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#5651 D-Type

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:33

Thanks for the info. I will take a look at my local branch!

I hope you have more luck than me.
They never seem to have any of them in any of my local branches - Croydon, Sutton, Redhill, Crawley, etc. :mad:
Ditto for the Poundland ones.

I wonder ... Is there scope for people to volunteer to buy a handful when they see them - I mean take orders, not buy on spec.

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#5652 bradbury west

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 16:23

We are familiar with Norman's photo contributions here, but has anyone come across his Lotus photo album below? How much is '60s period material etc and how much later modern historics?
http://www.amazon.co...o/dp/1882256840
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#5653 David McKinney

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 17:29

Well, the front picture's certainly a 'modern' one (M W Green, if I'm not very much mistaken)

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 18:44

Not much gets past you, David......... hence my question. I suspect Alan Cox will know all about it.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 20:16

I hope you have more luck than me.
They never seem to have any of them in any of my local branches - Croydon, Sutton, Redhill, Crawley, etc. :mad:


I'll eat my words. I looked in the Croydon branch of The Works and they've re-stocked. :eek:
I walked out with Fast Lady by Joy Rainey (99p), Freddie Dixon, The man with the heart of a lion by David Mason (£1.99) and Gilles Villeneuve, A photographic portrait by Quentin Spurring and Nigel Roebuck (£2.99). This week's budget didn't run to any of the others. As there's only 3 or 4 copies of each, i hope they're there next week!

Don't go looking for the 911 Haynes workshop manual though - it's one of a series of metal decorative plaques of manual covers

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:35

We are familiar with Norman's photo contributions here, but has anyone come across his Lotus photo album below? How much is '60s period material etc and how much later modern historics?
http://www.amazon.co...o/dp/1882256840
Roger Lund



Roger

MOSTLY period photos of varying quality!! Some 'modern' from historic meetings--interesting because we are talking of historic meetings of the 80s!!
Lots of paddock pics (lawn!) and from lesser events. And pics from drivers -famous and not so famous ones.

Regards Michael

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:25

I'll eat my words. I looked in the Croydon branch of The Works and they've re-stocked. :eek:
I walked out with Fast Lady by Joy Rainey (99p), Freddie Dixon, The man with the heart of a lion by David Mason (£1.99) and Gilles Villeneuve, A photographic portrait by Quentin Spurring and Nigel Roebuck (£2.99). This week's budget didn't run to any of the others. As there's only 3 or 4 copies of each, i hope they're there next week!

Don't go looking for the 911 Haynes workshop manual though - it's one of a series of metal decorative plaques of manual covers

And the Didcot branch also had all those titles mentioned above, plus the 'Official Formula 1 Review 2008' for £1.99. Unfortunately they didn't have the Freddie Dixon book so I shall try the branch in Reading this weekend and hopefully pick up a copy. Makes you wonder how Haynes can remain profitable selling their books at 85-90% discounts...

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:29

And the Didcot branch also had all those titles mentioned above, plus the 'Official Formula 1 Review 2008' for £1.99. Unfortunately they didn't have the Freddie Dixon book so I shall try the branch in Reading this weekend and hopefully pick up a copy. Makes you wonder how Haynes can remain profitable selling their books at 85-90% discounts...

The Milton Keynes branch also has the Villeneuve book at £2.99 as well as shrink wrapped copies of Roebuck's 'Chasing The Title' for £3.99. Like others, i have never found anything in Poundland apart from licqourice allsorts and Toblerone bars. :cool:

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:04

The Milton Keynes branch also has the Villeneuve book at £2.99 as well as shrink wrapped copies of Roebuck's 'Chasing The Title' for £3.99. Like others, i have never found anything in Poundland apart from licqourice allsorts and Toblerone bars. :cool:


I've more or less given up looking, the manager of my local branch clearly isn't a car enthusiast, they never have any of the items mentioned on this thread. Your liquorice report is interesting though, I'm an addict. I'm not too keen on chocolate, and my wife gave up Toblerone after two time-wasting encounters with Swiss customs a couple of years ago. We never discovered what they suspected we might be trying to smuggle into and later out of their Country, they went unsmilingly through the car's boot both times. Switzerland has some nice scenery, but the inhabitants don't deserve it.


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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:35

The Milton Keynes branch also has the Villeneuve book at £2.99 as well as shrink wrapped copies of Roebuck's 'Chasing The Title' for £3.99. Like others, i have never found anything in Poundland apart from licqourice allsorts and Toblerone bars. :cool:


What? You mean you can move in yours without being greeted by fishing DVD's at every turn? Might visit my nearest Works today, though granted Glenrothes didn't have much the last time.

