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[MKIVJ6]

Cool video including footage of a car I now own 0854:

http://video.google....earch&plindex=0

[Andrew Kitson]

Great stuff thanks! I've seen other film of this race but never this BOAC one, what a find!

[MKIVJ6]

I love 0854's transporter!

[sterling49]

What a great video, the traffic in London actually moving

Great days, I was at the race, what a great atmosphere for a 14 year old, the BOAC 500, all the world class drivers and top cars, in Fawkham!

Bravo!

[fuzzi]

I was there too. It was a great race - no messing about with supporting events, just straight into the real thing. The grand prix drivers went like stink in some unfamiliar cars and it was interesting to see how they matched up to the established sports-car aces. I can still vividly remember Jackie Stewart spinning the Ferrari along the straight having got out of shape coming out of South Bank bend.

I was lucky enough to get Phil Hill's autograph at Goodwood a couple of years ago when the Chaparral Team brought over the 2F and 2G.

I got Jim Hall's autograph too, a great designer and a helluva driver. It was hero time that day.

[David McKinney]

Originally posted by sterling49
What a great video, the traffic in London actually moving

A bit mystified by his route though - Parliament Square, over Tower Bridge - then through the Blackwall tunnel?

[sterling49]

Originally posted by David McKinney

A bit mystified by his route though - Parliament Square, over Tower Bridge - then through the Blackwall tunnel?

I thought the same too!

[Doug Nye]

Strange. I don't see one of David Piper's Ferrari replicas anywhere in that well-known contemporary footage.

DCN

[MKIVJ6]

Originally posted by Doug Nye
Strange. I don't see one of David Piper's Ferrari replicas anywhere in that well-known contemporary footage.

DCN

Perhaps as when you rode in it, it was incorrectly fitted with 0858's Spyder Tail you didn't recognise it, but it's there. The red one with the blue bottom on the open trailer. It was a coupe at that time.

[Doug Nye]

Oh of course - I really must apologise - you once made so much fuss about the wobbly one I forget you now have a proper one as well...

DCN

[MKIVJ6]

Originally posted by Doug Nye
Oh of course - I really must apologise - you once made so much fuss about the wobbly one I forget you now have a proper one as well...

DCN

No Problem.

Best Regards

[Hse289]

Wow, great film i enjoyed that, especially Dibley in the Cobra at the beginning.

[colinc]

I've just realised this must be the BOAC 500 I went to as a teenager, as it seems to be the only one the Chaparral appeared at.
What a piece of nostalgia, thanks for posting it.

Going OT a bit, I remember seeing a sports car race at Brands which featured a car with some sort of turbine engine - can anyone remember what / when it might have been. (Must have been late 60s / early 70s).

[sterling49]

Originally posted by colinc
I've just realised this must be the BOAC 500 I went to as a teenager, as it seems to be the only one the Chaparral appeared at.
What a piece of nostalgia, thanks for posting it.

Going OT a bit, I remember seeing a sports car race at Brands which featured a car with some sort of turbine engine - can anyone remember what / when it might have been. (Must have been late 60s / early 70s).

The Howmet TX...I think it was at the same race and was at Goodwood last week......memories!

[D-Type]

Originally posted by sterling49


The Howmet TX...I think it was at the same race and was at Goodwood last week......memories!

A 'Search BB' turned up this thread about the Howmet plus others.

[colinc]

Thanks chaps - it looks like it must have been the Howmet.
racing-database.com says it was at the 1968 BOAC 500, not the 1967 one, so I must have gone to both races, but I always think I only went to one.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by colinc
............it was at the 1968 BOAC 500, not the 1967 one, so I must have gone to both races, but I always think I only went to one.

Your memory is obviously as good as mine........a sign of the passing of time Colin!!! :smoking:I attended both races also.....it gets confusing!

[Fred Gallagher]

I was 15 and went with a mate from the slot racing club in Belfast!

We took the boat from Belfast to Heysham and then the train to London. We stayed with a friend of my mum's in Leatherhead. She arranged with us to have a trip round Brabham's in Guildford!

We also went to Grand Prix Model Raceways where I bought a 1/24th wing kit for a Chaparral. Hap Sharp signed it in Humbrol enamel and I found it just the other day. It was also the first time I ever took slides - not voluntarily but the shop had nothing else in stock.

