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#101 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 22:28

Originally posted by Alan Cox
.....However, the Peter McFadyen shot from the Veloce website is fantastic - I can't top that!


Yeah, a really lucky shot, right place, right time, right exposure set ready to fire and right on the ball!

Well worth a look...

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#102 Doug Nye

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 22:42

:clap: Thanks fellers - what a wonderful place this is...

But what I REALLY need is a shot showing the midship monocoque - and yes Alan I would love to see your paddock shot...

Thanks again.

DCN

#103 FLB

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 00:25

Originally posted by simonlewisbooks
I love that start photo Twinny! 4 /10 for technical merit but 10/10 for artistic impression and atmosphere! A photo you can almost hear...if that makes sense?

Agreed! Your comment makes perfect sense to me. There's a grainy aspect to it, almost like a vibration. You can feel the cars really pounding the ground and the horsepower that's being unleached :D

#104 Twin Window

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 00:55

It was taken on my below-bargain-basement Kodak Instamatic - that's why it's technically crap!

#105 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 01:23

The box Brownie of the modern age!

I have no qualms with that photo... it does a great job...

#106 Twin Window

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 01:32

Originally posted by Ray Bell

The box Brownie of the modern age!

Exactly!

I agree, though; the pic does manage - somehow - to capture the essence of the moment.

#107 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 01:43

Just to restate Barry Singleton's words...

Back there on the third or fourth or fifth row, sometimes I would actually wonder if I was going to survive the start or the first corner! Then when the flag came down, the noise was tremendous, and the smoke was blinding and you’d drive off hoping nothing was going to go wrong, because you really couldn’t see much at all.

Not only that, but you were getting rocks and rubber tossed up at you, it was terrifying.



#108 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 08:26

Originally posted by Alan Cox


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With Richard Lloyd's famous little modsports Triumph Spitfire just in shot.
Alan...any pics? time for a 60s/70s modsports thread?

#109 Alan Cox

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 18:27

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A paddock shot of the Team Charles Clark BRM, of Ian Mitchell, for Mr Nye. As discussed at last night's Northern TNF gathering, when Ian Titchmarsh informed us that the Charles Clark Group were part of Rubery Owen - hence the BRM connection.

Nice to see 2 VEV lurking in the background.

#110 Doug Nye

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 22:21

Thanks Alan - at least that tells me which car it is not!

DCN

#111 Alan Cox

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 23:00

Oulton Park 1969
Mike Hailwood's Lola T142

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#112 Good Oil

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 07:20

Hello
Just discovered this site.
I have a huge number of photographs from the 70's taken by myself in NZ. If interested .
Tried to load some on this thread but too hard.
Cheers,

#113 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 08:47

It's actually easy once you understand the concept, slippery one...

Just open up http://imageshack.us and upload the pic, then copy and paste the 'hotlink for forums 1' line to your post. Or the 'thumbnails for forums 1' line if you'd prefer, and especially if there's lots of them.

Love to see some Teretonga if you have any!

#114 Stephen W

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 14:33

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Above: Sir Nick Williamson in Tony Bancroft's M10B - Prescott Hillclimb - 1974

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Above: Roy Lane in the McRae GM1 at Harewood - 1976

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#115 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 15:35

Bill Wood now lives here in the Victoria area. I'll see if I can get those photos to him.

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 18:04

Ask Bill if the story of him doing York to Scarborough in 20 minutes in his Cobra was true.He and his brother were common sights at Croft and Rufforth in their Cobras; Bill got more ambitious with his F5000 car which - sorry Bill- was rather quicker than he was judging by the amount of time car spent off piste...

#117 Allen Brown

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 18:34

When he spun, it was more often than not on the oil coming out of his engine wasn't it? He had seven F5000s of one shape or another and won races in every one of them. Until he bought the ex-Musetti F2 March I'd say his typical result was Retired (engine) rather than spinning off.

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#118 Michael Clark

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 18:47

Originally posted by Good Oil
Hello
Just discovered this site.
I have a huge number of photographs from the 70's taken by myself in NZ. If interested .
Tried to load some on this thread but too hard.
Cheers,


Welcome GS, I mean GO

Be warned, this place can be addictive

#119 Bob Riebe

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 18:55

Originally posted by Allen Brown
That was Jerry Hansen in his Lola T300 at Minnesota State Fair 1972. He lapped the field. They didn't like that!

Sprint cars then had the choice of moving forward with new technology, as Indy had decide to do ten years before, or to freeze their cars' layout. They chose the latter.