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 16:28

The Works (Shrewsbury branch) had the other day:

The Science of Safety - David Tremayne £1.99
My Life Full of Cars - Paul Frere £1.99
Fast Lady - Joy Rainey £1.99
Murray Walker, The Very Last Word - Christopher Hilton (Paperback) £0.59


Thank you for the tip-off! I went to my local branch today (Durham), and bought Frere's autobiography, plus the 2006 and 2008 official F1 annuals, for a total of £6.97.


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Posted 11 February 2011 - 18:36

Thank you for the tip-off! I went to my local branch today (Durham), and bought Frere's autobiography, plus the 2006 and 2008 official F1 annuals, for a total of £6.97.


Cost me £2.99 for Paul Frere's book in the Exeter branch. They seemed to have a few copies of most of the other books mentioned as well

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:51

The Hemel Hempstead brach is incredibly well stocked with books and even includes a Haynes "Classic Cutaway" book and in the DVD section I picked up "Enzo Ferrari & the histoirc race" which is a 45 minute "dramatic story of the 1951 British Granp Prix at Silverstone" which I know was one of the first races my late father saw and was won by his hero Froilan Gonzalez - best 99p I've ever spent!!

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:08

The Hemel Hempstead brach is incredibly well stocked with books and even includes a Haynes "Classic Cutaway" book and in the DVD section I picked up "Enzo Ferrari & the histoirc race" which is a 45 minute "dramatic story of the 1951 British Granp Prix at Silverstone" which I know was one of the first races my late father saw and was won by his hero Froilan Gonzalez - best 99p I've ever spent!!

I made the mistake of buying that DVD a couple of years ago and have watched it only once!. Full of expert analysis from people who werent at the race. At 99p I would say that it was overpriced!. :down:

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 22:03

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After my disaster a few months ago, you'd have thought I'd have learned, but Poundland offering a DVD on Michael Schumacher was too good to resist.

Except, of course, I return to find out it's equally bad, only saved from getting the lowest score by a someone giving it 5 stars. I also got a Lewis Hamilton book there by a certain AVDB.

Anyway, I hadn't really went to Glenrothes to go to Poundland, but the Works was like others have said, very well stocked in Motorsport books and ended up spending about £20, on most of the books mentioned above, though my branch was without Fast Lady.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:37

I made the mistake of buying that DVD a couple of years ago and have watched it only once!. Full of expert analysis from people who werent at the race. At 99p I would say that it was overpriced!. :down:


Agreed on the "experts" and the actual race coverage but I found some of the old footage from the '30s and '50s more than worth it.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 14:34

Gordon Kirby's column covers his latest book, due in July, 2011: Mario's Team--the complete story of Carl Haas Auto and Newman/Haas Racing

http://www.gordonkir...t_is_no272.html

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 14:43

I eagerly look forward to that, as Carl Haas and all his endeavors were so much a part of the racing scene where I grew up and continue to live. I just hope that it has a reasonable price to it, and not one in the three figures as all too many books have these days.
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 21:32

I eagerly look forward to that, as Carl Haas and all his endeavors were so much a part of the racing scene where I grew up and continue to live. I just hope that it has a reasonable price to it, and not one in the three figures as all too many books have these days.
Tom


Looking forward to it also, but, on the subject of price, cross-referencing Kirby's description of his book with Racemaker's catalog will likely discourage you.


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Posted 14 February 2011 - 23:45

Looking forward to it also, but, on the subject of price, cross-referencing Kirby's description of his book with Racemaker's catalog will likely discourage you.

Yes, I have seen the prices asked for Finn's books, especially his latest on Cuban races, and those numbers are indeed discouraging. I'll have to sell some more photographs to pay for it.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 04:49

"Behind the Wheel: The Great Automobile Aficionados" by Robert Puyal (unknown to me) and published by Flammarian (never heard of them, either).

Jack.


My daughter gifted this book to me; it arrived from Amazon today, "Like New".


A quick scan reveals it is heavy, pretty good photo reproductions, and the title is sort of appropriate, I guess. Seems to me the (English) language doesn't always convey what the (French) author expects. There are sections for decades, and among the "aficionados" are many well-known personages not always principally connected with automobilism: Françoise Sagan, Quentin Tarantino, anyone?

Jim Clark is there, Fangio, many other drivers of repute, as well as a few you could anticipate: James Dean (dust jacket cover photo), Steve McQueen, Paul Newman. Many of the names I do not recognize, but eventually I will learn something about them. Make that something about what the author thinks about them.

I don't much care for "Top Ten ... " lists, either.

Ob: BloodPresssure: "Great" has been skunked - it is no longer the useful word it once was.


