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#401 JacnGille

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 00:59

Jody told me that he never had problems with the Trojan's front tyres as he never used them because the car was always sideways!

Probably never had trouble with his 917-10 fronts for the same reason. I've never seen such a big gokart!

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#402 E1pix

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 01:44

I intended to start the week off with more F5000 this morning.... but better late than never I suppose.

Glad you are enjoying them!

Road America, Paddock:
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Road America, Turn 13:
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Road America, False Grid Entrance:
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Road America, Entering Turn 5:
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Road America, Turn 5:
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#403 philippe7

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 06:20

Great pics as usual ! Apart from the artistic quality of the actual snapshots, I'm amazed at the sharpness, brightness and intensity of the colours - are those slides or colour negs that you're scanning , and may I ask what sort of equipment you use ?

And to come back to the on-track machinery, what sort of car is Alan Jones driving in the last pic ? A March of sorts ?

#404 eldougo

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 06:54

Looks like a March 75a ,never know that AJ drove one of them .

#405 E1pix

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 07:13

Great pics as usual ! Apart from the artistic quality of the actual snapshots, I'm amazed at the sharpness, brightness and intensity of the colours - are those slides or colour negs that you're scanning , and may I ask what sort of equipment you use ?

And to come back to the on-track machinery, what sort of car is Alan Jones driving in the last pic ? A March of sorts ?

Thanks, I'm happy that you like the images! :up:

Most of these were taken with Kodachrome 64 and 25 slide film, scanned with a Nikon 5000ED scanner using SilverFast software, and corrected in Photoshop. When all is said and done, each image takes one to two hours start to finish (plus the 1/125th it took to shoot :) ).

Being that Kodachrome lacks the color and luster of Fuji films over the past two decades, and that color is evolving in our tastes as well, I correct the images to appear similar to my more current Fuji Velvia 50 chromes.

I think the March was a converted 761 F1 car, and may have been called a 76A. I looked in the race program, that driver's entry is missing.

Thank Again! :)

#406 E1pix

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 07:16

Others like Jerry would better know that story....

Alan started the year in a Lola T-332 and ran the March late in the year. In how many events, I can't recall.

#407 Tim Murray

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 07:28

Jones only raced the 76A once in the American series, winning at Watkins Glen. Elkhart Lake was the next race in the series, and although the photo shows that he obviously drove the car in practice, he quickly switched to a Lola T332, which is what he ended up racing. The 76A was then practised by Bruce Allison, who severely bent it . The car wasn't seen again until the last race of the season at Riverside, where it was driven by Maurizio Flammini.

#408 Jerry Entin

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 11:08

The March was owned by Doug Shierson and loaned to the team. Doug didn't want Bruce Allison to drive the car. As he was afraid if anything happened to it, he would lose the car.

Teddy Yip told Doug if anything went wrong he would stand behind the repairs. Allison was allowed out in practice where he wrecked the tub. Doug Shierson had to pay all repairs and Theodore Racing never gave him a cent. Thus, Doug Shierson didn't have any love for Teddy Yip the rest of his racing. Bruce Allison was given the ride because he was friends with Alan Jones.

Edited by Jerry Entin, 03 May 2011 - 11:10.


#409 RA Historian

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 13:19

Alan Jones' weekend at Road America in July, 1976, was interesting indeed. As stated above, he started the weekend in the March 76A F-5000 car with which he had won the previous round at Watkins Glen. The team's Lola had just been sold to Horst Kroll so when Jones declined to run the March that weekend he needed a car. Theodore Racing quickly rented the Lola T-332 of Richard Shirey and the ADF Team and Jones drove that to fifth place in the race. They then bought a new T-332 for subsequent races.

Jones driving the Shirey car in the race led to a lot of confusion on the hillsides. The car switch was made quite late, and with the usual inability to hear anything on the PA system unless one was standing immediately below the speaker, confusion reigned. Those of us who had been in the paddock knew of the switch, but the majority of fans did not. As I walked about the track I overhead many fans express surprise that the unknown Richard Shirey was running right up with the leaders. When I pointed out that it was Alan Jones in the car, and with a close look they could identify his helmet, heads nodding knowingly.