Allen

I have Scalzo's book but not here, any way, Hansen won on the paved State Fair half-mile track (whichis now gone, Fair board hated it and got rid of it first chance they got).

Many drivers started using the rear-engined sprints, including Sneva, mostly on paved tracks.
Some were modifed cars from other series, some were purpose built.
On dirt they did not have an advantage, but on the paved tracks, it was a different story.

Most super modified organizations banned them about the same time also.

The western super mods. ran rear-engined machines at least into the eighties, including one who used a Hemi.
I would have loved to seen those on a road course just once.

Bob

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 21:21

Originally posted by Allen Brown
When he spun, it was more often than not on the oil coming out of his engine wasn't it? He had seven F5000s of one shape or another and won races in every one of them. Until he bought the ex-Musetti F2 March I'd say his typical result was Retired (engine) rather than spinning off.

Allen


He didn't seem to get on with that March for some reason - I saw him beaten at Croft in a Libre race by Joe Applegarth in his old ex-Rindt Brabham BT23C one afternoon.

Now Applegarth would have made a great F5000 driver!

#121 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 22:51

A friend showed Bill the photos this morning:

"...he was blown away with delight. He was like a little boy!...Billy is the one in the front pushing the car onto the trailer, not the guy standing. He doesn't recognize the guy behind in the bell bottoms but he sure had a good laugh!..."

Vince H.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 04:19

Great to hear from you MC. Must do lunch sometime and talk cars.

Originally posted by Michael Clark


Welcome GS, I mean GO

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#123 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 04:33

Hey!

I thought you were sorting out how to post pictures...

#124 Good Oil

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:31

Will endeavour to work it out this weekend.
Sincere apologies.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 08:40

Originally posted by picblanc
Just found this one I hope its an F5000/ Bill Wood I presume?
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raceannouncer2003 A friend showed Bill the photos this morning:

"...he was blown away with delight. He was like a little boy!...Billy is the one in the front pushing the car onto the trailer, not the guy standing. He doesn't recognize the guy behind in the bell bottoms but he sure had a good laugh!..."

Vince H.

Great stuff!! :D I always thought he was taking it of the trailer! :confused: I wonder why he is pushing it back on, as its mid morning practice time!!? :p
Thanks Vince.
Graham.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 09:10

Originally posted by john aston
Ask Bill if the story of him doing York to Scarborough in 20 minutes in his Cobra was true.He and his brother were common sights at Croft and Rufforth in their Cobras; Bill got more ambitious with his F5000 car which - sorry Bill- was rather quicker than he was judging by the amount of time car spent off piste...


But when he kept it together, he was pretty quick there. He couldn't keep up with Tony Dean, but who could? I remember Bill living in a house at Escrick on the main Selby to York road. You'd often see one of his F5000 cars or a Cobra on the drive or peeping out of the garage, a nice contrast to all the Cortinas and other mundane stuff parked outside neighbouring houses.

Mark mentioned Joe Applegarth. What a man! A scruffy car that on first sight you'd expect to popping and farting along at the back of the field, but how wrong could you be. Didn't he later graduate to a BT30?

And of course there's another picture of Bill in his Trojan (on the grid at Croft) in the usual place when I want to reminisce about 70s clubbies at Croft - www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/singleseater/shadowtrojan.htm

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 15:53

Tony Dean Chevron, Brands 1974 (instamatic photo)
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#128 Allen Brown

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 16:21

Do you know which Brands in 1974? 16 March, 14 April, 26 August or 20 October?

I have a bee in my bonnet about sorting out Dean's Chevron B24s. This is almost certainly his original car, B24-73-01.

Allen

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 16:30

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Do you know which Brands in 1974? 16 March, 14 April, 26 August or 20 October?

I have a bee in my bonnet about sorting out Dean's Chevron B24s. This is almost certainly his original car, B24-73-01.

Allen


Hi Allen, me again, again!! its the 19th October 1974 :)

#130 David M. Kane

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 17:08

Picblanc:

That is one heck of an Instamatic!

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 17:17

Originally posted by David M. Kane
Picblanc:

That is one heck of an Instamatic!


Assisted by Adobe Photoshop!! :lol:

#132 picblanc

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 14:37

Found last few of my F5000 pics, not great, but again a flavour of those days. All from the August bank holiday meeting 1974.
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Tony Dean in the pouring rain.
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Damien Magee and Tony Dean.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 16:11

Great shots Graham....it had to be Bank Holiday Monday.....it's raining! Brands has changed so much, I was up there last week, and not for the better IMHO.

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#134 Allen Brown

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 21:08

Originally posted by picblanc
Damien Magee and Tony Dean.
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That's a rare sighting. May I?

