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#4351 nivola

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 23:09

Ellis French you are a legend!

So far in all the looking for anything of this beast I have only seen one image. Now all of a sudden there are three more images.

Quality Shots as well!

Thank you

By the way I have also sent you a PM.

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#4352 ellrosso

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 07:32

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Bit of a mixed bag here. Trevallyn Hillclimb shots are possibly Bob Wright in the Jowett Javelin, Jock Walkem's Cooper F3 and Don Gorringe in the Wylie Javelin. Not sure about the MGA but the Porsche I think is Don Elliot.

#4353 SJ Lambert

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 08:57

That car no.33 in third photo above looks like Jolly winning the Tourist Trophy at Longford.

#4354 ellrosso

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:31

Yes James it is Jolly.

#4355 cooper997

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 09:37

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ellrosso,

The #15 Porsche & #14 MGA would likely be from the the 1960 Longford meeting - maybe even the Tourist Trophy race. #15 should be the Sid Sakzewski-owned Tony Basile driven Porsche Carrera. #14 should be Ron Ward's MG A.

The other photo is the start of the 1960 Australian TT at Longford. But shows from the second row of the grid, with the front row having bolted.
#8 Alan Jack's Cooper-Climax bob-tail.
#92 David Finch D Type Jaguar
The head/helmet just visible behind the 'D' is Derek Jolly's in the Lotus 15 (having obviously had a good start).
#46 is Eddie Perkins in the D Calvert Porsche
The 1st headlight just in frame (LH of screen) is Tom Sulman's Aston Martin DB3S (carried #99).
The 2nd headlight should be the Jim Wright DB3S (carried #126).
#10 is Doug Whiteford Maserati 300S.
#16 is John Clearly AH 100S.
The white roof of the 356 should be the Sid Sakzewski-owned Tony Basile driven Porsche Carrera (carried #15)
Those that had bolted and not in frame from the front row are #42 Ron Phillips Cooper-Jaguar (inside of grid), #87 Frank Matich 'D' Type (outside of grid). Also missing from the frame is John Ampt in the Decca (outside of second row).

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#4356 DanTra2858

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 20:46

Wondering what is the History of the David Finch D Type Jaguar & where is it now?

Is the MGA that Ron Ward is driving one of the first Twin Cams MGA to race in Australia?



#4357 cooper997

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 00:08

The Finch D Type was the Bib Stillwell, Jack Davey, Frank Gardner car, I think. The Australian TT meeting at Longford was on March 7, 1960 and by the April 18, 1960 Bathurst Easter meeting it was in the hands of Jack Murray. Which part of the globe it currently resides will require someone else to update.

Someone else will also know when the Ward MG debuted, but it too was entered for the Bathurst Easter 1960 meeting. And for that matter the October 4, 1959 Bathurst.

Stephen

#4358 Wirra

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:02

...Wondering what is the History of the David Finch D Type Jaguar & where is it now?..


'Google' is your friend.

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#4359 DanTra2858

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 06:24

Many thanks to Cooper997 & Wirra for the info on the D Type, is there any info available on the MG A

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#4360 ellrosso

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 00:11

Just heard back from Fred Cherry re the Hillman Minx in the Lou Kingsley Baskerville shot and he reckons it is Wayne Turnbull who was the main Hillman man in the late 50's early 60's - so looks like you were on the money David S. We also have a shot of Wayne in the later shape Minx at the Domain H/climb in the library
which apparently had the earlier hot motor transferred into it.
Cheers, ellrosso

#4361 elansprint72

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 00:44

This really is the most remarkable photo-thread; from the grey, wet and cold UK thanks, once again, for sharing some of your sunshine with us. Keep them coming. :clap:

#4362 cooper997

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 01:16

Many thanks to Cooper997 & Wirra for the info on the D Type, is there any info available on the MG A


DanTra2858,

If you have a look at www.mgaguru.com you might find some information about the Ron Ward MG A twin cam. Also, if you google 'mga twin cam register' there's one in Australia too.

Stephen

#4363 John Ellacott

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:29

The Finch D Type was the Bib Stillwell, Jack Davey, Frank Gardner car, I think. The Australian TT meeting at Longford was on March 7, 1960 and by the April 18, 1960 Bathurst Easter meeting it was in the hands of Jack Murray. Which part of the globe it currently resides will require someone else to update.

