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Whereabouts of the Tyrrell P34s?


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#1 Gary C

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 19:52

Just thinking out loud ; I know of the three 1977 cars ; Simon Bull has chassis 6, Mauro Pane has another (chassis 5?) and there is another at the Donington Collection. I'm at a loss to think of the whereabouts of the 1976 cars. I was told that the car that Donington were going to buy from Tamiya in Japan was a 76 car, but I'm reliably informed that the car that they do have is a 77 car.
Any ideas anyone?

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#2 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:02

The Tamiya P34 is shown in many Tamiya catalogues in 76 config.

Have a look on this site: http://www.bigbigpla...pan/day10_1.php

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 01:38

A fellow in Sweden, Tobias Johnsson, has been accumulating the whereabouts of various F1 cars, including Tyrrells. I, along with others, have been helping with Tyrrells, and at last look, we thought the P34's looked like this:

P34/1--Sinsheim Auto Museum, Germany
P34/2--Tamiya Museum, Japan
P34/3--??
P34/4--??
P34/5--Petro Ratti/Mauro Pane dr.
P34/6--Simon Bull
P34/7--RM Motorsports, USA

Of course, in trying to track down the whereabouts of all the Tyrrell cars, we have only found 65+ of the 120-ish built (it gets a little messy depending on how you count the 020 revisions...).

#4 Gary C

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 10:34

Hmmmm, that list poses a few questions. Namely, if the last three chassis are 1977 cars (is that correct?), is the car in the US a runner? Plus, what chassis number is the car at Donington, as that appears to be a 77 car too. Were one (or even both) of the missing chassis modified into 1977 cars?

#5 Kanzo

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 11:42

I saw a 1976 P34 in Musee de l`Automobile in Moulins a couple of years ago but I don´t know if it´s there anymore.

#6 Thundersport

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 15:45

Where's Allen Brown?

#7 ralt12

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 16:05

The car in the States is not a runner; it was a test mule and was at one point fitted with turbo Renault power (according to the owner). He has not fitted suspension and can make either an early car or a wide-track car, and hasn't decided on a particular configuration.

#8 Allen Brown

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 11:33

Originally posted by Thundersport
Where's Allen Brown?

Here I am, late as usual.

P34/3 and P34/4 don't exist any more - clues to the reason here and here. Last I heard, an eighth car was being built from an original but incomplete and therefore unused tub.

Allen

#9 tobbe j

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 14:33

The P34-7 is in Japan it is not the RM car.

The RM car is the "-8" the car built from original parts, and it is near completed and maybe race this year ore the next. (And I know it is wrong to call it -8) And its not ownd by RM today.
And it was never fitted whit an engine in 77"

Is it not -5 in Donington? the owner is not Ratti -5?, am told

#10 Thundersport

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 14:55

Ps Allen is "Driftwood" on this thread?

#11 Gary C

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 19:08

would they 'new build' chassis 8 be the Bud Bennett car? Simon Bull told me about 5 years ago that he was building up a car from new un-used parts, including an original tub.

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 20:03

Yes "-8" was Bud car
And I think that the Donington car is -5 but I can be wrong on this

#13 MattFoster

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 22:40

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Here I am, late as usual.

P34/3 and P34/4 don't exist any more - clues to the reason here and here. Last I heard, an eighth car was being built from an original but incomplete and therefore unused tub.

Allen


I would take it then that both of these were too badly damaged after Interlagos 77 and scrapped?

#14 tobbe j

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 05:08

I came just remember there are also a P34 –76” on a exhibition in Japan for some year ago along with some other Tyrrell. (I thought almost that there wher from Stoddart)


Originally posted by Kanzo
I saw a 1976 P34 in Musee de l`Automobile in Moulins a couple of years ago but I don´t know if it´s there anymore.


Kanzo do you remember if it existed some Japanese on the side of the P34 in Moulins

#15 Bruno

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 05:27

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos
The Tamiya P34 is shown in many Tamiya catalogues in 76 config.

Have a look on this site: http://www.bigbigpla...pan/day10_1.php




http://s7.photobucke...yrrellP34-2.jpg


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#16 Kanzo

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 07:31

Kanzo do you remember if it existed some Japanese on the side of the P34 in Moulins [/B]


Sorry, it was Mougins of course, not Moulins. I visited the place about five years ago and took some great photos but unluckily my camera back was stolen in Milan and I never got to see those photos. :|

The museum was very quiet and there were no Japanese spying that P34 - maybe they broke into the place at night. :p

I searched the web and found photos of the place from Feb05. IIRC the P34 was on the stand you can see in the 2nd pic alongside that Renault you can see in the background. Anyway, it´s a great place to visit (a little hard to find, though.)

#17 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 16:49

Donington 30/9/2007: I took a picture, did not check the chassis plate, sorry :|

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#18 tobbe j

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 18:31

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos
Donington 30/9/2007: I took a picture, did not check the chassis plate, sorry :|

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Almost four Tyrrell´s in one pix, 003, 006-2, P34-5 and 007-4

#19 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 15:08

Anyone in the know where the DC P34 has gone? Was it at Goodwood?

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#20 Red Socks

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 15:57

would they 'new build' chassis 8 be the Bud Bennett car? Simon Bull told me about 5 years ago that he was building up a car from new un-used parts, including an original tub.


Now built up and being run by Rudy Junco in the US-Monterey in two weeks time.


#21 Gary C

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 16:19

any pics yet ?

#22 Wouter Melissen

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 17:06

any pics yet ?

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At the 2008 Monterey Historic Races

#23 Wouter Melissen

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 17:15

Their story was that P34/8 was to be used for a test with the Renault turbo engine, which in the end did not happen.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 22:50

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At the 2008 Monterey Historic Races


Gosh ! Fab pic brings back great memories of Jody wheeling his with the bigger cockpit window to 2nd place at the Nurburgring in 1976 :-) Thanks for sharing :-)