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#6351 helioseism

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 21:39

Even though Palmier says that there will be no 2011 edition of the Le Mans Yearbook, it is listed as in stock on the Raceland site that Herbert mentions, as well as on amazon.co.uk. Does anyone actually have a copy?

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#6352 ensign14

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 22:18

Le Mans Series yearbook, not Le Mans yearbook.

#6353 helioseism

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 23:34

Le Mans Series yearbook, not Le Mans yearbook.


Ah... that explains it!

#6354 Julian Roberts

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:50

[quote name='Herbert' date='Feb 19 2012, 21:06' post='5536558']
Instead of the LMS yearbook there is an official ILMC yearbook which also includes the LMS races at Paul Ricard and Estoril. It is written by Jean-Marc Tesseidre and is published by Apach who also publish the official Le Mans 24 hour yearbook.

You can order it here.


I have a copy of this book (via Chaters on Ebay). I had misgivings when I ordered it as it’s much cheaper than previous years (my copy was £26.74 delivered).
Now I’ve received it, I see I was right to be suspicious. There's not much in the way of content, just glossy magazine style reports of the races (inc Le Mans) only 160 pages so quite slim and not up to the usual standard at all.

I bought it as I have all the previous years, but don’t think I would as a stand alone book. Not too impressed

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#6355 Herbert

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 13:33

I've got a couple of questions concerning the GT Endurance yearbooks of the late 90s and the FIA GT yearbooks.
In which years were they published?
In which languages are the texts written? Does one book include for example texts in French and English or are there other different editions for each language?


#6356 Julian Roberts

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 14:31

I've got a couple of questions concerning the GT Endurance yearbooks of the late 90s and the FIA GT yearbooks.
In which years were they published?
In which languages are the texts written? Does one book include for example texts in French and English or are there other different editions for each language?


I think the earliest edition of GT Endurance was 1995.

I have 1995, 1996 & 1997, they're dual language; English & French. Thereafter (I think) they became FIA GT Annuals.





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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:16

Instead of the LMS yearbook there is an official ILMC yearbook which also includes the LMS races at Paul Ricard and Estoril. It is written by Jean-Marc Tesseidre and is published by Apach who also publish the official Le Mans 24 hour yearbook.

You can order it here.



Also recently published was the Porsche 934/35 book by Jürgen Barth and Bernd Dobronz. So far it is only available in German., but if you want to know something about these classic Porsche types you'll find it there. The development of the cars, race reports and results and the history of every chassis built on 600 pages with about 750 illustrations. Highly recommended for every sports car enthusiast!

More info here.


The Barth/Dobronz 934/935 book is immense. I can recommend it for the excellent photographs alone!
(Some of them are mine :)


#6358 Tuboscocca

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 16:12

New Sebring book

From the webpage:

NOW AVAILABLE!
Sebring 60th Anniversary Record Book
Just published: The complete record book of Sebring's 12-hour classic. Detailed results for every Sebring race since 1952 and over 600 photographs (every car to finish in the top ten). This limited edition softcover book is ideal for the serious Sebring fan and a great reference for anyone interested in learning about the cars and drivers that helped make Sebring America's greatest endurance race. Price is $40.

Webpage: http://sebringraceway.com/

Does anyone know this book already?? Better than the David Bull book??

Thanks in advance Michael

#6359 RA Historian

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 18:03

Not familiar with this book, but it sounds as if it is a supplement to the Ken Breslauer book of a dozen or so years ago which comprehensively covered the race up until the time of publication. That had full results boxes as well as narrative of each race. From the description given of this book, it seems to be a continuation of the results boxes, minus the narrative, plus a photo of each of the top ten cars.
Tom

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 22:42

I am just reading the Palawan Press Aston Martin Ulster book AND their All The Ulsters book (copy 100/100) AND Clare Hay's Bentley 8 litre book. No wonder I can't get to sleep. :)

#6361 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 23:32

I am just reading the Palawan Press Aston Martin Ulster book AND their All The Ulsters book (copy 100/100) AND Clare Hay's Bentley 8 litre book. No wonder I can't get to sleep. :)



Your avatar is keeping me up......

:blush:

#6362 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:48

I am just reading the Palawan Press Aston Martin Ulster book AND their All The Ulsters book (copy 100/100) AND Clare Hay's Bentley 8 litre book. No wonder I can't get to sleep. :)


If you have finished them, please pass them on - I can give you my address via PM ! :p

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#6363 Tuboscocca

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 20:13

New (revised) book on MONICA

There was in 2008 already a book (in French) on the Monica cars built by Jean Tastevin(Chris Lawrence was involved).

"Monica, Automobile de prestige", by Eric Brandely, 128 pages.

This will be revised and extended and is available in June 2012 at Editions du Fil de conducteur.

www.editionsfilconducteur.com


Not mentioned yet there.

Maybe some one is interested?

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#6364 helioseism

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 14:55

Amazon news:

BRM V-16 In Camera

Haynes Lotus 72 Manual

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 15:52

As a fan of the 50s I'm fascinated by the travel experiences of the smaller teams and privateers. I've read the HWM recollections of Alf Francis, and there is a book covering the Walker story, but does anyone know of any titles that might fit the bill.

I'm thinking of people like Bruce Halford and Horace Gould, who used to trek to many non-championship venues just for the starting-money. And what about Connaught?

If there isn't a book, over to you Doug Nye.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 16:06

The only book I know of specifically on Connaught is "To draw a long line" by CE 'Johnny' Johnson (Bookmarque, 1989). Really a personal memoir though. A bit heavy going ...