Someone else will also know when the Ward MG debuted, but it too was entered for the Bathurst Easter 1960 meeting. And for that matter the October 4, 1959 Bathurst.

Stephen

The Jack Murray D type was a different car - silver in colour.
David Finch retained his car, still white, and drove it at Warwick Farm in 1961.
I had the pleasure of meeting him again after many years at our recent Tasman Revival meeting at Eastern Creek

John

#4364 cooper997

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:01

The Jack Murray D type was a different car - silver in colour.
David Finch retained his car, still white, and drove it at Warwick Farm in 1961.
I had the pleasure of meeting him again after many years at our recent Tasman Revival meeting at Eastern Creek

John


Thanks John, my mistake for reading the 'Competitor Comments' in page 35 of the Easter 1960 Bathurst programme. Mentions the Jack Murray D Type as "... once owned by the late Jack Davey". Or does it mean the Finch car had no Jack Davey connection?

Then this morning I had a look to see if Ron Ward (MGA) was listed in the Easter 1959 Bathurst programme. Only to see both Murray and Finch D Types entered.

Stephen

#4365 ellrosso

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:52

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#4366 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 07:40

Some more fabulous stuff, elrosso!

Just picture Whiteford in the Maserati 300S chasing Lukey in the car that would later that weekend vie for honours in the Australian Grand Prix... wonderful stuff, and the Maser was to fail because it tossed a universal joint at Alec Mildren in the big race.

Matich's Brabham being pushed to the grid, here we have Graham Matich steering and Geoff Smedley looking like he's been seriously at work on it at the rear, no idea who the younger person is. That's 1964, when they put Matich on the grid and told him he was on his own from there. He had to finish the race on 3 cylinders because there was nobody in the pits to put the plug lead back on and Stillwell was getting every closer.

Bill Patterson in a Cooper that was starting to look old in 1964.

The Long Bridge pics must be 1958, are they? Aussie Miller heading Patto's older Cooper, and Lukey (Cooper No 5) leading who?

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#4367 eldougo

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 07:47

Posted Image...Such a lovely car pitty Frank was not in it .


#4368 cooper997

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:27

Ray,

Should be #5 Bib Stillwell Cooper-Climax leading #12 Stan Jones 250F heading for Newry Corner, Longford 1958. Ellrosso posted on page 107 post 4264, the 250F complete with damaged nose. In the most recent photo though, #12 has been added to the rh side of the nose.

Stephen

#4369 David Shaw

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:29

The Long Bridge pics must be 1958, are they? Aussie Miller heading Patto's older Cooper, and Lukey (Cooper No 5) leading who?


Stan Jones' 250F.

EDIT: The Matich photo is from '65, wrong number for '64.

Edited by David Shaw, 11 January 2011 - 08:31.


#4370 Stephen W

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:26

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Another great batch of photos - love the crowd & the pub in the background. :wave:

#4371 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:42

Yes, of course... 1965...

Otherwise Geoff Smedley wouldn't have been there. It was Richo and Co who deserted Frank in '63, but came back in '66.

#4372 GeoffR

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:52

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Driving a Galaxie (?) around Longford, that would be scary!

#4373 ellrosso

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:00

That's just about it for Pat Smith's photos - some great stuff amongst them isn't there? Bob Wright sent me the disc of med res files (Pat is his sister-in-law) early last year and unfortunately he passed away before I could get contact details etc for her or anyone else in his family. However Andrew Lamont (HSCC historian) will hopefully track down Bob's son for me and I'll be able to put some full hi-res scans onto the website in the near future. Pretty sure they were all on Kodachrome so most are in good shape. Amazing how amateur shots can sometimes have more character than pro shots as time goes on. Especially like the 1959 Pub corner shots
of Lukey, Jones etc - terrific Longford atmosphere.
Cheers, ellrosso

#4374 W154

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:09

This really is the most remarkable photo-thread; from the grey, wet and cold UK thanks, once again, for sharing some of your sunshine with us. Keep them coming. :clap:

Unfortunatly at this point in time we have no sunshine to send as half of Australia is under about 3 feet of flood water. :down:

#4375 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:43

Originally posted by GeoffR
Driving a Galaxie around Longford, that would be scary!