Of course my opinion of Mr Puyal's opinion piece may be poorly argued, but:

There is no greater mistake than the hasty conclusion
that opinions are worthless because they are badly argued.
-Thomas Huxley, biologist and writer (1825-1895)


Respectfully submitted,


#5672 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:49

Thanks for the review, Frank. I purchased the book a few months ago, and apologize for not posting my own impressions. The book did not come close to living up to my expectations, but I'm not sure those expectations were very well formed in the first place! Anyway, I wish I had my money back....

Jack.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 08:26

I am in Kent 10 to 13 March:
are there good bookshops and bargian bookshop in the region of Canterbury?

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 12:12

I am in Kent 10 to 13 March:
are there good bookshops and bargian bookshop in the region of Canterbury?

Apart from the usual chains - WH Smith, Waterstones, Blackwells - there's the Chaucer Bookshop, a high-class second-hand/antiquarian bookseller. Canterbury also has a branch of The Works, but for a place of its size it's really rather "un-bookish".

Nothing remotely like a motoring or motor sport specialist though: Motor Books in central London or Chaters in Camberley would probably be nearest, but Chaters is about a two hour drive (or three hours by train).

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 12:20

Does anyone know the Italian book on

Ludovico Scarfiotti

must have been in the late 60/early 70...quite rare.
I saw one at an US auction years ago, but didn't write down the details.

Any information would be helpful!!

Thanks Michael

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 13:46

Does anyone know the Italian book on

Ludovico Scarfiotti

must have been in the late 60/early 70...quite rare.
I saw one at an US auction years ago, but didn't write down the details.

Any information would be helpful!!

Thanks Michael


Title: Ludovico Scarfiotti
Author: Biondi, N.
Publisher: ?
1977, softcover, 266 pages
In Italian

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 15:02

Title: Ludovico Scarfiotti
Author: Biondi, N.
Publisher: ?
1977, softcover, 266 pages
In Italian

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Rapid!! Thanks!!
I see you have it??Quite rare?

Regards Michael

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 20:27

Rapid!! Thanks!!
I see you have it??Quite rare?

Regards Michael


Unfortunately I do not have a copy -- this is information from my data base of books. It is quite rare, however.

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 07:46

Unfortunately I do not have a copy -- this is information from my data base of books. It is quite rare, however.

Helioseism

a friend of mine has it ($200 he paid). It's a small (A5) softbound with some b/w photos. Must ask him to have a look at it.
best regards Michael

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 07:56

And when we are talking of 'rarer' books:

Enzo Ferrari e Maranello Nov 2010 ; Banca Popolare dell'Emiglia Romagna (printed by Artioli)

This is a typical (and therefore very difficult to obtain) Italian private publication (fuori commercio).

This is a big ,superb produced, 320 page book. It is based on an exhibition:'Percorso nella vita...' on Enzo Ferrari in 2008 at the Galleria Ferrari,

to commemorate the 110th Birthday and 20 years after his death.

The best is that it contains many photos from the 'Comune di Maranello' from the war and just after the WW2...that makes it special.
The rest is more or less production /racing--up to the Abu Dhabi Ferrari Fun Center..

Best try is ebay in Italy!

Regards Michael

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 07:29

THE HISTORY OF LDS IN FORMULA ONE RACING is now on sale. Written by Brian Tyler and assisted by Robert Young.


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Posted 19 February 2011 - 11:34

THE HISTORY OF LDS IN FORMULA ONE RACING is now on sale. Written by Brian Tyler and assisted by Robert Young.


Hieronymus

Thanks. WHERE published, where to order, details please..

Michael

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:10

I've just seen a copy of "Uphill Racers" by Chris Mason in a local charity shop for £45. Is it worth buying?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:42

Hieronymus

Thanks. WHERE published, where to order, details please..

Michael


Hi Michael

The books apparently sells for R200 and can be ordered by contacting:

heritagecars@icon.co.za





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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:44

I've just seen a copy of "Uphill Racers" by Chris Mason in a local charity shop for £45. Is it worth buying?

If you've seen the book, only you can decide if it's worth £45...
It would be to me (but I've already got a copy)

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 13:43

I've just seen a copy of "Uphill Racers" by Chris Mason in a local charity shop for £45. Is it worth buying?

At that price - yes! If only to sell it on to someone else here, as it's pretty rare and usually sells for upward of 70 quid!

Obviously you didn't find it in an Oxfam or British Heart Foundation shop ... :rolleyes:

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 15:55

Hi Michael

The books apparently sells for R200 and can be ordered by contacting:

heritagecars@icon.co.za



Thanks a lot

will contact them

Michael

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 19:46

I am working my way through SHUNT (awful title) by Tom Rubython. Apart from the rather large number of false facts it contains (there are really many, which undermines many more), I am suprised about how the author makes quite an issue of expressing his dislike of and lack of respect for some of the people involved in Hunt's career whilst raving about others. That the former are apparantly the ones who did not (want to?) talk to him and the latter did, may just be a coincidence of course...