The next round was at Mid Ohio, and Theodore Racing gave it a pass, with no car available. They were back at the following round, which was Road America's second of the year, with a brand new unraced car which was lovely to look at, so clean and unblemished! Jones was busy in Europe with the Dutch GP so Derek Bell drove the car, but was a DNF with new car blues in the points race. Bell did finish third the following day in the non-points Handicap race.

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#410 Tim Murray

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 18:20

The next round was at Mid Ohio, and Theodore Racing gave it a pass, with no car available.

Theodore Racing were at Mid Ohio. They'd got hold of yet another T332, the ex-Guy Edwards/Embassy Racing car (HU34). Jones finished third in his heat, but had gearbox problems and couldn't start the final. According to Gordon Kirby in Autosport, this particular car had modified rear suspension, so the team found they couldn't fit their spare gearbox.

#411 Giraffe

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 19:12

Theodore Racing were at Mid Ohio. They'd got hold of yet another T332, the ex-Guy Edwards/Embassy Racing car (HU34). Jones finished third in his heat, but had gearbox problems and couldn't start the final. According to Gordon Kirby in Autosport, this particular car had modified rear suspension, so the team found they couldn't fit their spare gearbox.

Patrick Head did the modification.


#412 RA Historian

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 19:55

Theodore Racing were at Mid Ohio. They'd got hold of yet another T332, the ex-Guy Edwards/Embassy Racing car (HU34). Jones finished third in his heat, but had gearbox problems and couldn't start the final. According to Gordon Kirby in Autosport, this particular car had modified rear suspension, so the team found they couldn't fit their spare gearbox.

Oops. I just looked at the results box of the final, not the heats, did not see Alan's name there, so assumed that they gave it a miss. Thanks for setting the record straight!

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#413 Tim Murray

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 20:24

Thanks for setting the record straight!

:up: :up:

Jones certainly played musical cars that year - six races in five different chassis from two manufacturers.

Edited by Tim Murray, 03 May 2011 - 20:25.


#414 E1pix

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 16:26

Jones certainly played musical cars that year - six races in five different chassis from two manufacturers.

Here's a couple from Pocono in 1976, the season-opening cars of Teddy Yip.

Jones in his first ride that year, Lola T-332:
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Bruce Allison in a Lola T-330, Ollie and McKitterick in Pit Lane behind:
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#415 MCS

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 18:04

Jones in his first ride that year, Lola T-332:
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Interesting stuff as usual E1pix :up:

Curious "bump" on the T332 between the nose and the front of the cockpit - that certainly wasn't standard...


#416 E1pix

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 23:50

Curious "bump" on the T332 between the nose and the front of the cockpit - that certainly wasn't standard...

Thank You!

I wonder if that could have been modified to get Tony Brise's knees to fit at Long Beach in '75??? :rolleyes:


#417 Wirra

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 00:53

...I wonder if that could have been modified to get Tony Brise's knees to fit...

He would have to have extraordinary long femurs. I know the McLaren M10s had the option for a long-range fuel tank in that position.

#418 E1pix

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:01

He would have to have extraordinary long femurs. I know the McLaren M10s had the option for a long-range fuel tank in that position.


I know Brise was very tall, but you sure could be right.

Man, those were some really brave boys. I'll bet not a one of them could even spell "Latte." :cool:


#419 bradbury west

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 10:50

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#420 wenoopy

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:36

He would have to have extraordinary long femurs.


Aren't they those small furry creatures from Madagascar?


#421 RA Historian

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:50

Aren't they those small furry creatures from Madagascar?

:lol:

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 13:35

Looking through my fathers old company magazines ("The Bridge ") - Arnolds of East Peckham ,Tonbridge ,Kent saw this so i guess it might interest someone somewhere ! Date was June 1970 Does the car still exist ? Posted Image And off topic ..Walter Arnold the company founder was the first fella to get nicked for speeding in the Arnold Benz "Adam" at 5mph i believe ! That car is at Beaulieu museum...

