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#151 Patrick Sumner

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:45

Originally posted by picblanc

No 42 is not Keith Holland's car but the late Brian McGuire's. I assume he bought the Ian Ward Racing truck as in small writing on the lower left is Brentford Motor Caravans which was Brian's business. Probably the Toyota with the accordion on top was his!

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#152 picblanc

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 21:36

Originally posted by Patrick Sumner
No 42 is not Keith Holland's car but the late Brian McGuire's. I assume he bought the Ian Ward Racing truck as in small writing on the lower left is Brentford Motor Caravans which was Brian's business. Probably the Toyota with the accordion on top was his!


Thanks Patrick :up:

#153 richie

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 19:55

Thanks Graham for DVD. Quite wonderful to hear the thunderous sounds at Oulton Park. :clap:

I was a bit puzzled by the numbering on Tom Walkinshaw's Modus on film as no 45 and on Old Racing Cars web page as no 39. A minor detail but puzzling or was it a mistake Allen?

Go on everyone make Graham rich by ordering a copy for minimal cost.

#154 picblanc

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 20:18

Originally posted by richie
Thanks Graham for DVD. Quite wonderful to hear the thunderous sounds at Oulton Park. :clap:

I was a bit puzzled by the numbering on Tom Walkinshaw's Modus on film as no 45 and on Old Racing Cars web page as no 39. A minor detail but puzzling or was it a mistake Allen?

Go on everyone make Graham rich by ordering a copy for minimal cost.


Glad you got it safely Richie, good "in it", yes go on everybody make me rich!!;)

#155 Phil Rainford

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 14:53

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=fqWwd2xzOow

Brian Redman testing a F5000 Chevron at Oulton Park

#156 Rob Ryder

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 16:19

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=fqWwd2xzOow

Brian Redman testing a F5000 Chevron at Oulton Park


A clip from the excellent "The Speed Merchants" DVD (and book) :up:
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#157 MCS

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 09:03

I can't get this link to work . . . :confused:

#158 picblanc

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 09:16

Originally posted by MCS
I can't get this link to work . . . :confused:


Me neither :confused:

#159 Stephen W

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 10:31

Originally posted by MCS
I can't get this link to work . . . :confused:


It is also failing to link for me as well!

Very Frustrating! :mad:

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#160 yasmin

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 11:19

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=fqWwd2xzOow

Brian Redman testing a F5000 Chevron at Oulton Park



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#161 r.atlos

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 11:36

Try it just like that (i.e. without http://....):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqWwd2xzOow

#162 picblanc

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 21:09

Brought this back up for someone interested in F5000.

#163 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 22:47

Originally posted by picblanc
Brought this back up for someone interested in F5000.


Can't blame you...

#164 Redneb

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 00:44

It's been a long time since anyone posted on here but, as part of my digitising my photo collection I came across a bunch of Formula 5000 photos. The first is the Eisert Chevrolet which was the first car of its type, billed as a Formula A, that came to New Zealand. I remember how electrifying it was to race fans used to the less spectacular Brabhams, Coopers, Lotuses etc of the time. The car remained in New Zealand and was driven by Dennis Marwood here.

The rest are from an NZ Grand Prix during the mid 1970s. I'm disappointed in the quality of the scans and apologise for that. I'd borrowed a mate's camera because it had a long lense and whatever the thing was, the optics weren't a patch on my own gear (which didn't have a long lense). I was but a poor schoolboy at the time.


The Eiserrt Chevrolet

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The following are Graham McRae in the GM2

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Graham Lawrence in his Lola

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Dexter Dunlop in a McRae GM1

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The rest I have no idea who they are, they were some of the few photos I didn't label in my collection. Regretting it now.

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I was tempted not to put this up but, hey, it was a historic race - the rolling start to the NZ GP.

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#165 GD66

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 00:51

I'll open the betting with
#2, Peter Gethin,
#12 Baron Robertson,
#11 Kenny Smith,
#10 Warwick Brown

and see how we go.... :wave:

Edit : Might be Garrie Cooper himself in the Elfin, I think McCormack wore a full-face helmet...

Edited by GD66, 12 June 2010 - 02:20.


