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#1401 Terry Walker

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 13:14

Bascially the Monaro was a two-door coupe adaption of the ordinary Holden four-door saloon, and the styling was GM-generic. Like the 1960 FB Holden was a tiny, squished up version of the 57 chev, and very similar to the Vauxhall of the time, but they were all different cars. The World Car concept hadn't arrived yet.

The later HQ series Monaro from the 70s was a two-door version of the 4-door, again; and the latest Monaro was again a 2-door coupe edition of the then Holden Commodore platform. I'm still fond of the 70s HQ Monaro in terms of style. They got it just right.

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#1402 Stan Patterson

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 13:41

Please Clarify,

Is this thread about ''Personal Photos of Australian Motor Racing" or is it about how the multi-nationals and their corrupt lackeys in the media reduced a once-proud motor racing heritage to touring car racing dominated laughing stock?

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#1403 David Shaw

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 21:14

Sometimes it's about filling in some bits and pieces to help keep this thread close to the front page so it's easier to find when those generous souls give us another fantastic glimpse of days long gone. :)

#1404 ken devine

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 22:49

Of course the Monaro is now exported to the US as a Pontiac GTO.more great pics coming soon.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:33

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4
So who owned the Mini and the handsome two vehicle in the background?? :)

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Assuming this to be a serious question, and not a sly reference to the perhaps overkill discussion of Minis in prior posts, I advise that the Mini is the Ross and Mal Bennett lightweight, which I think was previously the ex Doug Mould car. In the 70's it, like most, received a clubman front cut. I personally think the original "bullnose" always looked best.

The 1800 is Ross's. He had it for many years and it went everywhere including several trips to the East towing his motorkhana special to compete at nationals.

Despite the ridicule they got from most (probably due to poor maintenance from mechanics who just don't understand anything if it doesn't have a Ford or Holden badge) they were great cars. I had one as (a sedan) my first car which I bought for $20 in 1978, overhauled the engine and mechanicals and used daily over the next 10 years completing around 100,000 miles without hardly ever putting a spanner to it apart from scheduled maintenance and normal consumables (brake pads etc). It was not the most exciting machine, but it was extremely comfortable (the most comfortable car I have ever driven including many Euro exec machines) reliable and safe transport. Whilst noting it not to be an excitment machine, in my mis-spent youth I could leave all my mates in their Aussie 6's in my dust on any reasonably twisty bit of road... the handling was much better than reputation suggests. I sold it in 1989 for $2000 and have regretted it ever since.

#1406 haggis

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 05:31

The Bennett Mini in this pic isn't their original one they raced though (ex Doug Mould?) as they wrote that shell off. This is their re shelled car.

#1407 275 GTB-4

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:05

Originally posted by Haggis 2


Assuming this to be a serious question, and not a sly reference to the perhaps overkill discussion of Minis in prior posts, I advise that the Mini is the Ross and Mal Bennett lightweight, which I think was previously the ex Doug Mould car. In the 70's it, like most, received a clubman front cut. I personally think the original "bullnose" always looked best.

The 1800 is Ross's. He had it for many years and it went everywhere including several trips to the East towing his motorkhana special to compete at nationals.

Despite the ridicule they got from most (probably due to poor maintenance from mechanics who just don't understand anything if it doesn't have a Ford or Holden badge) they were great cars. I had one as (a sedan) my first car which I bought for $20 in 1978, overhauled the engine and mechanicals and used daily over the next 10 years completing around 100,000 miles without hardly ever putting a spanner to it apart from scheduled maintenance and normal consumables (brake pads etc). It was not the most exciting machine, but it was extremely comfortable (the most comfortable car I have ever driven including many Euro exec machines) reliable and safe transport. Whilst noting it not to be an excitment machine, in my mis-spent youth I could leave all my mates in their Aussie 6's in my dust on any reasonably twisty bit of road... the handling was much better than reputation suggests. I sold it in 1989 for $2000 and have regretted it ever since.


Thanks Haggistew...no sly reference at all...I have always had an interest in things East-West :smoking:

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:21

People seem to be getting a bit toey waiting for more photos, so here's a shot from an early Amaroo historic to keep things going. I know it's outside the time zone of this thread, but only be a couple of years. I haven't seen this Hudson (or maybe Terraplane) special in quite a while

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:53

Last time I saw it was two years ago, in the motor racing museum at Bathurst, looking a little worse for wear. Could be current owner John Herman at the wheel in the photo.

