

Said pole had no wires on it and was removed about a year later...



#9074 The Chasm

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:47

My father was part of the band of PMG technicians who put together the first communications system around the Lakeside circuit using poles, wire, telephones and parts that were "surplus" to the needs of the PMG Department.

 

Maybe surplus is the wrong word, but who cares now, they made it work. My Dad then became a flaggie, grid marshal, then Starter for many years at Lakeside. Sadly his memory has gone and communication is difficult. As he keeps telling me - getting old is a bugger.

 

I clearly remember the presentations of the Kaiser Stuhl "Man of the Meeting" - RW7 !!!.



#9075 RW7

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 10:37

My father was part of the band of PMG technicians who put together the first communications system around the Lakeside circuit using poles, wire, telephones and parts that were "surplus" to the needs of the PMG Department.

 

Maybe surplus is the wrong word, but who cares now, they made it work. My Dad then became a flaggie, grid marshal, then Starter for many years at Lakeside. Sadly his memory has gone and communication is difficult. As he keeps telling me - getting old is a bugger.

 

I clearly remember the presentations of the Kaiser Stuhl "Man of the Meeting" - RW7 !!!.

 

G'day Chasm. Thanks for remembering my best years.

 

Getting old IS a bugger but as long as we retain our physical abilities ,God and CAMS will still allow us to race...



#9076 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 21:31

The stars of the Oran Park Inaugural Meeting Feb 1962 were Leo Geoghegan Lotus 20, Ian Geoghegan Super 7, Guy Buckingham, Les & Sid Howard in Notas,  KB Lynx BMC, Dr. R Tull Ausca, H Cape Lotus FJ

The first race was won by Les Howard in a Nota BMC and second was B Collerson in a Cooper Minx.



#9077 king_crud

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 22:18

I know a lot of people might not be facebook, and it's not my personal page, but here's a shot of Castlereagh Dragway on the public group "Ye Olde Pictorial"

 

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#9078 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 05:23

#9077     Castlereagh drags. Chev is Kevin Garvin  and the Falcon is Joe Polito



#9079 gouldo

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 08:13

The stars of the Oran Park Inaugural Meeting Feb 1962 were Leo Geoghegan Lotus 20, Ian Geoghegan Super 7, Guy Buckingham, Les & Sid Howard in Notas,  KB Lynx BMC, Dr. R Tull Ausca, H Cape Lotus FJ
The first race was won by Les Howard in a Nota BMC and second was B Collerson in a Cooper Minx.


Do you by any chance have a copy of the program?

Dads old nota, which was one of the factory nota sportsmans, was first raced in 62 at Oran park by Brian Rawlings of Bulant fame. Brian was an employee of nota at the time I believe. I would love to have a copy of the program to put in dads collection.

Thanks.

Brad

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#9080 Patrick Fletcher

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 09:23

Brad,

I have sent you a nota'tion about chassis numbers via private message - some of this stuff about NOTA's is very private and unless you know the handshake.



#9081 king_crud

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 19:48

some more from the Ye Olde Pictorial facebook group, about Oran Park

 

 

Oran Park Raceway was a motor racing circuit at Narellan in southwestern Sydney, New South Wales, Australia which was operational from February 1962 until its closure in January 2010.

History

The circuit was established by the Singer Car Club, with its opening meeting held on the weekend of 17–18 February 1962.A motorcycle race meeting was held on 17 February 1963, with reigning Grand Prix Champion Jim Redman being the star attraction. Redman won nearly every class and set the lap record of 50.4 seconds, only 0.8 seconds slower than Frank Matich's outright time set in a 2.6 litre Lotus Sports Car.

The original lap distance of 1.0 miles (1.6 km) was later extended to 1.21 miles (1.9 km) with a further extension in 1974 creating an alternative “Grand Prix” circuit of 1.63 miles (2.62 km) in length.The Grand Prix circuit featured a figure-eight shape with a bridge where the track crossed over itself. Despite the loop the racing direction was still regarded as being anticlockwise.

The complex also had a motocross track, a skidpan, a dirt track and four wheel drive course and a 1000 foot drag strip. Most of the circuit was visible from the main grandstand or the grassed banks surrounding the track.

Oran Park was used regularly for rounds of the Australian Touring Car Championship, V8 Supercar Championship Series, Australian Drivers' Championship and Australian Sports Sedan Championship. The Australian Grand Prix was held at Oran Park in 1974 and 1977. In the 1970s the circuit attracted large crowds for the popular Toby Lee Series, initially run for Series Production Touring Cars and later for Sports Sedans. The inaugural Rothmans 500 for Touring Cars was staged in 1977 but the 1978 event was to be the second and last running of this endurance race. Shorter touring car endurance races would continue to be held at Oran Park during the 1980s and apart from the Sandown and Bathurst classics would last the longest before fading interest caused the compression of the endurance season to just those two events. The final such Oran Park enduro would be the 1989 Pepsi 300 won by Andrew Miedecke and Andrew Bagnall driving a Ford Sierra RS500. The final V8 Supercar round was held in December 2008, won by Garth Tander.

The land on which the racetrack was located was sold to the Government of New South Wales for a new housing development. This led to the eventual closure of the track and ended 48 years of motorsport heritage at the facility. The last motorcycle race meeting, the BelRay 6 Hour, was held on 21–22 November 2009. The final race meeting was scheduled for 23–24 January 2010 but was cancelled due to a lack of entries. This meant that the Independent Race Series event on 16 January 2010 was in fact the last race meeting to be held at the circuit. The circuit continued to run open track days, where the public could drive road cars and motorbikes around the full circuit. The last ever day before the track closed for good was Monday 25 January 2010.

 

 

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There are a few photos here:

 

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#9082 275 GTB-4

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 22:15

Adding a  belated Thank You to the Singer CC and CC Tyres :up:



#9083 BUCKLECOUPE

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 03:44

Answer to #9079 .   Hi Gouldo.  I sold  a copy before Xmas, only one I have now is 1/7/1962.  By then Rawlings was entered in the Bulant  918cc.. Few Notas entered.

Bob