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 21:42

Originally posted by Allen Brown
That's a rare sighting. May I?

Allen


Yes Allen, help youself. :up: :) sorry its not a better scan. :|

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 23:48

Beautiful topic..!!

go on please!

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 13:53

Picblanc
I have just seen your photo of the Formula 5000 race at Brands Bank Holiday 1974. I was there (aged 10) and my Father - John Stevens - was driving the number 10 car. It was a Mclaren M18, chassis # 500-04. It was amazing to see the photo as we do not have any with him in that car.I would dearly love to obtain a hi-res copy of that picture and any others you may have with him in.
Hope you can help.
Guy

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 16:41

Originally posted by quattro64
Picblanc
I have just seen your photo of the Formula 5000 race at Brands Bank Holiday 1974. I was there (aged 10) and my Father - John Stevens - was driving the number 10 car. It was a Mclaren M18, chassis # 500-04. It was amazing to see the photo as we do not have any with him in that car.I would dearly love to obtain a hi-res copy of that picture and any others you may have with him in.
Hope you can help.
Guy


Hello Guy, I will email the picture to you,(PM your email address to me) you can print a 10x6 pic from it no probs, if you have not got a photo quality printer get back to me.
I seem to remember he went of the road on the approach to Clearways at some stage? I have a blurry pic of the marshalls pushing the car somewhere!!.
Cheers,
Graham.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:49

:wave: Great topic.

I recently put up a q on my "Who was this" thread with no replyes. !

Team Manager Fred King/Chief mechanic Fred Campbell , should be F5000 and a dark Ford 600 transporter at the time when Lola Team was racing in F5000 . Any bells ring ???????

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#140 charles r

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 12:49

Agree, a wonderful thread. Can anyone provide information and photographs of Bob Brown's Chevron B24? IIRC he teamed up with Tony Dean for a season of UK F5000, calling themselves AAR or something similar. All information gratefully revceived.

#141 Allen Brown

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 13:15

Originally posted by charles r
Agree, a wonderful thread. Can anyone provide information and photographs of Bob Brown's Chevron B24? IIRC he teamed up with Tony Dean for a season of UK F5000, calling themselves AAR or something similar. All information gratefully revceived.


http://www.oldracing...chevron/b24.htm

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 14:46

Originally posted by Ray Bell


Yeah, a really lucky shot, right place, right time, right exposure set ready to fire and right on the ball!

Well worth a look...



Thanks for your comment, Ray. I'm reminded of a driver (don't remember but you can probably tell me who it was) who once said "Funny, the harder I work and the more I practise, the luckier I get" - or words to that effect.

Peter

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 15:52

Originally posted by Lotus 45



Thanks for your comment, Ray. I'm reminded of a driver (don't remember but you can probably tell me who it was) who once said "Funny, the harder I work and the more I practise, the luckier I get" - or words to that effect.

Peter


...Wasn't that originally attributed to Gary Player the golfer...?

#144 Cirrus

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 20:14

Funny - I'd always thought it was Arnold Palmer.....

Nevertheless - "The more I practice, the luckier I get" is a great one liner

Along with:-

"There's nothing as light as nothing"

and

"If you want to finish first - first, you want to finish"

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 10:25

..you are probably right! :

Was it Frank Gardner who said "When the Flag Drops the Bullshit Stops"?
and also "Show me a Good Loser and I'll Show You A Loser"...? or was that Roger Penske..?

#146 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 10:29

The latter was certainly uttered by Penske, as I'm sure the former was by Gardner...

Whether they originated those expressions or not, who's to say?

#147 picblanc

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 15:43

Originally posted by charles r
..you are probably right! :

Was it Frank Gardner who said "When the Flag Drops the Bullshit Stops"?
and also "Show me a Good Loser and I'll Show You A Loser"...? or was that Roger Penske..?


I thought it was Barry sheene? (first quote!)

#148 charles r

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:17

"Don't Push your Granny when She's Shaving..." - Barrie Williams

#149 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 17:57

Originally poted by charles r

Was it Frank Gardner who said "When the Flag Drops the Bullshit Stops"?



It certainly was. Definitely not Barry Sheene.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 18:07

Evening, I have just been sorting out my old VHS tapes and have come across the Go with Noakes F5000 programme featuring David Purley in the Lec Chevron 1975? at a snowy Oulton park!!.
I have put it on to a DVD-R the quality is excellent, I remember seeing this mentioned some time a go but dont know where it was, or if anyone else had one?, but to cut a long story short, if any one would like a copy for the cost of disc and postage, please PM me for details.
Cheers, Graham.