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#3751 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 00:10

From the race report we know that Gordon Glynn was in the Nota Din, No 38?

Dieter Kolb had a run in Alan Stewart's Monarch Ford, his name's shown on that, No 32.

Ray Winter's Rennmax should be among those in the pics, I'm sure, Peter Mohr is in the Nota Major.

I think it might be Barry Campbell's TR as a pic in the report looks a lot like that car before it was bent.

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#3752 sandy

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:50

I came across this photo and I don't think I have posted it before. Bill Patterson, Fisherman's Bend, late 1950s.


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#3753 bradbury west

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 12:10

Is that a Humber Super Snipe between the Minor and the VW, or some Ozmobile?
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#3754 David McKinney

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 13:22

Would have said a Humber Hawk, myself...

#3755 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 20:19

I'm no expert, but I'd go with Snipe...

The top rail of the fence is spoiling the line a little.

#3756 maoricar

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 20:39

It's a Snipe....... tail lights are the give-away

#3757 bradbury west

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 21:09

It's a Snipe....... tail lights are the give-away


and the longer, flatter boot lid. Were Humbers reasonably common over there in those days, as they were quite rare beast at the upper end of the market here?
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 21:45

and the longer, flatter boot lid. Were Humbers reasonably common over there in those days, as they were quite rare beast at the upper end of the market here?
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Definitely a Super Snipe, circa 1956. My father was a Humber devotee (God knows why), and I grew up with various Humbers through the '50s and '60s. Reasonably common? Mmm, not really, but certainly not rare.

Speaking of the Scuderia Veloce 250LM, I've got a little anecdote to tell. In 1974 my wife and I bought our first house in Queen St Concord West in Sydney. We arranged a house-warming barbecue/party for a Sunday afternoon, and on that Sunday morning, I woke to see that magnificent car on an open trailer outside our house. I went out to find Bob Atkin cursing some broken welding on the trailer. He was transporting the Ferrari from Lindfield to Penshurst for reasons I don't recall, when the trailer broke on Concord Rd. He pulled into Queen St and happened to stop at my front door. After chatting to me and working out what he could do, he unloaded this magnificent car on the street right outside my house, and he delegated me to watch over it while he took the trailer off to have the welding fixed. I must say it looked magnificent, gleaming scarlet in the sunshine amongst suburbia. I hoped and hoped he would take plenty of time returning, with me taking guard over it while my wife hurried around preparing for the barbie. A pity that Queen St on a Sunday was very quiet, but I had some neighbours and passers-by to supervise. I managed to get a few guests to arrive early, but Bob returned only a few short hours later. The sound of the V12 rasping as he edged it back onto the trailer got a few more onlookers out, but all-too-soon he and the car were gone. I can't believe I don't have a photographic record of it, but - true story.


#3759 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 22:55

I'd agree, Humbers were not rare, but not an everyday sighting either...

Probably more common than Jaguars. As Hillmans sold fairly well here in the fifties, there was a good dealer network, and they acquitted themselves well in the Round Australia trials.

gkennedy... lovely story, but the mists of time have repainted the car on you. Its colour was Torreador Red, which was a red with a pinky-orange component. Photos of Brian Muir's S4 Holden show the colour.

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#3760 sandy

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 23:54

These photos have been in this forum before but have been selected on the basis that the spectators cars might be of interest. Note rhe Box Brownie camera (De Luxe version) in the hand of the spectator who is watching the Maybach 111 go by. Where are the photos he took?
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#3761 Wirra

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 01:05

...Speaking of the Scuderia Veloce 250LM...

I was never sure who drove it on this day.
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#3762 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:52

Looks like Bill Brown...

That was a Catalina meeting that I missed. The only one from the time I first went there, actually. I was competing in a 24-hour slot car race that weekend!

And referring to RCN shows that it was Bill Brown. May '67, if I'm not mistaken, was the meeting.

#3763 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:05

What is that American convertible in the background in pic 3 and 6. In pic 3 I initially thought it was a custom FJ but when I looked harder no way.

#3764 seldo

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:20

What is that American convertible in the background in pic 3 and 6. In pic 3 I initially thought it was a custom FJ but when I looked harder no way.

I think you'll find it's a Buick

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:23

What is that American convertible in the background in pic 3 and 6. In pic 3 I initially thought it was a custom FJ but when I looked harder no way.


