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#1 RAP

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 07:31

This meeting was known as the "6 hours" but rather than being an endurance race, it was a series of 1 hour races. The sports & GT races are covered at www.wsrp.ic.cz but there was also a race for 750cc racing cars. There is a photo of the start in Orsini/Zagari's book on Stanguellini. From Autosport I have found -
1. Colin Davis Cooper Norton 600cc
2. Pirocchi Stanguellini Corsa
3 Branca Moretti
4 Azario Moretti
5 Vroomen Cooper.
Can anyone provide more information on other starters and fuller results? There look to be at least 18 cars in the photo referred to. There was also a 750 Sports class but I think this was run independantly.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:57

"Bumped" in the hope of some response?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 15:31

Page 369 of the Orsini/Zagari Stanguellini book shows that there were 10 Stanguellinis (Fraschetti is shown twice) (?), and 2 of the Stanguellinis were 1100s (?), so I would assume that 8 of the cars in the 750 race were Stanguellinis. As to the 750 race shown on page 164, I am not sure of anything beyond the first row, which is listed in the caption. The Berardo Taraschi (Urania, Giaur, Taraschi) book has no further information. The book "La Sport E I Suoi Artigiani" shows only the class winners: 750cc Cabianca OSCA; 1100 Rosi OSCA; 1500cc Musso OSCA; 2 liter Starabba Ferrari 500TR

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 15:52

Thanks for your reply. The problem with the Stanguellini book is that there was BOTH a 750 Racing and 750 Sports car race. The book doesn't make it clear which of the 2 races the Stanguellinis were in. Clearly the Corsa cars 4082, 4083 and 4086 would be in the racing event but presumably most if not all the Sports would be in the Sport Car race which was won by Cabianca (Osca) from Pinazzo (Giaur) and Branca (Moretti).

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 18:10

Colin Davis said it was a "750cc Monoposto Formula" race. His first race in Italy. He settled there the following year. Left in 1976 and moved to Cape Town, ZA.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 00:38

Originally posted by Hieronymus
Colin Davis said it was a "750cc Monoposto Formula" race. His first race in Italy. He settled there the following year. Left in 1976 and moved to Cape Town, ZA.


Interesting, because some of the cars in the picture on page 164 of the Stanguellini book are clearly not monopostos. They aren't even sports cars with the fenders removed. I would post a copy of the picture, but it is copyrighted...

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:40

Originally posted by dretceterini
Interesting, because some of the cars in the picture on page 164 of the Stanguellini book are clearly not monopostos. They aren't even sports cars with the fenders removed.

Not unusual in those days - in England the same year a number of races were held for Formula 2 cars (though the formula would not officially start until 1957). Virtually all the participants in those were sportscars

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:50

Originally posted by dretceterini


Interesting, because some of the cars in the picture on page 164 of the Stanguellini book are clearly not monopostos. They aren't even sports cars with the fenders removed. I would post a copy of the picture, but it is copyrighted...


Can you please perhaps email me a copy of this photo. I would like to show it to Colin.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 16:22

I have sent you a link to the photo of the grid, plus I divided the photo into 2 halves for better clarity, and sent through your e-mail address attached to this forum. Sorry for the poor quality, but I have blown it up as much as I can from the copy in the book.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 16:27

Originally posted by David McKinney

Not unusual in those days - in England the same year a number of races were held for Formula 2 cars (though the formula would not officially start until 1957). Virtually all the participants in those were sportscars


David:
Yes, I understand that, but why didn't they simply have one race for all 750cc cars, rather than a seperate 750 sportscar race and a seperate 750 Corsa race, when the same cars would be entered in both races?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 16:58

Point taken
But again, they did the same thing with the 1956 British F2 races - the 1500 Lotus XIs and bob-tailed Coopers ran in their own sportscar race, and also in the F2 race (which often contained only one single-seater)

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 19:41

Racing as sport rather than a system for marketing and promotion. What a novel concept! :)

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:46

Perhaps the reason for two races was because there were two championships. The sports championship would have required use of pump fuel whilst the racing car championship might have allowed greater freedom. I remember that around this time there was a big debate in UK 500cc racing about whether the class should in future be restricted to pump fuel and as Davis was in a Cooper in the Racing car even this tends to point to use of free fuel. As has been said, many of the cars in the racing championship would have been used in both classes. If they were run together the entrant would have had to decide whether to use pump fuel and be at a disadvantage in the racing class or "jungle juice" and be inelligible for the sports points. Two races allowed them to switch? Just a theory.....

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 10:15

Originally posted by dretceterini
I have sent you a link to the photo of the grid, plus I divided the photo into 2 halves for better clarity, and sent through your e-mail address attached to this forum. Sorry for the poor quality, but I have blown it up as much as I can from the copy in the book.

Regards,
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Many thanks, Stu.

I'll show Colin the photo and ask for his comments. If you chaps have any other question for Colin, please let me know.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 11:40

Colin's move to Italy in the late 1950s was not a normal career move (unless you had a contract with Ferrari!). Whilst I can readily appreciate the attractions of the weather and life style, it would be interesting to hear Colin's reasons for his move and how he got established within the Italian racing community. In fact, I'm sure any recollections would be fascinating...

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 17:33

RAP

I think I can answer that one. I think the Castelfusano victory was indirectly the reason for his move to Italy. It was witnessed by the Maserati brothers that offered him a test in their OSCA cars in early 1957. Unfortunately Fon de Portago's fatal crash and its aftermath put a spanner in the works. It was only in September 1957 he could drive an OSCA for the first time. Winning in Siracuse.