#166 arttidesco

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 01:40

#2 VDS Chevron B24, Peter Gethin was driving a Marathon Oil sponsored B24 here in the UK during 1973 and in 1974 he was driving a VDS Chevron B28 in the UK beyond the nose cone there seems to be little visible difference in these photo's so might be wrong but I'd hazard a guess these pictures were taken in UK's winter '73 going into '74.

The Air New Zealand #11 (?) looks like a March 73B F Atlantic/Pacific car with the exhaust being so high Ken Smith in 1974 would be my best bet :-)

I'm done, good luck with the rest :-)

#167 Marc Sproule

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 02:33

Stumbled onto the resurrection of this thread after work this evening. Brings back some of favorite early racing memories. In particular, Jody Scheckter sliding his Trojan through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca in '73. Two big black stripes left behind, lap after lap.

Mario giving it plenty of boot too. Lap after lap.

Glorious sound and great fun!

I didn't take my first racing pics until '74 and don't have a lot of F5000 stuff but when I get it scanned and uploaded I'll add it to this thread.

In the meantime, these will have to suffice....

http://www.flickr.co...57623386566688/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386566688/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

missed one earlier.....Redman and Hobbs
http://www.flickr.co...N03/4289982074/

Edited by Marc Sproule, 12 June 2010 - 04:35.


#168 David McKinney

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:54

I'd go for McCormack in the Elfin, and No.22's Garry Pederson

(Would have responded earlier, but I was in the Land of Nod at 0144 this morning :) )

#169 GD66

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:08

I heard you the first time, David ! :lol: Looks like 2 VDS Chevrons in the rolling start lineup, would the other one be Teddy Pilette ?

#170 David McKinney

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:42

Certainly would

#171 arttidesco

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 13:22

Stumbled onto the resurrection of this thread after work this evening. Brings back some of favorite early racing memories. In particular, Jody Scheckter sliding his Trojan through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca in '73. Two big black stripes left behind, lap after lap.

Mario giving it plenty of boot too. Lap after lap.

Glorious sound and great fun!

I didn't take my first racing pics until '74 and don't have a lot of F5000 stuff but when I get it scanned and uploaded I'll add it to this thread.

In the meantime, these will have to suffice....

http://www.flickr.co...57623386566688/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386566688/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

http://www.flickr.co...57623386503148/

missed one earlier.....Redman and Hobbs
http://www.flickr.co...N03/4289982074/


Fab pics have you got any of Jacky Oliver or was it Tom Price in the Dodge Shadow F5000 car ?

#172 Marc Sproule

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 15:22

Fab pics have you got any of Jacky Oliver or was it Tom Price in the Dodge Shadow F5000 car ?


Not sure what I have. At some point I will put up everything that I have that is good. It won't be much as I shot only a handful of F5000 races.

Edited by Marc Sproule, 12 June 2010 - 15:29.


#173 NZALPA

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 03:45

Not sure what I have. At some point I will put up everything that I have that is good. It won't be much as I shot only a handful of F5000 races.


Thanks Marc. These photos are great.

Have you got any T430 photos from your day out at Riverside (17th October 1976)?. I think all three were there and HU3 was the white cloured BORAXO spare for Brian Redman.



#174 Marc Sproule

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 04:21

Thanks Marc. These photos are great.

Have you got any T430 photos from your day out at Riverside (17th October 1976)?. I think all three were there and HU3 was the white cloured BORAXO spare for Brian Redman.



Thank you for the kind words.

My age addled brain seems to recall that I may have some T430 snaps. If they should not be very good they won't see the light of day on the net. So no guarantees. If I do run across some I'll upload to flickr and then link them here.

#175 tinkerwinker

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 19:13

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Bruce Allison in the Chevron B37

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Ian Ashley Lola T330 [HU17] - Chevrolet V8 Using the inner airbox off a Lola T400

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Richard Scott Lola T400 [HU8] - Chevrolet V8

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Tony Dean Chevron B28 [28-74-01] - Chevrolet V8

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Guy Edwards Lola T332 [HU34] - Chevrolet V8

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Derek Bell Chevron B28 [28-74-02] - Chevrolet V8 John MacDonald entered car

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John Turner Lola T330 [HU18] - Chevrolet V8 Former Supersaloon Skoda driver

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Teddy Pilette Lola T400 [HU11] - Chevrolet V8

