188 replies to this topic

[Barry Boor]

No! Really? Now, there's a surprise!

[alfredaustria]

Originally posted by Black Star
I've downloaded this documentary from a certain torrent site, specializing in racing torrents.

If there is enough interest here, I'll upload the program to a server and advertise the link here.
Please let me know- I have a very slow upload speed.

The program is a real jem to watch, by the way.

Best regards,
Yigal.

Hi Yigal

Yes, I would be very much interested. Regretable I cannot get BBC here in Austria.
I wish you all the best. Regards from Vienna
Cheers Alfred

[MrAerodynamicist]

If anyone is interested, I came across the tv ratings for the documentary a few days ago.

6 DAYS THAT SHOOK THE WORLD (Mon 2000) 279,000
7 GRAHAM HILL - DRIVEN (Mon 2100) 240,000
8 IN SEARCH OF SPEED (Mon 2201) 217,000

source

[Barry Boor]

I've never been able to grasp how they come up with viewing figures.

[rolf123]

I have found this on rapidshare. If anyone wants the links, please PM me.

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by Barry Boor
I've never been able to grasp how they come up with viewing figures.

My parents used to contribute data for this: back in the 80s everybody living in (or visiting) the house kept a diary of what they watched. These were sent off weekly and presumably the numbers were extrapolated upwards to give a national viewing figure: not all that scientific as far as I could see ....

[paulhooft]

Yes,
and if only..
I could have seen these documentaties,
But:
Remember:
this is good old Europe...
PcH

[flat-16]

Rolf's been very kind in directing me to the Rapidshare links, but unfortunately, they don't agree with my machine I can't get the "security" code right, so I can't download...

If anyone here could burn me off a DVD or direct me to a link that's easier than pulling teeth, I'd be mightily obliged - I do realise that's a big ask!

Cheers,
Justin

[frogeye59]

Justin,

Check your PM's.

Ta

David

[Eddie Knipe]

With the Tom Pryce Memorial Trust well into the acquiring of the necessary funding for the intended memorial to "Wales's Fastest Man" in his spiritual hometown of Rhuthun, Denbighshire in North-East Wales, I was wondering whether Mark Stewart Productions would not be interested in making a documentary relating to Tom Pryce - perhaps incorporating Tony Brise and Roger Williamson (The Lost Generation).



An independent filmaker showed an interest and wanted to contact Nella Pryce and Tom's mom who lives in a village close to Rhuthun. I had given him all the necessary details, but have not heard of any film either in the production stage or having reached completion.

Tom's story is such an amazing one that it could easily be made as a major production for the big screen. Tom's humble rise from rural Wales to the heady heights of F1 racing would not only be honouring the man, but could also serve as a lesson to all aspiring sportsman - Tom remained humble throughout his short career in F1, but his legacy lives on forever in the hearts and minds of his legion of fans, more than 30 years after his untimely and unnecessary death at Kyalami. Any aspiring or ambitious script writers out there?

PS Saw the Graham Hill production - jolly good work Mark!

[Gary C]

Steve Holter & I have been thinking about this for a stand alone 'Yesterday's Racers' disc.

[Coral]

I have the Graham Hill documentary on a DVD, I would be happy to send it to anyone who would like it.

[Two Jags]

Just watched my recording of the documentary & I'd just like to add my compliments & thanks to Messrs Stewart, Nye & all others concerned with this exceptional production.

The fact that Mrs Two Jags (a non-motor racing fan) wandered in just as I started watching it & then proceeded to sit engrossed (and silent!) through the whole programme is a rare feat indeed. Superb.

[flat-16]

Finally, I got to see the documentary last night. I cannot praise Mark Stewart Productions enough – I hope we’ll be seeing more of their work on the Beeb in the coming months.

The whole documentary struck me as being objective, unsentimental and punchy in its editing. I’m sure those with more knowledge of NGH could probably level a criticism at it, but in my eyes it was near-flawless. NGH had many hats and there would have been a lot of info to cram in; I felt that the team did a perfect job of letting the viewer draw their own conclusions where necessary, without patronising them.

If anyone here has yet to see the documentary, all I can say is that you don’t know what you’re missing.

Many thanks to a certain TNF member for sending me a DVD

It was good to have apt background music as well. Who was it? Sounded a bit like JTQ?


Justin

[flat-16]

The fact that Mrs Two Jags (a non-motor racing fan) wandered in just as I started watching it & then proceeded to sit engrossed (and silent!) through the whole programme is a rare feat indeed. Superb.

The TV execs really need to heed points such as the above. It goes to prove that, with the right application, the film-maker can satisfy both the enthusiast and non-aficionado. Quality-is-quality.



Justin

[alfredaustria]

Originally posted by Coral
I have the Graham Hill documentary on a DVD, I would be happy to send it to anyone who would like it.

Hi I am very much interested in the DVD, as I cannot get BBC here in Austria. How much do you demand for it? Thank you. Regards from Vienna - Alfred
Alfred Raidl
Hütteldorfer Strasse 297/19
1140 Wien
Austria

[Coral]

Hi Alfred, unfortunately I have no more copies of the DVD left...I had no idea they would be so popular! If the documentary comes on TV again I will make more copies. I'm really sorry...

Coral

[Gary C]

Just to bump this thread, I have it on good authority that the documentary 'Graham Hill - Driven' will be repeated once again on BBC2 on the night of the 20th of February at 7pm - to be confirmed though!