1948/50's, Buick Special, 2nd photo shows only 3 port holes on the bonnet (Hood!!) 4 port holes would have made ita 'Roadmaster'...as in the "Rain Man'movie,with Dustin Hoffman/Tom Cruise ...............regards427 :) :) :)

#3766 seldo

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:39

1948/50's, Buick Special, 2nd photo shows only 3 port holes on the bonnet (Hood!!) 4 port holes would have made ita 'Roadmaster'...as in the "Rain Man'movie,with Dustin Hoffman/Tom Cruise ...............regards427 :) :) :)

Agreed. And just to make it a bit more difficult - it seems to be missing its front bumper and grille

#3767 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 13:23

Thanks, I had a feeling it was Buick, and the no front bar etc was what initially gave me the FJ

#3768 lyntonh

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 13:33

These may belong on an Elfin thread, but here they are ...

An Elfin 300 posing at all angles during a spin at Creek Corner, Warwick Farm Practice 6th December 1969

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#3769 gkennedy

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 21:47

gkennedy... lovely story, but the mists of time have repainted the car on you. Its colour was Torreador Red, which was a red with a pinky-orange component. Photos of Brian Muir's S4 Holden show the colour.

You're right, but I don't remember it being as orange as DCR.333. Probably the mists of time, as you say. I do remember that it had just been refurbished/restored, and was 'abs. immac.' after a pretty hard racing career. It had a list of race wins neatly sign-written on the B (C?) pillar - somewhere there, in white lettering, that it never had in its racing days. Do you know where it is now?


#3770 Dale Harvey

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 22:15

These may belong on an Elfin thread, but here they are ...

An Elfin 300 posing at all angles during a spin at Creek Corner, Warwick Farm Practice 6th December 1969

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I think the Efin 300 is driven by Dennis Urhane. The Lotus 23B would be Bob Muir and the other car is the Elfin ME5 of Niel Allen.

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#3771 lyntonh

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 14:12

A mix from Warwick Farm....6th September 1969 first...

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Now 6th December 1969
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Cicada?

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Bernie Haehnle Warwick Farm esses 22nd November 1971

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A borrowed helmet? Warwick Farm 12th December 1970

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#3772 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 20:25

Yes, the Peter Wallace Cicada Ford...

Also seen above it is the Hustler of Tony Oxley and Alex Macarthur, I'm fairly sure, leading a Nota in his Lotus Super Seven. And as the name on the side of the Cortina says, that's Bill Fanning, the Matich SR3 has Don O'Sullivan in charge.

#3773 Allen Brown

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 20:55

Which one's the Cicada Ray? I've never seen a Cicada.

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 22:47


The "leaning tower of Pisa" is the President Car Sales Renault 16TS entry driven by John Smith and Bill Bryden (former speedway solo champion) getting some miles up before the 69 Hardie-Ferodo race .

#3775 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:38

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Which one's the Cicada Ray? I've never seen a Cicada.


I've seen a few, Allen, and all of them were different!

The one here is a sports car, which looks like a rather wide openwheeler with the driver offset to the right and cycle guards front and rear. It's the rear view of it chasing the 23B into Creek Corner:

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#3776 David McKinney

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 11:53

Wasn't there also a BRM-engined single-seater?

I'm trying to remember what it was based on - a Cooper?

#3777 lyntonh

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:38

Warwick Farm 12th July 1969
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#3778 Team Result

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:52

Warwick Farm 12th July 1969
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Well, I remember the Brolga was an Australian kit car - can't remember what the mechanicals were, BMC or Ford?
Though I don't recall ever seeing one racing

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#3779 redgts

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:56

Well, I remember the Brolga was an Australian kit car - can't remember what the mechanicals were, BMC or Ford?
Though I don't recall ever seeing one racing



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#3780 lyntonh

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 13:03

Oran Park 27th June 1971
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John Leffler & Bruce Taylor & Mike Gore?

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Wayne Rogerson & Barry Sharp

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Barry Sharp & Wayne Rogerson

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Typical Mini race

Now some faces to identify, from the parade before the Gold Star race
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Sign on the Ute says the first pair

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Tony Stewart? & Gary Campbell?

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Do you reckon he's got his general competition licence handy?

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#3781 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 21:01

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Jack Bono with the crewcut, probaby Gary Campbell with back to us.

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Tony Stewart, not sure of the nearer driver but there's a few to choose from... Don Uebergang, vern Hamilton etc.

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KB and Gregory

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#3782 2Bob

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 22:11

Wasn't there also a BRM-engined single-seater?

I'm trying to remember what it was based on - a Cooper?



Cicadas were built by Doug Trengrove in the 1960s and 70s. One pictured had Ford 1500 (maybe 1600?) none crossflow engine (built late 1960s I think). BRM engined one built for Don Fraser. I think firstly on a Cooper (or copy) chassis, later in an Elfin 600 (copy?). Doug worked for Elfin at one stage and for ASP for a few years. There were a few Cicadas which looked remarkably like ASPs. (All this from memory and that was never good and getting worse so liable to be pretty unreliable).