Fred

[Paul Parker]

I too attended and had a track pass, in fact I drove a film crew back (might have been CBS or somebody like that, it's 40 years ago, gulp!) to Heathrow after the race to get footage to America for I think the Ed Sullivan show.

I can recall that Amon and Stewart were identically quick, but they were out qualified by their lesser team mates who included Peter Sutcliffe, Paul Hawkins and Gunther Klass. I can also recall being in the pits when the Maranello Concessionaires pit crew smashed out the side screens of the aforesaid 330P3/412P(0854) presumably due to heat and/or fumes getting into the cockpit.

Where is Hugh Dibley now? Is he still involved with flight simulators somewhere in France was it or is my memory on default mode.

[RS2000]

I was there in 67 and 68 but all I can recall of the Howmet is it ending up in the bank at Clearways...

[sterling49]

Originally posted by RS2000
I was there in 67 and 68 but all I can recall of the Howmet is it ending up in the bank at Clearways...

Thanks for reminding me.....amazing what escapes my memory with the elapse of time.......the '68 race won by Ickx and Oliver in the Gulf GT40.....IIRC !!!!

[jph]

Originally posted by RS2000:
I was there in 67 and 68 but all I can recall of the Howmet is it ending up in the bank at Clearways...

I thought it was Druids? Dick Thompson put the Mirage into the bank at Clearways in '67, I think. The '67 race had an amzing cast of drivers and cars and was responsible for getting me hooked on long distance sports car racing.

The '68 race was, of course, overshadowed by the fact that only one Ford P68 took the start. The nominated drivers of the other car went to Hockenheim instead... And wasn't the race actually won by Ickx and Redman?

[RS2000]

I don't recall moving from Druids in 67 and I wasn't attacked by a Howmet. Maybe I did move later but I only recall moving around the track in 68. Who was it put a Porsche on top of or over the barrier on the right before Bottom Bend in 67 or 68?
This photo sums up the ending era - pull your Elan a couple of feet off the road, lift the bonnet, have a poke around the engine whilst the fastest sports racing cars in the world go by and not have any official or marshal take the slightest notice.

[RS2000]

No, it's not a rally, it's the 1967 BOAC 500....

[RS2000]

I guess if you're going to face large speed differentials, Druids was the best place to face it...

[Tim Murray]

Originally posted by RS2000
I don't recall moving from Druids in 67 and I wasn't attacked by a Howmet.

Quite so. The Howmet ran in the '68 race.

[jph]

Originally posted by RS2000:
I don't recall moving from Druids in 67 and I wasn't attacked by a Howmet.

You'd have had to hang around at Druids for quite a long time - the Howmet ran in '68, not '67. Of course, it was Dick Thompson who stuffed both the Mirage in '67 and the Howmet in '68. Don't recall the Porsche incident that you mention, though judging by the reasons for retirement listed in TATS, maybe it was the Van Lennep / Pon 910 in 1968? In terms of accidents at Bottom Bend, however, what really does stick in the mind is Jo Bonnier carthwheeling the T70 in 1969.

Great phots of the '67 race.

[sterling49]

The black and white photos give such a taste of the atmosphere at Brands, Lotus Elans and Squealey's mixing it with seriously fast Ferraris and Fords.....I think that Ben Pon had his 910 in the Dutch racing colours of Orange and I also thought he crashed out on the Portobello Straight........amazing what the passing of 40 years does to the memory.....so enjoyable reading this thread....I watched the Ilford Films 500 mile the year before and a few of the Motor "ETC" 6 hour races....great to wander around the track and watch different tactics over the race (and the Ferrari pit stops!!!)

I have listened to the Historics at Brands today from home....lots of serious Pedro type weather out there today in the Garden of England!!!!

And yes, it was Redman and not Oliver in the winning GT40

[Carlos Guerra]

Originally posted by RS2000
... This photo sums up the ending era - pull your Elan a couple of feet off the road, lift the bonnet, have a poke around the engine whilst the fastest sports racing cars in the world go by and not have any official or marshal take the slightest notice.

It looks like Keith Burnand faced a lot of trouble at the '67 BOAC 500.
Note the delicious Pierce Magna wheels on the rear.