The car was actually built in 1949 in Murrumburrah by a youthful Ron Reid with some local assistance from Stan Carpenter, hence raced initially as the Carpenter Terraplane. It was Ron's honeymoon car. Ron's wife Gwen told me that she could just about hear Ron leaving Murrumburrah on his way out to Nubba in their courting days -- until Ron stuck it on its side over Skyline at Bathurst, flames from the carburettors removing the righthand side of Ron's mustache. He raced it for several more years, later Harry Cape appeared with it in a Warwick Farm historic race, then George Gilltrap had it, ultimately to John Herman

#1410 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:13

A good and kind friend gifted me a copy of the magazine CARS. September 1954.

In it is an article entitled, "MOTOR SPORTS "BOOM" IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA. It starts,

"With Harry Neale at the wheel, the double Ford Special raced down the course at South Australia's Sellick's Beach. Before the crowd could realise what was happening, the Ford was out of control and with a mighty splash charged into the sea. Such was the force of the water that the body was ripped off the chassis, leaving Harry sitting on the chassis, unhurt, but very wet."

What an image these words conjure up. Sadly no photo of the event. However, above this was the photo you can see below with caption "Eldred D. Norman in his double-engine Ford Special".

There are some equally lovely pictures that I will also post. Some from before 1950, but they were published in the era of this thread.

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#1411 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:18

"Steve Tillet takes a curve at Collingrove." Not sure of year.

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#1412 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:20

"Lobethal, 1946: Riley Brooklands, Bresca Bugatti and MG TA."

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#1413 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:25

"T. Hawkes, Allard and Eldred Norman, Maserati, at Sellick's."

Not sure of the year. Look at the front wheels on that Allard.

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#1414 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:27

"Tony Gaze in HRG, Woodside, 1939."

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:29

"Tony Ohlmyer crashes in 1939, Lobethal."

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#1416 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:35

Last, but not least, two pictures from the R.D.A. Trial of 1953.

The article gives a nice summary of the early racing endeavours in SA. Sorry these are not personal photos. But I had never seen this magazine before let alone such a nice photo of the Norman Double V-8 and thought a few others might be in the same boat.

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#1417 David Shaw

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:50

Thanks Anthony, fantastic photos.

#1418 David McKinney

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:12

Evocative indeed :up:
I suspect the Gaze HRG shot is 1949 rather than 1939
And was there a Lobethal meeting in 1946?

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 16:47

:clap: Great pictures, many thanks! :up:

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#1420 ken devine

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:19

They are great pictures Anthony particularly the one of the Double V8 as we know the car eventualy was
broken ap in WA and i put up some pics of it last year,about 2 years ago i bought an AMS with the car
pictured on the cover running at Sellicks Beach but not much details of the event.The HRGi think would be
the one that Stan Jones had then was bought to WA about 1961 by Dave Gordon it was also broken up.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:50

This is an excellent array of Sportscars taken by Lyn Taylor at a closed meeting in 1958,the did not want
to spoil their paintwork with numbers.


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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:22

I took this pic of the Hudson in the Bathurst Museum last April.It looks pretty good.


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#1423 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:30

Originally posted by ken devine
They are great pictures Anthony particularly the one of the Double V8 as we know the car eventualy was
broken ap in WA and i put up some pics of it last year,about 2 years ago i bought an AMS with the car
pictured on the cover running at Sellicks Beach but not much details of the event.The HRGi think would be
the one that Stan Jones had then was bought to WA about 1961 by Dave Gordon it was also broken up.


Ken,
Any chance you can give me a hint where the pics are you posted? I have had a search, but have failed to find them. Were they posted in this thread?

David,
I can vouch for the accuracy of the dates as printed in the magazine, but not for their actual accuracy. I am sure someone with more knowledge than me will be able to give further information.

#1424 David McKinney

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:55

Originally posted by ken devine
The HRGi think would be the one that Stan Jones had then was bought to WA about 1961 by Dave Gordon it was also broken up.

I'm pretty sure the Jones HRG was a 'Bathurst'-type single-seater rather than the 'Woodside' two-seater in the photo

#1425 Terry Walker

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 07:03

I knew I had these somewhere: the first Macarthur Park motorcycle race meeting, in an undeveloped suburb of Canberra, in the 1970s. I think meetings were held twoor three times, and then the houses started getting built and it was all over.

