British GP in 1978 ? Lauda and Reutemann vs. Giacomelli
#1
Posted 23 June 2007 - 19:20
How do you see this? In my point of view Niki would be overtaken by Carlos anyway.
#3
Posted 24 June 2007 - 08:16
#4
Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:12
#5
Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:23
#6
Posted 24 June 2007 - 12:38
#7
Posted 24 June 2007 - 17:02
Numerous drivers 'might' have won, but for problems. One being Alan Jones who, IIRC, was running really well in the first Patrick Head Williams.
As to the details surrounding The Pass, Bruno just had nowhere to go, so that's where he went - nowhere, Lauda guessed wrong and Lole was away. I suspect the Ferrari would have passed Niki anyway, but that's just conjecture.
#8
Posted 25 June 2007 - 07:48
Originally posted by COUGAR508
That's the first decent footage I've seen from that race. It looked like Lauda did hesitate slightly, and Lole just took his opportunity.
Agree.
Seems to me Niki Lauda tried to overtake Jack O'Malley ( ) in the wrong way (the left side) and Lole Reutemann passed him in the correct way (the right side, in a right bend).
#9
Posted 25 June 2007 - 17:45
Originally posted by Barry Boor
Although I only attended Brands for the practice days, I recall it was an odd race.
Numerous drivers 'might' have won, but for problems. One being Alan Jones who, IIRC, was running really well in the first Patrick Head Williams.
As to the details surrounding The Pass, Bruno just had nowhere to go, so that's where he went - nowhere, Lauda guessed wrong and Lole was away. I suspect the Ferrari would have passed Niki anyway, but that's just conjecture.
Barry is quite correct with regards to the number of drivers who could have won the race.
For that reason I can remember the race being hugely entertaining. Everybody expected Peterson and Andretti to drive off into the distance, however when they both retired the whole race took on a new perspective.
With regards to the Giacomelli incident, I may be wrong but wasn't there a picture taken from the inside of Clearways clearly showing him waving Lauda through?
Looking at the video of the race don't the cars look fantastic getting out of shape at the bottom of Paddock Bend?
#10
Posted 25 June 2007 - 19:54
#11
Posted 05 August 2007 - 10:44
Originally posted by bigears
I have seen a better angle somewhere, I will keep looking and hopefully it will help this thread.
And?
#12
Posted 06 August 2007 - 16:40
#13
Posted 06 August 2007 - 16:43
Originally posted by Stephen W
However Lauda would definately have been passed sooner rather than later as Reutemann was having one of his "on-days".
I think so too!
#14
Posted 06 August 2007 - 20:28
Originally posted by Stephen W
However Lauda would definately have been passed sooner rather than later as Reutemann was having one of his "on-days".
Lole's "on-days" did not come that often, but when they did he was simply unstoppable. I thinking of Austria and Watkins Glen in '74, where he just drove off into the distance.
As regards '78, it is often overlooked that Carlos won four races that year. It has sometimes been said that it was one of his happiest years in F1, with Lauda gone and the non-political Villeneuve as team-mate. And the '78 Ferrari was an absolutely beautiful car.
#15
Posted 06 August 2007 - 21:04
#16
Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:16
Originally posted by COUGAR508
Lole's "on-days" did not come that often, but when they did he was simply unstoppable. I thinking of Austria and Watkins Glen in '74, where he just drove off into the distance.
As regards '78, it is often overlooked that Carlos won four races that year. It has sometimes been said that it was one of his happiest years in F1, with Lauda gone and the non-political Villeneuve as team-mate. And the '78 Ferrari was an absolutely beautiful car.
Or Monaco 1980
http://www.youtube.c...ciI#GU5U2spHI_4
http://www.youtube.c...RZQ#GU5U2spHI_4
#17
Posted 18 August 2007 - 10:32
Originally posted by bigears
I have seen a better angle somewhere, I will keep looking and hopefully it will help this thread.
I have found this
#18
Posted 18 August 2007 - 16:04
Thank you Stefan for pointing out the angle I am exactly looking for.
#19
Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:29
There is a magnificent painting by Michael Turner depitting the move.
The race had seven world champions or future champions namely Emerson Fittipaldi, Niki Lauda, James Hunt, Mario Andretti, Jody Scheckter, Alan Jones and Keke Rosberg as well as Ronnie Peterson and Gilles Villeneuve. This was only bettered by the next race German Grand Prix with Nelson Piquet joining in.
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#20
Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:20
#21
Posted 26 January 2011 - 13:12
#22
Posted 26 January 2011 - 13:34
Niki Lauda was furious about the Giacomelli incident afterwards, but one can only wonder why, when he was capable of the speed he showed in the last six laps, he had allowed Reutemann to get close enough to take advantage of it.
#23
Posted 26 January 2011 - 15:27
Numerous drivers 'might' have won, but for problems. One being Alan Jones who, IIRC, was running really well in the first Patrick Head Williams.
Barry is quite correct with regards to the number of drivers who could have won the race.
For that reason I can remember the race being hugely entertaining. Everybody expected Peterson and Andretti to drive off into the distance, however when they both retired the whole race took on a new perspective.
In fact Peterson & Andretti did "drive off into the distance" but the Lotus 79 proved fragile and both retired.
If Lauda had anyone to be angry at it would have been himself for making such a rudimentary mistake in letting El Lole close in as he did.