#3783 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 23:04

Originally posted by Team Result
Well, I remember the Brolga was an Australian kit car - can't remember what the mechanicals were, BMC or Ford?
Though I don't recall ever seeing one racing.


I think there were two that raced, actually...

This one and another blue one that I have a notion ran once at a Warwick Farm Club meeting on the short circuit. They were built by a bloke who lived around Mona Vale or Avalon, ran Ford 1500 or 1600 engines, very conventional layout.

David Shaw possibly has (or maybe I have too?) a Sports Car World article on them. Not sure whether or not they were sold as kits.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 23:23

The Cicada Ford, at an Oran Park historic a few years ago.

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#3785 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 00:14

'34' being a traditional Trengove number, as I recall...

Certainly Colin ran it on his cars. The '1' shown here is obviously not centred and therefore an addition.

#3786 Wirra

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 03:32

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#3787 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 04:39

Originally posted by Wirra
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Bruce Taylor (ex-Sharp Jaguar-Ford V8 and Bruce Cary (Falcon 6-engined Anglia).

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 05:04

Bruce Taylor (ex-Sharp Jaguar-Ford V8 and Bruce Cary (Falcon 6-engined Anglia).


I suspected my "Mike Gore" caption was dubious...

#3789 lyntonh

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 05:18

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You can see little differences in the cars in the first two photos, so they are from different meetings,
but I reckon the Oran Park shot is during the same race!

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:11

The Cicada Ford, at an Oran Park historic a few years ago.

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What a great looking car - thanks for posting the photos.

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#3791 lyntonh

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:33

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Jack Bono with the crewcut, probaby Gary Campbell with back to us.

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Tony Stewart, not sure of the nearer driver but there's a few to choose from... Don Uebergang, vern Hamilton etc.

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KB and Gregory

Sign on the first ute is wrong.


I can just imagine these guys wanting to worry about being in the correct ute just before they
get in and belt up for the serious part.
These days, several organisation PR types would be hounding them to get it right.

#3792 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:28

What a great looking car - thanks for posting the photos.

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The Cicada looks a good bit neater now than it did in the 'period' photo

#3793 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 12:21

Originally posted by lyntonh
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Possibly Graham Wood in the Clive Osborne Cooper Climax.

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#3794 fredeuce

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:02

Well, I remember the Brolga was an Australian kit car - can't remember what the mechanicals were, BMC or Ford?
Though I don't recall ever seeing one racing


These cars as I understand it were meant to be a low volume sports car and also available in kit form. It was the brainchild of Nick Grace originally from the UK who was previously involved with building Ginetta cars over there.

The Brolga was built around a VW transaxle and Ford 1500/1600 engine.

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#3795 GreenMachine

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 09:01

These cars as I understand it were mean to be a low volume sports car and also available in kit form. It was the brainchild of Nick Grace originally from the UK who was previously involved with building Ginetta cars over there.

The Brolga was built around a VW transaxle and Ford 1500/1600 engine.



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I was browsing the secondhand bookshop in Curtin ACT this afternoon, and flicked through a foolscap-sized colour book about Australian sportscars (whose title escapes me), and the Brolga entry caught my eye - as it would, being one of the nicer looking cars in the book. Anyway, there is a 2-3 page write-up, with a number of photos, including this car (I presume). As I already had an armful, I left it there 'until next time' ...

#3796 Allen Brown

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:59

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Possibly Graham Wood in the Clive Osborne Cooper Climax.

Aha! I just had him as "G Wood". As this picture was captioned above as 6 Dec 1969, I presume it is practice for the following day's Hordern Trophy. Wood qualified 11th for the race but didn't start.

Any of you experts tell what engine is in the back?

And anyone have the entry list for that race?

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#3797 lyntonh

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:16

Oran Park 27th June 1971

Clubman Race first....
Drool, Ray Bell, Drool!!!

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#3798 275 GTB-4

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:56

A mix from Warwick Farm....6th September 1969 first...

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Lyn Brown should be able to identify this one :cool:



#3799 David McKinney

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:32

Any of you experts tell what engine is in the back?


It ran a 1500 FPF earlier in the year and a 2.5 FPF the following year...


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#3800 David Shaw

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:57

Aha! I just had him as "G Wood". As this picture was captioned above as 6 Dec 1969, I presume it is practice for the following day's Hordern Trophy. Wood qualified 11th for the race but didn't start.

Any of you experts tell what engine is in the back?


A look at my site would have confirmed his first name, although it only has "Climax TC" at present, thanks to David McKinney it will be updated soom to an FPF.