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#1426 ken devine

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 07:28

Anthony a pic of the DoubleV8 in its final body form is in thread 1220 page 31 taken in 1956 possibly one of its last races.Also thread 1075 page 27 with Syd Anderson on the start line at Narrogin.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 08:03

Great find, Terry, I think that meeting ran only twice, one year it was won by Murray Ogilvie on a TZ350 Yamaha. I suspect the #2 Total Hunter Suzuki is ridden by Stu Avant, although Steve Trinder rode for this team with success as well around this time.

#1428 275 GTB-4

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 08:05

Originally posted by Terry Walker
I knew I had these somewhere: the first Macarthur Park motorcycle race meeting, in an undeveloped suburb of Canberra, in the 1970s. I think meetings were held two or three times, and then the houses started getting built and it was all over.


Not to mention an International Rally with Ari Vatenan et al Terry...terrific shots...any more?? :)

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:20

Whose line was it about six degrees of separation?

Ron Reid, builder and racer of the Carpenter Terraplane pictured above had 4 sons - Jock, Bill, Mal, and David, and all but Jock raced cars. A lifelong friend of Mal's, Graham Hawker all regard as the 5th son. He also raced. Mal and Graham both lived right on the circuit at Macarthur Park, just up the hill from Terry's pics.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:56

Originally posted by ken devine
This is an excellent array of Sportscars taken by Lyn Taylor at a closed meeting in 1958,the did not want
to spoil their paintwork with numbers.


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Ken,
The TR2 [behind the green Healy] with the extreme front cutaway is possibly Bob Weavers. Bob is the owner / builder of the "Amijarer" ? coupe and the almost perpetrator of the worst disaster in Aus. motor racing.
He became the owner of the '52 Ferrari type 500 ex Gaze. Davison. Doug Green... He removed the body intending to build it into a sports coupe. Someone's common sense prevailed and it was rescued, eventually going to the Donington Museum.

To be fair to Bob the Ferrari was almost worthless at the time. See page 146 of John Blanden's 'Historic Racing Cars In Australia".

#1431 Terry Walker

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:27

A few more from Macarthur Park

The cars didn't race, did a few demo laps. Possibly there was the hope that the Historics could have a real run at some furure meeting.

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#1432 David Shaw

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 14:02

Originally posted by David McKinney

I'm pretty sure the Jones HRG was a 'Bathurst'-type single-seater rather than the 'Woodside' two-seater in the photo


With the help of Blanden's Historic Racing Cars in Australia Vol 2 , the Streamliner that Tony Gaze brought out, chassis W79. This was debuted at Lobethal on January 1st 1948 and was later adapted to a 'Woodside' body and its first race as such was at the Woodside circuit exactly a year later.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 16:57

Originally posted by David Shaw
With the help of Blanden's [I]Historic Racing Cars in Australia Vol 2
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As Vol 1 is no longer available, is Vol 2 an expanded/updated-to-1970-version or a separate additional volume supporting Vol 1?
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#1434 David McKinney

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 18:03

I'm fairly sure the later edition dropped a lot of earlier material. I'm relying on memory though, as my original went missing somewhere between New Zealand and here :down:
If you've got No.1, you'll need No.2 as well, as it does update earlier entries and also covers more modern cars

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 19:09

Originally posted by David McKinney
Evocative indeed :up:
I suspect the Gaze HRG shot is 1949 rather than 1939
And was there a Lobethal meeting in 1946?


As someone has already pointed out, you're right that it's post-war... and 1948 was the only post-war meeting...

The 'Woodside' HRG was named after Woodside, the circuit just down the road from Lobethal, which only ran post-war.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 20:25

The Gaze HRG was, in time, in the hands of two brothers from Sydney, Neil and Eddie Senior, who raced it at Bathurst and Mount Druitt. It then lay idle for many decades at 1 Myrtle Street Chippendale when owned by Athan Pangas, from whose estate a son of one of the Senior brothers bought it quite recently. He showed me pics recently, and said restoration was about to begin

The two cars shown at Macarthur Park are Stuart Saunders' Bugatti T35 and John McDonald in the mighty Tornado with Corvette power

And I recall some TV coverage of a rally event around Macarthur Park, Colin Bond/John Dawson Damer in a yellow/red Ford Escort seriously three wheeling through some of the swervery. I only learned yesrs later that the piece of road was Macarthur Park, when Graham Hawker said to me" Yes, I watched it all sitting on that big rock over there, just before I built the house here"

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 20:43

And as 275 mentioned, there is footage of Ari Vatanen going nuts in an Escort round there, his co-driver being Prodrive's David Richards, perhaps in the pre-bristle beard days....