Not so sure about that...

At the same point on the circuit and probably the same year, but in his Cooper, he had a 'moment' and headed full tilt for the pub!

I'm sure you'd put that into a more scary category every time. And, as one who's been passed on Tannery Straight by a Galaxie (1965 - Sir Gawaine Baillie) while driving from one spectator area to another between practice sessions, I'm sure there are other things that can scare one more.

#4376 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 13:06

While we're here, Peter McKay has sent this around his friends asking if anyone knows who it is and what car it is...

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Caversham in the late fifties, he feels sure.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 14:17

While we're here, Peter McKay has sent this around his friends asking if anyone knows who it is and what car it is...

I think it might be the Cass of Les Cass. Body shape looks very close indeed.
I have only a handful of Aussie results for the car, all courtesy of Terry Walker:
- Caversham, March and May 1948
- Narrogin, November 1948
- Goomalling, June 1949
If it's not Les Cass, it will be the same car carrying another name.

#4378 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 22:57

Rich, I've seen that article before...

It must be from an early AMS, isn't it? Do you know which issue?

Thanks for the link, I'll send that to Peter.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 23:19

Ray that photo you posted is Don Hall in his Hall Special,built around 1955 first powered by a Harley Davidson engine the a JAP.
It was quite a good runner in its day i dont know what happened to it i will asy Don.

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#4380 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 23:20

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The second pic with all the officials and cops standing on the outside of the corner, and the pic of the crowd outside the Longford Hotel realse that crowd control and safety is a smidge better these days.Actually the pic of the Jane Jag has nobody standing outside the pub.
Lindsay, great pics as always but could you make them go down the page instead of across?

#4381 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 23:22

Unfortunatly at this point in time we have no sunshine to send as half of Australia is under about 3 feet of flood water. :down:

Just sunny Qld but it is FAR deeper than that.

#4382 ken devine

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 23:30

This shot by David Vandal Caversham 1956.






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#4383 kevinbartlett

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 01:03

The Jack Murray D type was a different car - silver in colour.
David Finch retained his car, still white, and drove it at Warwick Farm in 1961.
I had the pleasure of meeting him again after many years at our recent Tasman Revival meeting at Eastern Creek

John


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#4384 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:25

Originally posted by kevinbartlett
This may clarify, John. KB

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It's great when you contribute to these things, KB...

And now a few more from WA to identify, I'll be getting the photographer's name later:

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And to my way of thinking, the most interesting of the bunch:

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#4385 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 03:45

And these late '50s and early '60s pics from WA are identified (thank Peter McKay for these):

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Lionel Beattie in the Repco Holden sports car... which had once been...

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Merv Dudley's BRM Morgan (the 'BRM' stood for 'Bill Richards Motors'), this is at the end of its career in 1959.

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Sydney Anderson in an Austin Healey. Anderson killed himself in December 1957, so this pic was not taken in '59 as has been supposed.

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The highly respected Arthur Collett in a Porsche 356 in a 6-hour race.

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Ray Barfield in the Aston Martin DB3S David McKay tried many times to repurchase from him.

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Dave Sullivan in a Holden in the 6-hour.

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David Sadique in a Simca in the 6-hour.

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And another of Merv Dudley in the BRM Morgan.


#4386 xj13v12

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:34


Note that they are pushing on the small rear wing, one of the earliest seen on a racing car, certainly in this country.

#4387 ken devine

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 05:27

That is an excellent set of photos Ray. They are
Bob Mccandlish in the Hugh McKinley Berkley
Vin Smith Co driving Max McCrackens Lotus Elite in a 6 hour.
A sports car race start 57 AGP.
Colin Metcher in the ex Ranford Morgan.
Jack Ayres is driving the Byfied Holden Sports.pre Repco.

#4388 ellrosso

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:26

Lee, I post these shots on my wife's Macbook and they all run down in a line. When I look at them on my 23" iMac in the studio they are next to each other in pairs!
So I don't really have an answer for you re any control over it....