[rallen]

This was brilliant, despite being born a few years after his death - Graham Hill is one of my heros - a fantastic film! just as an aside - does anyone know if they will be contiuning the series? They have done Hill, Stewart and Clark - it would be great if they at least did some more of the UK champions. Anyone got any inside information or knowedge as to if this is likely?

[KarlLeFong]

Does it explain how Hill, the delivery van driver at BRM in 1961, got better equipment in that year than CAS Brooks?

Brooks, was at that time accepted as second only to Moss., but in 1961 we see him only perform at certain times
..Aintree, Brands Hatch Intercontential, USA F1

Nobody, in their right mind would argue that Hill was within a country mile of Brooks skill-wise, but we see the unsolved mystery at BRM in 1961
where Hill, the tradesman, was given preference over Brooks, an all time GP great.

Moss showed what could be done in 1961 .with the 1500 Climax ...why didn't Brooks?

Was he fed up with the gutless lil 1500 cars or were politics involved ?


I would like to know

Karl

[Gary C]

'got better equipment in that year than CAS Brooks?'
No, it doesn't. And there are no plans for any more programmes, either, unfortuantely.

[Amphicar]

Just to bump this thread, I have it on good authority that the documentary 'Graham Hill - Driven' will be repeated once again on BBC2 on the night of the 20th of February at 7pm - to be confirmed though!

Just to confirm that "Graham Hill - Driven" is being repeated on BBC2 at 7 pm on Sunday 20th February

[richie]

Just to confirm that "Graham Hill - Driven" is being repeated on BBC2 at 7 pm on Sunday 20th February

What a fabulous programme, a thoroughly decent bloke. High regard for him. Well researched and well done. Hats off to Doug Nye.

[bigears]

I enjoyed it and my missus joined me halfway throughout the programme and she seemed to have enjoyed it too.

[P0wderf1nger]

Third time of watching it, third time of wiping away a few tears. It's good to know that a programme of this quality can be broadcast on mainstream terrestial TV.

[Bloggsworth]

I think Buckshot had fewer chins then...

[Tardis40]

That was a really good look into what grand prix racing was like in his era. Everything about it was first rate. Great musical soundtrack!

[Barry Boor]

Most enjoyable.... again!

And pretty-well error free, wasn't it? Quite a feat for this type of programme.

Edited by Barry Boor, 21 February 2011 - 09:28.

[RTH]

'got better equipment in that year than CAS Brooks?'
No, it doesn't. And there are no plans for any more programmes, either, unfortuantely.

That is a pity because Mark Stewart and Mark Craig are on a roll here apart from the fascinating subject matter this is well made television.

[Hamish Robson]

Yes great stuff

Saw it the first time round, but well deserved a second viewing. Wife and I were enthralled for the whole hour.

[Derwent Motorsport]

I enjoyed it again.
It has always seemed odd to me that very little has been written about the aftermath of the aircrash. The effect on the Hill family and the relationship of Tony Brise's widow and her lawyer. To me it looked a bit distasteful but then it did seem to be swept under the carpet at the time.

[hogstar]

I enjoyed it again.
It has always seemed odd to me that very little has been written about the aftermath of the aircrash. The effect on the Hill family and the relationship of Tony Brise's widow and her lawyer. To me it looked a bit distasteful but then it did seem to be swept under the carpet at the time.

I have to agree that this was overlooked and should of been investigated further. I felt the documentary cherry picked the things about Hill, but with only an hour to fill, things had to be set aside. 'The Lost Generation' would make a highly interesting piece of television if it was ever given the chance, and would explain that Hill was responsible for the death of Brise and the other members of the team.

[P0wderf1nger]

I enjoyed it again.
It has always seemed odd to me that very little has been written about the aftermath of the aircrash. The effect on the Hill family and the relationship of Tony Brise's widow and her lawyer. To me it looked a bit distasteful but then it did seem to be swept under the carpet at the time.

Look upon the programme as an authorised biography. Bette, Damon and his sisters all contributed to it. Their lives were turned upside down by Graham’s death, by the plane crash being his fault, by the plane being unregistered and therefore uninsured, and by the subsequent loss of their home. If they didn’t want to say anything unpleasant about him, I don’t suppose they wanted anyone else saying anything unpleasant.

I have to say that it is to the credit not only of the Hill family but the families of the other victims that so little has been written about the aftermath.

I suspect some **** will gather up what’s already in the public domain and do a revisionist job on ‘the full story’ once Bette passes away. I shan’t buy it.

[Vitesse2]

I suspect some shit will gather up what’s already in the public domain and do a revisionist job on ‘the full story’ once Bette passes away. I shan’t buy it.

I can'T Really think of any reputable or credible writer who'd do that. But then I wouldn'T Really want to buy it either.

[P0wderf1nger]

I can'T Really think of any reputable or credible writer who'd do that. But then I wouldn'T Really want to buy it either.

;)

You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

Edited by P0wderf1nger, 21 February 2011 - 15:15.

[john winfield]

'Graham Hill - Driven' is on again in the UK tonight. BBC 4, 9.00pm, starting in about eight minutes.

[Phil Mackley]

'Graham Hill - Driven' is on again in the UK tonight. BBC 4, 9.00pm, starting in about eight minutes.

And repeated again at 12:30am.

[LittleChris]

And repeated again at 12:30am.

And, unlike previously, now on iPlayer

[richie]

What a fabulous programme, a thoroughly decent bloke. High regard for him. Well researched and well done. Hats off to Doug Nye.

I contacted Bette Hill, with a request following the programme asking for help to locate a short promo film featuring Graham and the actress Jill Ireland from 1968 and was given short shrift by her.