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#1 stuartbrs

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 01:56

Is it paint? Decals?

Just curious to know what it is.

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#2 pio!pio!

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 02:16

Special stickers...

I guess they are cheaper to produce than painting..and light enough that it doesn't matter..plus it allows for those interesting prints

http://www.autosport...to.php/id/66521
you can see it peeling below the airbox :p

I dunno what other teams use this method, but I believe the Audi R10 is skinned in this manner.

#3 McGuire

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 09:10

The technology has trickled down from NASCAR. :)

#4 Engineguy

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 10:30

Originally posted by McGuire
The technology has trickled down from NASCAR. :)


And it trickled down to NASCAR from the trucking industry. Pretty common stuff. 3M supplies a lot of the film and certifies "authorized installers" who print on the film with big inkjet printers and apply it.

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#5 McGuire

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 14:51

Exactly right. First used for the big graphics on the sides of semi van box trailers. Then they got the film thin enough to pull over compound curves, and perforated it to be used on bus windows etc. Now you see the stuff everywhere.

Still hasn't caught on for closeup stuff though... the quality of the surface finish is not good at all. Looks especially crappy under artificial light. Some may find this amusing... the paint jobs you see on cars at SEMA etc? To take a brand new vehicle straight off the assembly and make it look like that costs around $40,000.

#6 Todd

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 15:17

The end result looks like they are promoting some new NYC night club for the stupid and insecure.

#7 McGuire

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 17:23

yessir... the graphics scheme on the Honda RA107 looks like one of the prints found on double-knit polyester mens' shirts from the Disco era.

#8 Ben

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 07:48

Quote from friend who works at Honda F1:

"On TV it'll look like a Prost that's been paintballing"

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#9 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 07:52

I was going to go with dipped in algae, but I think yours works.

I've seen photos from three different photographers at the same event in the same lighting, and the car has looked completely different in all 3. From light blue, to dark blue, to purple. Likewise the Spyker appears to be a completely different car depending on what country they're testing in and what the weather is like at the time.

#10 McGuire

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 11:16

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
the Spyker appears to be a completely different car depending on what country they're testing in


on advice of counsel

#11 Greg Locock

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 06:41

oh go on, prove you are merely insane as opposed to a spamming bastard

#12 desmo

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 16:51

For the record Greg isn't talking to McG, I removed a spam post that was above Greg's.

#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 17:55

I've been bemused recently that all the spam posts/threads have been at this end of the street.

#14 zac510

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 22:32

Back on the topic, I saw some photos early in the season with some ill-fitting stickers. Why didn't they paint the car (water) blue then stick the land over the top to use less sticker?

Seems unlikely we'll see it back again this year anyway..

#15 Jones Foyer

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 00:28

Originally posted by zac510
Back on the topic, I saw some photos early in the season with some ill-fitting stickers. Why didn't they paint the car (water) blue then stick the land over the top to use less sticker?

Seems unlikely we'll see it back again this year anyway..


I sure hope so; while interesting to look at as a showcar on a stand, it certainly isn't a proper race car livery and I hope the team's poor performance will make them want to introduce the RA108 with a completely new livery- hopefully based no their ivory/red history.

#16 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 03:51

Earth Car goes for one more year, and then 2009 is back to...well, whatever.

#17 Jones Foyer

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:52

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Earth Car goes for one more year, and then 2009 is back to...well, whatever.


Dang. Well hopefully it won't be exactly the same.

#18 cheapracer

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:21

Originally posted by Jones Foyer


it certainly isn't a proper race car livery


Remember the BAR colour scheme (1/2 555 and 1/2 Lucky Strike) was banned and the determination was that cars had to have symmetrical paint schemes. The Honda clearly isn't.

I thought the BAR looked great but not many agree with me.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:22

Originally posted by cheapracer


Remember the BAR colour scheme (1/2 555 and 1/2 Lucky Strike) was banned and the determination was that cars had to have symmetrical paint schemes. The Honda clearly isn't.

I thought the BAR looked great but not many agree with me.


No the zipper livery it was not banned if I correctly recall. What was banned was running one car with 555 and the other with Lucky Strike livery.

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#20 cheapracer

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 14:54

Originally posted by Oho


No the zipper livery it was not banned if I correctly recall. What was banned was running one car with 555 and the other with Lucky Strike livery.


My bad, theres a bus in 5 minutes, I'll be under it ;)

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 23:56

Originally posted by cheapracer


My bad, theres a bus in 5 minutes, I'll be under it ;)


don't do it !! you may harm a lot of other people getting your kicks.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 00:00

Originally posted by cheapracer
I thought the BAR looked great but not many agree with me.

I liked it too, at least it was different as well. Red and white is boring IMO, and silver / chrome is a bit strange considering the cars are carbon fibre. I'd love silver if the cars were aluminium. RBR is my favourite, I liked the original Renault racing yellow and blue (used I think once in testing), but the earth was great IMO and it was also different.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 00:26

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#24 desmo

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 16:58

^^ :lol: ^^

I'm glad a proper use was found for that Jag.

#25 F1flagger

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 17:55

Any different color scheme makes life easier for a blue flagger, and actually being able to see a car number (even if only on the rear wing endplates) is very unusual in this day and age.

#26 k1ngy

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 15:07

I worked for a company that was trying to do the decals for the Jag car once due to the film they used was to thick. We tried different things but in the end trying to help them just fizzled out, shame really would have been cool being able to say 'I did that'