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Mick Hill March 74A [1] - Chevrolet V8 Another formmer Supersaloon pilot, in the ex Mike Wilds Dempster car

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Tom Walkinshaw (F5000) 3.4-litre March 752 [15] - Ford GAA V6 The Squat Scot in his days before tin-tops

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Brian McGuire (F5000) 5-litre Lola T332 [HU36] - Chevrolet V8

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Dennis Leech * (F5000) 5-litre Chevron B24 [24-73-06] - Chevrolet V8

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Boy Hayje * (F5000) 3.4-litre March 731 [3] - Ford GAA V6

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Chris Amon * (F5000) 5-litre Talon MR-1 - Chevrolet V8

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Brian Robinson (F5000) 5-litre McLaren M19C [2] - Chevrolet V8

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Peter Gethin (F5000) 5-litre Lola T400 [HU4] - Chevrolet V8 Interesting to note that both the VDS Lolas used only the inner airbox, and held on by a bungee cord onto the roll hoop, very technical

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Gordon Spice (F5000) 5-litre Lola T332 [HU40] - Chevrolet V8

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Jim Kelly Trojan-Chevrolet T101





#176 MCS

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 19:32

Some real nuggets there, tinkerwinker - thanks for posting.

The Amon / Talon, Hayje / March and Bell / Chevron shots are all pretty unique, as I'm sure you are aware. But the last one, the Kelly / Trojan picture is odd. Is that really a Trojan?

#177 tinkerwinker

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 19:45

Some real nuggets there, tinkerwinker - thanks for posting.

The Amon / Talon, Hayje / March and Bell / Chevron shots are all pretty unique, as I'm sure you are aware. But the last one, the Kelly / Trojan picture is odd. Is that really a Trojan?


Yes, it is a Trojan conversion, not the most elegant, certainly looked better as orginal. Dennis Leech did a similar thing when he bought the John MacDonald B28. Will try to find pics.
Also have Dave Purley's B30 somewhere, and Rene Arnoux in his breif practice appearance in the converted McLaren M19 at Thruxton

#178 tinkerwinker

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 19:59

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Dave Purley in the original Chevron B30

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As modified by Mike Earle

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Dennis' subtle mods to the B28

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Allan Kayes track modified Lola T330

#179 MCS

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 20:05

Amazing tinkerwinker :clap: :clap: :clap:

And the Arnoux pic, dare I ask?!!

(You'll be getting an email from Allen Brown any minute now I would have thought...)

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#180 tinkerwinker

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 20:10

May take a bit of time to find the Arnoux pic, going through scanning all my old pics, there are a LOT !!!, but keep finding some gems

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 20:25

Evening, I have just been sorting out my old VHS tapes and have come across the Go with Noakes F5000 programme featuring David Purley in the Lec Chevron 1975? at a snowy Oulton park!!.
I have put it on to a DVD-R the quality is excellent, I remember seeing this mentioned some time a go but dont know where it was, or if anyone else had one?, but to cut a long story short, if any one would like a copy for the cost of disc and postage, please PM me for details.
Cheers, Graham.


Hi Graham/all,

Does this offer still count? Myself I have a couple of australian F5000 dvds from tv (live from ABC?), they're great to watch. Maybe you want these in exchange?

I have wanted to send this in a PM to you, but unfortunaly you seem to have disabled that option.

Yours,

Mark

#182 richie

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 21:39

Amazing tinkerwinker :clap: :clap: :clap:

And the Arnoux pic, dare I ask?!!

(You'll be getting an email from Allen Brown any minute now I would have thought...)



clap: :clap: :clap:

FaNTASTIC pictures.

Do you have a picture of Chris Featherstone's McRae?

#183 jj2728

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 23:15

Mid-Ohio....still archiving my dad's negatives, can't remember the year.

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#184 picblanc

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 07:54

Hi Graham/all,

Does this offer still count? Myself I have a couple of australian F5000 dvds from tv (live from ABC?), they're great to watch. Maybe you want these in exchange?

I have wanted to send this in a PM to you, but unfortunaly you seem to have disabled that option.

Yours,

Mark


Hi Mark, yes I still have it, I will pm you.

#185 charles r

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:27

Hi Mark, yes I still have it, I will pm you.