Cheers ellrosso

#4389 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:18

Lee, I post these shots on my wife's Macbook and they all run down in a line. When I look at them on my 23" iMac in the studio they are next to each other in pairs!
So I don't really have an answer for you re any control over it....

Cheers ellrosso

Fair enough, I cant even post pics here. They are easier to scroll ofcourse up and down.

#4390 Tim Murray

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:24

To get them to display in a vertical line (on all systems) you need to enter a carriage return after each photo url.

#4391 ellrosso

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:41

Thanks Wirra, I'll give it a go on my next batch. Cheers, ellrosso

#4392 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 09:43

Two 'returns' are better, that puts a gap between the pics...

Now for some more from Peter McKay. The photographer was a Dutch enthusiast, Peter de Vries, by the way, so all credit to him for taking these very interesting pics in WA. I'm not sure that they were all taken at Caversham (one actually looks like a hillclimb...), but they are said to all be at Caversham.

Also, as seen a couple of posts ago, the captioning hasn't been right. I'm trying to make sure those I can establish are other than they are supposed to be are captioned so, but any corrections are welcome.

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John Walker in the Byfield MG

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A rare pic of the Dwyer/Negus Plymouth Special with its road equipment on it. The more modern helmet suggests it's not Senator Sid driving, right?

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The mixture suggests a 6-hour race, Barfield, the Elite and Simca pictured above included.

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Don't know about this one, it came labelled as being the...

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...Syd Anderson Alta, but with the exhausts out the opposite side and more of them, not to mention different bodywork and offset driving position, I think it's rather a more interesting car.

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A similar thing applies to this car... labelled as the Sid Taylor Dodge, it doesn't look right to me...

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...the tail and the nose look wrong, but I accept that it could be the GMC power unit that Taylor used later on. I'm sure I read that somewhere, and that it went to E D Edwards. Terry, where are you?

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#4393 ellrosso

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 11:12

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#4394 HiRich

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 13:14

Rich, I've seen that article before...

It must be from an early AMS, isn't it? Do you know which issue?

Thanks for the link, I'll send that to Peter.

All I have is AMS, some time in 1950

Ray that photo you posted is Don Hall in his Hall Special,built around 1955 first powered by a Harley Davidson engine the a JAP.
It was quite a good runner in its day i dont know what happened to it i will asy Don.

And this is where it gets interesting. Ken, you are correct that it appears to be the Don Hall Special, with Don aboard.
A piece in an early Loose Fillings shows a very similar layout and paint job. A single exhaust indicates the later JAP engine (certainly fitted by 1956)
The LF piece states Don built the car himself in the early 1950s. But it is patently identical to the Cass in almost every detail except the grille on the nose. My (very patchy) Australian results would fit Les Cass selling it on c.1950, but I have nothing to confirm or deny that. Perhaps Don could fill out the story.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 21:00

Ray, photo of car #3 shows the ex Tourist Trophy Bugatti Type 57 raced prewar by Duncan Ord and mono bodied in the 1950s as shown, and under restoration for a long time by Jim Krajancich

#4396 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 22:37

Originally posted by john medley
Ray, photo of car #3...

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....shows the ex Tourist Trophy Bugatti Type 57 raced prewar by Duncan Ord and mono bodied in the 1950s as shown, and under restoration for a long time by Jim Krajancich.


So all we need now is for Terry to weigh in (where is he?) with a pic of it in its original form...

I knew it would be a much more interesting car than the Alta. Same with the ex-Ranford Morgan:

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And my thanks to those who are helping out here. This car, it was evident to me, had 4-stud wheels, which took it away from the V8 Special category I originally thought it might belong in. Knowing it's the Morgan makes a lot of sense. Ken's doing a good job there, I'm sure Peter will appreciate it.

Any further advances with the car labelled the TS Special? Is it so? Did it look so rough in its GMC-powered form?

#4397 nivola

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 22:54

Ray That is for sure the TS Special

It is in its early form before the modifications for what we now know as the TS Special. Which Is still being driven like it should by "ET"

#4398 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 23:15

It can't be real early if it's got the GMC engine, can it?

Most of these photos seem to be from about '57 to '62 or so, so that should be the period. What does it look like now?

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 23:24

The Bugatti in its original form in the Patriotic Grand Prix 1940

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 23:25

Here you go

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