Anyway, what do you think of this book?


I purchased the book a few days ago, and will post my thoughts when I have finished it... :)

One book which I can heartily recommend is the paperback version of Adam Cooper's biography of Piers Courage. The chapters dealing with the F3/F2 scene of the Sixties I found particularly enlightening.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 21:07

At that price - yes! If only to sell it on to someone else here, as it's pretty rare and usually sells for upward of 70 quid!

Obviously you didn't find it in an Oxfam or British Heart Foundation shop ... :rolleyes:


No, its a local hospice charity. Although I've done ok at Oxfam in the past.
I'll see if they still have it tomorrow

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 21:28

I've just seen a copy of "Uphill Racers" by Chris Mason in a local charity shop for £45. Is it worth buying?


Good luck, I hope it is still in the charity shop. And even if you can't argue them down a bit, it is well worth £45 in my view. Authoritative, expert, entertaining and well illustrated, it also has that essential ingredient which guarantees a book gets taken off the shelf years after you bought it - a detailed index, running in this case to more than 13 pages of 3 columns. A very good book indeed.

While I'm at it, I'd like to recommend two other hill-climb books. Simon Taylor's 'The Shelsley Walsh Story: a Century of Motorsport' (Haynes, 2003) necessarily has a tighter focus than Chis Mason's book, but is every bit as good. C A N May's 'Shelsley Walsh: England's International Speed Hill-Climb' (Foulis, 1946) is a much thinner volume, with few illustrations and no index, but adds the unmistakable flavour of being a first-hand account. I picked my copy up from our own Simon Lewis last summer for £25.

Happy reading.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 14:15

I've just seen a copy of "Uphill Racers" by Chris Mason in a local charity shop for £45. Is it worth buying?


I went and had a good look at this book today and I've decided that I'm not really interested enough to buy it.
It is in excellent condition with a nice dust jacket which has been price clipped, but apart from that is almost as new.

If anyone wants it the contact details are
Hospiscare Book Shop, 84 South St, Exeter EX1 1EQ. Phone 01392 435453

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 00:58

Had a good day in a couple of what appeared to be non-major chain charity shops today, a Falkirk hospice and Scottish International Relief. Got Maurice Hamilton's Ken Tyrrell book (hardback) for 50p, which seems a bargain as the only one on Amazon is going for just a shade under £100,000

http://www.amazon.co...;condition=used



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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:16

Had a good day in a couple of what appeared to be non-major chain charity shops today, a Falkirk hospice and Scottish International Relief. Got Maurice Hamilton's Ken Tyrrell book (hardback) for 50p, which seems a bargain as the only one on Amazon is going for just a shade under £100,000

http://www.amazon.co...;condition=used

You'd think at that price they'd offer free delivery ... :lol:

#5694 Tuboscocca

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 07:44

Just arrived:

Le Mans 1970-79,Spurring's sequel (Haynes).

GREAT book--many unseen non-pro photos, sidebars of rare marques (ROC,GRAC....)-great stats...
RECOMMENDED!!

Regards Michael

Next tome (1949-59) seems to be delayed to September.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 14:55

Just returned from a visit with the folks and brought these back with me....
Cars at Speed
Jochen Rindt Uncrowned King
Auto Union Race and Record Cars
Mercedes Benz Grand Prix Racing 1934-1955
Racing The Silver Arrows
Can Am

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 15:30

You'd think at that price they'd offer free delivery ... :lol:


Ah, they've dropped it to £20 now, don't quite feel like I'm sitting on as much as a bargain as I once was.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 22:38

Tight so-and-so! Go and celebrate Boddy's 98th birthday by buying the current copy of Motor Sport.

Or got to www.chaters.co.uk or www.motorbooks.co.uk and see what's around.

And, check what's discounted on Smiiffy's own site www.whsmith.co.uk. You can ring them and get them to send a book to your local branch. I know that you can if paying with plastic, with book tokens it may be a case of ordering at the shop.


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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:51

Hmmmm, Duncan, looks as if your reply got that tight so-and-so to delete his post!

Tom

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 15:14

I didn't think you could do that after someone had replied. :confused:

I'll have to quote the post next time! ;)

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 15:22

I saw the original post, for the few short hours that it was up, and had much the same reaction that you did. I was similarly puzzled by his request to have people copy ads and send them to him. I thought that if he did not want to buy the mag that contains the ads, surely he would not be willing to shell out for a book! :|

Tom