It's a great DVD Graham and has given much enjoyment. Purls looks like he was being sponsored by his local "Bistro Vino" IIRC.

#186 Allen Brown

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:32

(You'll be getting an email from Allen Brown any minute now I would have thought...)

I hadn't noticed the thread - my thread subscriptions keep going missing - I wish I understood why...

Yes, some real gems here.

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Dennis' subtle mods to the B28

One of the B28s today showed signs of serious modifications to the front suspension but I'd never found anything on the two original cars to make the link. This 'nose job' must have required changes to the front suspension and almost certainly proves that B28.


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Allan Kayes track modified Lola T330

Was this taken at Thruxton in 1977? If it was, it shows the final end of this car as the useable bits were sold off and the mangled tub thrown away. Simon just told me that nowadays that would be considered repairable but with F5000 having been abandoned in the UK for 1978 and already dead in the US, there would have been no motivation back then to repair this.


I haven't seen a picture of the Gordon Spice Lola T332 before, or the Kelly Trojan with the narrow nose.

#187 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:41

Agreed, tinkerwinker, all great shots and lovely to see this thread revived.

#188 Giraffe

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:46

I agree wholeheartedly with Alan. Some stunning pics tinkerwinker. :up:

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 13:16

Superb stuff TW, are they all at Thruxton? The Hayje '731' is great, don't think I've ever seen a pic of it before, or if so, not of this quality. Is that a Piper Pawnee behind the Leech B28?

#190 alansart

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 13:28

Superb stuff TW, are they all at Thruxton? The Hayje '731' is great, don't think I've ever seen a pic of it before, or if so, not of this quality. Is that a Piper Pawnee behind the Leech B28?


Certainly good stuff. I recognise Thruxton, but is there a bit of Snetterton in there as well?


#191 Giraffe

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 13:43

I would guess this to be Trevor Taylor in the Malaya Garage Leda, though I don't recall the nose mounted wing.

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#192 tinkerwinker

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 14:01

Certainly good stuff. I recognise Thruxton, but is there a bit of Snetterton in there as well?


Most of my 70's pics were taken at Thrixton, was the nearest circuit to to Devon, going to Snett would have been like going to the moon.

#193 tinkerwinker

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 14:36

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Just found this pic of Vern in the Theodore Lola

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and Trevor thwaites in his T330

#194 picblanc

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 17:16

It's a great DVD Graham and has given much enjoyment. Purls looks like he was being sponsored by his local "Bistro Vino" IIRC.


Hi Charles, glad your enjoying it still, nice to be back on this thread, having been on the Darkside (two wheels) lately!
Great photos just recently posted here, thanks for those, that Allan Kaye pic!! blimey is/was he OK? :well:

#195 picblanc

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 17:19

Didnt F5000 cars look just so right back then, I really loved them & that Chevvy growl. :up:

#196 tinkerwinker

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 17:27

Hi Charles, glad your enjoying it still, nice to be back on this thread, having been on the Darkside (two wheels) lately!
Great photos just recently posted here, thanks for those, that Allan Kaye pic!! blimey is/was he OK? :well:


As far as I can remember, Alan escaped with a broken ankle. Found another pic of the wreck, and you can dsee where the tub folded up

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 17:43

As far as I can remember, Alan escaped with a broken ankle. Found another pic of the wreck, and you can dsee where the tub folded up

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Great photos TW, thanks for sharing them, amazing that a broken ankle was all he suffered!!

#198 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 22:11

That second pic the car looks far worse than the first. The driver was a very lucky man to get out comparitivly unscathed.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:40

I remember one of the drivers here in NZ talking about how many of the drivers developed the "Lola limp" after crashing.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:15

I remember one of the drivers here in NZ talking about how many of the drivers developed the "Lola limp" after crashing.


Hi Shane :wave: Just for the record, since you're quite new to this forum, may I point you to Allen Brown's excellent site which, among other things, will confirm that your pics were indeed taken at the Jan. 1974 New Zealand Grand Prix ( and that alla identifications seem correct....)
http://www.oldracing...php?RaceID=NZ74


As to the "Lola Limp", there have been at least two threads dedicated to the subject
http://forums.autosp...mp;hl=lola limp
http://forums.autosp...mp;hl=lola limp