Picture from a Chris Harvey Lotus GT & sportscars book

[RS2000]

One final poor quality amateur photo with low-spec camera. Lap1?

[sterling49]

Originally posted by RS2000
One final poor quality amateur photo with low-spec camera. Lap1?

If we could turn back time.....the timeless beauty of the 330 P4, and the banzai wail that those 12 Italian cylinders made, contrasting to the Generals auto shifting, rumbling V-8. Spectating at that time, one is completely unaware that they were very special days, everything at a young age, only ever seemed to improve..........

Good to see the F3L at Goodwood last week, just an intervening 40 years since the last time!

[MKIVJ6]

Wonderful Photo!!

[MKIVJ6]

0854's coupe tail as raced at The BOAC 500 which we're refitting.


Shot at 2007-06-30

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

The Healey is the Worswick / Clark car , non classified .

[P4Replica]

Originally posted by MKIVJ6 Shot at 2007-06-30

Sorry, Jim .... I don't understand what you meant by that date. Surely you meant 2005-04-19 ?



Link back to previous 0854 thread on T.N.F. from May, 2005 : http://forums.autosp...&threadid=78794

[MKIVJ6]

Hi

That's a date image shack puts on when they host it.

Best

[P4Replica]

Originally posted by MKIVJ6 That's a date image shack puts on when they host it.

Ah. O.K. - Thanks.;) (I'd presumed both shots were taken at McCaw's prior to shipping to NY).

[MKIVJ6]

Hi

Yes.

Best

[Bruno]

Originally posted by RS2000
One final poor quality amateur photo with low-spec camera. Lap1?

Tanks


the pics Amateur, are often more beautiful and reflettent the true values much better
les photos Amateur, refletent bien souvent beaucoup mieux les vraies valeurs, les vraies dimensions et donnent un point de vue plus réaliste.

[h4887]

Originally posted by RS2000
I don't recall moving from Druids in 67 and I wasn't attacked by a Howmet. Maybe I did move later but I only recall moving around the track in 68. Who was it put a Porsche on top of or over the barrier on the right before Bottom Bend in 67 or 68?
This photo sums up the ending era - pull your Elan a couple of feet off the road, lift the bonnet, have a poke around the engine whilst the fastest sports racing cars in the world go by and not have any official or marshal take the slightest notice.

I reckon I must be in that photo - I don't remember you though!

[Scuderia SSS]

I wont start posting pictures of 0854. Its like an addiction to me now.
What car!

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Scuderia SSS
I wont start posting pictures of 0854. Its like an addiction to me now.
What car!

Go on! I dare you.......they would be well received!!!!


Sterling

[Scuderia SSS]

I'd love to, but not owning the copyright (strangely enough,considering my collection) of any 0854 pics, i wouldnt want to annoy the mods, and some of the photos have been trusted to me on good faith. I wouldnt want to ruin that trust.
Jim saw a couple of examples of my photos at Goodwood. Truly an exceptional car

[Doug Nye]

Allow me...



Photo copyright: The GP Library

[sterling49]

Stunning! Attwood/Piper? Thanks Doug...........just passing another old favourite the Carrera 6.

The view from there is so different now, and not for the better

[Doug Nye]

Photo Copyright: Jabby Crombac/The GP Library

Isn't this photo posting EASY!

DCN

[Scuderia SSS]

Originally posted by Doug Nye

Isn't this photo posting EASY!

DCN [/B]

Indeed, but as we have said in the past Doug, and after your particular wishes to me, not to host pictures of any great size, without express permission from yourself, i declined the temptation.
Besides, you have better access than me.

[sterling49]

Great grid shot, it seems like only yesterday! Is that John Bolster in the Deerstalker with back to camera? I just love the old Firestone scoreboard, no "static at all" (digital interference) although sometimes the operators did get confused. The Ferraris look great Thanks for photos.


Sterling

[Andrew Kitson]

As you said last week Sterling, what is missing at Brands these days are the advertising hoardings on south bank and down the hill from Druids. It all looks very tidy, but a bit empty!

[bradbury west]

Originally posted by sterling49
Great grid shot, it seems like only yesterday! Is that John Bolster in the Deerstalker with back to camera? Thanks for photos.
Sterling

Looks like the sort of hat that Pedro used to wear, IIRC.

Roger Lund