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 22:31

This could well be Mal Reid in the Monoskate, built by George Reed - inverted model A rails, flathead V8 with the works.


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#1439 Anthony Harradine

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 23:06

Originally posted by john medley
The Gaze HRG was, in time, in the hands of two brothers from Sydney, Neil and Eddie Senior, who raced it at Bathurst and Mount Druitt. It then lay idle for many decades at 1 Myrtle Street Chippendale when owned by Athan Pangas, from whose estate a son of one of the Senior brothers bought it quite recently. He showed me pics recently, and said restoration was about to begin


So this is a different car to the one that Ken said was broken up in WA - who bought that one out? Might the new owners be keen to post a couple of photos John? How exciting for them, being able to locate the car your Dad once had. Also ultimately for us too.

I have been searching for my fathers 1936 Buick (stock road car), sold in 1966 in excellent condition, for many years without success. Boys and their Dads!

So glad I posted that pic.

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#1440 ken devine

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 07:09

John the TR2 with cutaway guards at the time the photo was taken my have belonged to Ian Mcdonald
who was visiting from the East.Bob Weaver bought it later and tidied it up and painted it grey David Rockford
the bought it after and raced it for awhile before buying the Repco Alta in 1963.I had a photo of it racing at
Bunbury in 63 but iloaned it to somebody and it got lost.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:38

Originally posted by GD66
And as 275 mentioned, there is footage of Ari Vatanen going nuts in an Escort round there, his co-driver being Prodrive's David Richards, perhaps in the pre-bristle beard days....


Yep..sans beard and quite animated on an adrenelin buzz (no doubt)...the filum is titled "40 split seconds" which was the winning margin....I feel very priveledged to own a copy :smoking: :up:

#1442 275 GTB-4

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:41

Originally posted by Terry Walker
A few more from Macarthur Park

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Thank you very much Terry...marvelous stuff...Stewart in his element...but, gasp!! check out the waist and the flares on the young lady (I hope it is a young lady :rotfl: )

#1443 Terry Walker

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:49

You shoulda seen the flares I was wearing...

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 03:15

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not just the flares - what about the shirtless guy in the jeans and ugg-boots next to her?

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 03:54

Sign of the times .. :lol:

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 04:48

Don Hall bought the Ausper in 1965 after it was imported to Australia by Laurie Whitehead it was very
succesful in Don's hands in 1966 it won the WA Statechampionship with the Twincam motor from his Elan,
Speaking to Don yesterday he told me he built the motor himself as the Elan came without an engine it
went to Stan Starcevich,he still has the engine he built,Don sold the Ausper to Bob Webb in 1968and it was taken
to Queensland and to Dons knowledge has not been since.has any body have any information on it?



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#1447 David Shaw

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:09

Photos and history of the Ausper Formula Juniors here: http://www.formulaju...LIST/ausper.htm

The Don Hall car was chassis T202.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:26

Thanks David but that does not tell us where the car is now.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 06:30

Sorry, I had one foot out the door when I posted that link, but I had been looking at that site on Sunday so I was able to quickly link to it.

It does say this at the bottom:
T2, THE WHITEHEAD CAR. T202.

1960. Sold new to Laurie Whitehead, Australia imported and widely raced by him in Australia until 1962.
1963. Sold to Max Paterson, Victoria raced as 1100 FJ. & 1500
1965, Sold to Don Hall, West Australia, fitted with twin cam 1500 Ford, and altered tail, raced in WA.
1968, Sold to Bob Webb, Queensland, not raced?
1968? Sold to Ed. Flannery, Victoria,
1998, believed to part restored to FJ, now with new owner


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Posted 22 January 2008 - 06:58

This photo is from the dash of the Dud Dansie BBM of 1958.

I am wondering if anyone can identify (or even take a wild guess at) the type of steering wheel you can see here. Any help in IDing this will be very greatly appreciated.

Also, if you would like to take a guess at the right-most gauge's identity I would be appreciative as well. I think I know what the rest are.


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