Edited by hotshoe, 11 June 2011 - 13:47.


#423 Allen Brown

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 15:20

It's a Surtees TS5 or TS5A - number 14 is the number used by De Adamich (a TS5) in 1969 and by Taylor and Hobbs (a TS5A) in 1970.

But couldn't say where it was taken and therefore which car it is.

#424 Giraffe

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 17:30

Previously posted elsewhere on the forum, here is the TS5A (#14) of Trevor Taylor at Oulton Park in March 1970.

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By giraffe138 at 2011-06-11

Same decal arrangement & it looks very much like the same trog working on the car in both pics.

Edited by Giraffe, 11 June 2011 - 17:42.


#425 ellrosso

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:50

Some shots from Rothmans series in Australia 1977 and 1979
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Peter Gethin Chevron Sandown 1977
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Sandown 1977
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Alan Jones winner Adelaide 1977 Lola T332
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Alfredo Costanzo Lola T430 Adelaide 1979
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Costanzo, Warwick Brown, Geoff Lees Ensign Adelaide 1979
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Jon Davison Matich A50 Adelaide
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Alf Costanzo Lola T430 Adelaide 1979
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John Wright Lola T400 Sandown 1979
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Warwick Brown Lola T332 Adelaide 1979

#426 E1pix

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 18:27

Some shots from Rothmans series in Australia 1977 and 1979

AWESOME!!! :up: :up: :up:

#427 Alan Cox

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 18:31

Great stuff, Lindsay. Thanks for posting.

#428 elansprint72

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 22:26

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#429 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:26

Looking through my fathers old company magazines ("The Bridge ") - Arnolds of East Peckham ,Tonbridge ,Kent saw this so i guess it might interest someone somewhere ! Date was June 1970 Does the car still exist ? Posted Image And off topic ..Walter Arnold the company founder was the first fella to get nicked for speeding in the Arnold Benz "Adam" at 5mph i believe ! That car is at Beaulieu museum...

The alloy spraying of the headers was hardly new even then. Speedway cars were doing it in 1970 with good results, better than the ceramic coatings used now. I now of a set still in use that were done in the late 70s!

#430 Frank S

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:32

The alloy spraying of the headers was hardly new even then. Speedway cars were doing it in 1970 with good results, better than the ceramic coatings used now. I now of a set still in use that were done in the late 70s!

I bought a set of MGB metal-sprayed headers from Derrington, in 1967.

#431 MCS

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:12

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John Turner and Trevor Twaites in their T330s...?

#432 Alan Cox

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:25

John Turner and Trevor Twaites in their T330s...?

Indeed, 6th September 1975. Twaites finished seventh, 5 laps adrift of winner David Purley. Turner retired.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:32

Indeed, 6th September 1975. Twaites finished seventh, 5 laps adrift of winner David Purley. Turner retired.



... and for an extra point can you name those strange men loitering in the background?  ;)

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:08

... and for an extra point can you name those strange men loitering in the background?  ;)

Give it some time. Somebody will know them for sure.

#435 Giraffe

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:38

I recognise the chap on the far right of the pic by the extinguisher as he was a regular marshal at Oulton at that time and I worked with him on many occasions. I think his name was Chris.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:26

As far as I can remember, Alan escaped with a broken ankle. Found another pic of the wreck, and you can dsee where the tub folded up

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The guy looking at the wreck on the right is my Dad (Geoff Langford) I will send him a link tonight as he still likes to talk about the good old days of F5000.

#437 donharper

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:18

Great photos Ellrosso.
I see Al D'Alberto in the Alfie photo and Gary Simlin and Phil Harris with Warwick.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:28

Some shots from Rothmans series in Australia 1977 and 1979

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Costanzo, Warwick Brown, Geoff Lees Ensign Adelaide 1979


Never knew Lees ran in that series, in fact didn't know they admitted F1 cars(assuming it's the Mario Delotti car that Lees ran in the 1978 British GP qualifying and Aurora series).

Many thanks for posting.