I'll ask again, though.

Interesting to note that Colin was well on his way becoming a pilot in the RAF after he left school, when his career was cut short due to chronic ear and sinus problems.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 17:44

He was still racing in Europe for many years after that, Heiro (unless he was commuting from SA?)

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 18:12

Yes, David, I know.

I compiled a record of all Colin's races some years ago. With his help. I think we got it more than 95% accurate. Personally, I feel that he has been very much neglected by the British press. Can't recall ever reading an article of him in a British motorsport publication.

He is such a fascinating, modest man. Perhaps one of you talented writers in the UK can do justice in compiling a nice essay on his racing career.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 19:31

Originally posted by dretceterini
Page 369 of the Orsini/Zagari Stanguellini book shows that there were 10 Stanguellinis (Fraschetti is shown twice) (?), and 2 of the Stanguellinis were 1100s (?), so I would assume that 8 of the cars in the 750 race were Stanguellinis.


Page 228 of the Orsini/Zagari OSCA book shows the start of the combined 1100/1500 sportscar race, and Cabianca as having won the 750 race and third in the 1500.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 22:07

Page 228 of the Orsini/Zagari OSCA book shows the start of the combined 1100/1500 sportscar race, and Cabianca as having won the 750 race and third in the 1500.


Full results according to autoitaliana were

Gran turismo 750cc:

1. Foltronieri Fiat Abarth Z
2. Bellini, Fiat Abarth Z
3. Balzarini, Fiat Abarth Vignale
4. Munaron, Fiat Abarth Vignale
5. Bocchio, Fiat Abarth Z

Turismo Speciale 750cc:

1. Costantini, Fiat Z
2. Matteucci, Fiat 600

Turismo Normale 750cc:

1. Vittorio Gianni, Fiat 600
2. Avventurieri, Fiat 600
3. Rota, Dyna Panhard
4. de Rossi, Fiat 600
5. Collonna, Fiat 600
6. Risetti, Fiat 600
7. Brichetti, Dyna Panhard

RACE 2. TURISMO NORMALE
up to 1300cc:

1. Ciolfi, Giulietta
2. Superti, Giulietta
3. Santucci, Fiat TV
4. Colantonio, Fiat TV
5. Costa, Fiat 1100/103

above 1300cc:

1. Morolli, Alfa 1900
2. "Pegaso", Alfa 1900
3. Leto di Priolo, Alfa 1900
4, Pandolfo, Alfa 1900

3rd Race GRAN TURISMO 1300, TURISMO SPECIALE 1300, GRAN TURISMO 2000:

Up to 2000cc:

1. Morolli, Maserati
2. Scarfiotti, Fiat 8V
3. Leto di Priolo, Fiat 8VZ
4. Ribaldi, Maserati

Up to 1300 cc:

1. Jo Bonnier, Alfa SV
2. Molteni, "
3. Buzzetti, "
4. Milanesi, "
5. Ligabue, "
6. Lodovici, "

Turismo Speciale:

1. Cavallini, Alfa SV
2. Nataloni, Lancia Appia


Race 4. Categoria Corsa. classe 750cc:

1. Colin, Cooper
2. Pirocchi, Stanguellini
3. Branca, Moretti
4, Azario, Moretti
5, Wroomen, Cooper
6. Loens, Loweno
7.Latchford, Cooper
8.Valenti, Pasqualini
9.Di Napi, Stanguellini

Here we have 5. Stanguellini, 6 Coopers, 1 Cooper-Norton, 4 Giaur, 1 Lowens, 1 Faranda, 3 Moretti, 1 Panhard..

results 750cc:
1. Colin, Cooper
2. Pirocchi, Stanguellini
3. Branca, Moretti
4. Azario, Moretti
5. Wroomen, Cooper
6. Loens, Loweno
7. Latchford, Cooper
8. Valenti, Pasqualini
9. Di Napi, Stanguellini

5th RACE GRAN TURISMO ABOVE 2000cc AND SPORT UP TO 2000cc.

sport up to 2000cc

1. Behra, Maserati
2. Schell, Maserati
3. Frere, Ferrari
4. Starabba, Ferrari TR
5. Cortese, Ferrari TR
6. Bonnier, Maserati
7. Lopez, Maserati
8. Munaron, Ferrari TR

Granturismo above 2000cc

1. de Portago, Ferrari
2. Luglio, Ferrari
3. Musso, Mercedes

6th Race CATEGORIA SPORT, CORSA 750

1. Cabianca, OSCA
2. Tinazzo, Giaur
3. Branca, Moretti
4. Capelli, OSCA
5. Lippi, Stanguellini
6. Laureati, OSCA
7. Cecchini, Stanguellini
8. Brachetti, Giaur
9. Bandini, Bandini

7th Race CORSA 1100 SPORT AND 1500 SPORT

SPORT UP TO 1500CC:
1. Musso, OSCA
2. Briaan, Lotus
3. Cabianca, OSCA
4. Bonnier, Maserati

up to 1100cc.
1. Frazer, Lotus
2. Piper, Lotus
3. Rossi, OSCA
4. Owen, Cooper
5. Bernabei, OSCA
7. de Roberto, OSCA
8. Gramegna, OSCA
9. Peduzzi, Stanguellini
10. Bini, OSCA
11. Falli, OSCA

PHEW... I have to get a scanner..

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