#439 Giraffe

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:55

Never knew Lees ran in that series, in fact didn't know they admitted F1 cars(assuming it's the Mario Delotti car that Lees ran in the 1978 British GP qualifying and Aurora series).


It was N175 MN04 from 1975 that was owned by Jack Kallay & sponsored by Mario Delotti and Teddy Yip. I spoke to Jack this morning & am meeting him in a couple of days so I'll ask him more about it.

Edited by Giraffe, 16 June 2011 - 11:55.


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#440 Duc-Man

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 14:14

I recognise the chap on the far right of the pic by the extinguisher as he was a regular marshal at Oulton at that time and I worked with him on many occasions. I think his name was Chris.


I told you. ;)

#441 ellrosso

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 20:35

Giraffe, Guy Edwards bought out a Fittipaldi F1 car the year before as well - won at Sandown from memory. We were'nt too sure what to expect from Lees and Kennedy in the Ensign and Wolf respectively - whether they would totally blitz the F5000 guys or not. Turned out to be pretty even - Kennedy won a round at Surfers(?) I think. Was great to hear the Cosworth V8 amongst the V8's and some of the racing was very good. You may notice some of the crew in shorts and even thongs at AIR in those pit lane shots - the heat for Saturday practice was way up in the high 30's. Typical Adelaide weather and really hot work for the drivers in all their gear.

#442 elansprint72

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 21:12

Previously posted elsewhere on the forum, here is the TS5A (#14) of Trevor Taylor at Oulton Park in March 1970.

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By giraffe138 at 2011-06-11

Same decal arrangement & it looks very much like the same trog working on the car in both pics.


Just realised that I am on this photo. My profound apologies for the haircut. :rolleyes:

#443 E1pix

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 22:01

Just realised that I am on this photo. My profound apologies for the haircut. :rolleyes:

That has to be fun to see oneself from so many years ago (regardless of hair or bell bottoms!).... I find myself checking every parallel resource I can, even crowd shots.... but alas, no E1pix thus far....

There's so much hair in this shot that you certainly don't stand out.... nor would you look much different than others such as myself!

Now that you've opened this can of worms, I mean hair, some of us are pondering "Which hair belongs to Elan?" :) My guess is the tall hairdo above and left of the Cortina, now there's a look best "departed!" (answer not necessary! :) )

#444 Giraffe

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 22:03

Just realised that I am on this photo. My profound apologies for the haircut. :rolleyes:


Sorry old boy, can't spot the barnet. If you are there, that would be quite remarkable! :)

#445 ellrosso

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 10:56

Few more pics from Adelaide 1979 and 1 from Baskerville, Tas 1980
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Salt Walther McRae GM1 AIR 1979
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John Wright Lola T400 Baskerville Gold Star round 1980
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Geoff Lees Ensign MN07 AIR 1979
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John Walker Lola T332 AIR 1979

#446 elansprint72

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 12:52

Sorry old boy, can't spot the barnet. If you are there, that would be quite remarkable! :)


Sheepskin (or was it cheapskin?) jacket behind the guy in red overalls! I think I had a Midget at the time, the heater never worked too well, to turn it on/off you had to open the bonnet and turn a little brass-wheeled valve on the cylinder head.

#447 richie

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 21:36

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Who are these guys and where?

#448 Alan Cox

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 22:22

Who are these guys and where?


John Turner and Trevor Twaites in their T330s...?


Indeed, 6th September 1975. Twaites finished seventh, 5 laps adrift of winner David Purley. Turner retired.


The place: Fosters at Oulton Park

#449 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 02:09

Few more pics from Adelaide 1979 and 1 from Baskerville, Tas 1980
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Salt Walther McRae GM1 AIR 1979
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John Wright Lola T400 Baskerville Gold Star round 1980
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Geoff Lees Ensign MN07 AIR 1979
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John Walker Lola T332 AIR 1979

That is what I like to see. proffesional pit apparell !! Though I would guess it was on Friday, even then I doubt that thongs in the pit lane were approved.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 17:17

While looking for something not even closely related I found this shot ...

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Edited by cheapracer, 22 July 2011 - 17:18.