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 16:07

If there isn't a book, over to you Doug Nye.


Poor bugger, as if he hasn't got enough to do, leave the man alone!


#6368 Graham Gauld

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:11

As a fan of the 50s I'm fascinated by the travel experiences of the smaller teams and privateers. I've read the HWM recollections of Alf Francis, and there is a book covering the Walker story, but does anyone know of any titles that might fit the bill.

I'm thinking of people like Bruce Halford and Horace Gould, who used to trek to many non-championship venues just for the starting-money. And what about Connaught?

If there isn't a book, over to you Doug Nye.


If it ever gets published my book "Maserati Gauld Mine" has a full chapter on Bruce Halford and Horace Gould and their stories.

#6369 D-Type

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 16:16

As a fan of the 50s I'm fascinated by the travel experiences of the smaller teams and privateers. I've read the HWM recollections of Alf Francis, and there is a book covering the Walker story, but does anyone know of any titles that might fit the bill.

I'm thinking of people like Bruce Halford and Horace Gould, who used to trek to many non-championship venues just for the starting-money. And what about Connaught?

If there isn't a book, over to you Doug Nye.

Tales from the Toolbox by Michael Oliver has a chapter on getting there. If you don't have it already there's a chapter in Denis Jenkinson's A story of Formula 1 published in 1961.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 10:07

Might I draw your attention to a book just published by Haynes, this month written by one of our members and a loyal supporter of the 3 times a year TNF Film shows in Hertfordshire.

Roger Smith from Oxford has written several motor sport books in his latest
Formula 1 all the races
He has meticulously researching the 858 championship races from 1950 to 2011 for his book, from then selected his personal Top 100. But that wasn’t enough for the Marketing/PR people who insisted on a Top 10 to stir up some controversial interest.

"I must say I found the process of filtering down from 100 to ten strangely therapeutic. Simultaneously it was highly challenging yet immensely enjoyable.

I would be fascinated to hear what others come up with as their greatest races as well as their thoughts on the ingredients that constitute the term ‘great’. However, as a TNF non-participant up to now, in such an august group of F1 sages it would be presumptuous of me to open my account on such a highfalutin topic. I have no objection to my Top 10 being used as the coconut shy".
Roger

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Formula 1: All the Races
The World Championship Story Race-by-Race: 1950-2011
Roger Smith
Hardback
ISBN: 978 0 85733 058 1

Edited by RTH, 10 March 2012 - 10:26.


#6371 Alan Cox

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 14:56

Amazon news:
BRM V-16 In Camera
Haynes Lotus 72 Manual

Interesting that neither of these books are yet listed by Amazon UK and the Lotus 72 book isn't even listed on Haynes website under forthcoming titles.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 15:00

Interesting that neither of these books are yet listed by Amazon UK and the Lotus 72 book isn't even listed on Haynes website under forthcoming titles.



The BRM book is not at proof stage yet and the captions are still to be finalised.

Don't know anything about the Lotus book.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 16:33

Interesting that neither of these books are yet listed by Amazon UK and the Lotus 72 book isn't even listed on Haynes website under forthcoming titles.



Alan didn't find the BRM on the Haynes Forthcoming either...
Could mail the Link??

Regards Michael

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 17:48

New Picture biography on Jochen RINDT

http://www.boehlau-v...wbuchliste.aspx 29,90 Euros

Author Martin Pfundner did know JR very well, was helpful at the beginning of Jochen's career..

Pfundner was also longtime publisher of the Autojahr (German version)...

Haven't seen it yet--hope for unpublished photos..

Regards Michael

#6375 Alan Cox

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 15:42

Alan didn't find the BRM on the Haynes Forthcoming either...
Could mail the Link??

Sorry, Michael, couldn't find the BRM listed either.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 16:57

Sorry, Michael, couldn't find the BRM listed either.



then it's ok..

I heard that some of the BIG dealers i.e. amazon (here) are pushing the publishers to let them know what they are planning for 12 and more month in advance--hence these announcements..At Veloce they are well into 2013...

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#6377 helioseism

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:48

Amazon news:

Mike Hawthorn One Glorious Hour: A True Story - July 1958 - January 1959

#6378 Jesper O. Hansen

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:39

Might I draw your attention to a book just published by Haynes, this month written by one of our members and a loyal supporter of the 3 times a year TNF Film shows in Hertfordshire.

Roger Smith from Oxford has written several motor sport books in his latest
Formula 1 all the races
He has meticulously researching the 858 championship races from 1950 to 2011 for his book, from then selected his personal Top 100. But that wasn’t enough for the Marketing/PR people who insisted on a Top 10 to stir up some controversial interest.

"I must say I found the process of filtering down from 100 to ten strangely therapeutic. Simultaneously it was highly challenging yet immensely enjoyable.

I would be fascinated to hear what others come up with as their greatest races as well as their thoughts on the ingredients that constitute the term ‘great’. However, as a TNF non-participant up to now, in such an august group of F1 sages it would be presumptuous of me to open my account on such a highfalutin topic. I have no objection to my Top 10 being used as the coconut shy".
Roger

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Formula 1: All the Races
The World Championship Story Race-by-Race: 1950-2011
Roger Smith
Hardback
ISBN: 978 0 85733 058 1


I don't really give much for the top-10 or 100 races, but the marvel of this book are the short captions for each and every officially counting championship race held during the 1950-2011 period. It's relative easy to navigate and each season has short paragraphs detailing significant or peculiar happenings. Recommended for it's general usability, but for more information other sources must be sourced.

Jesper

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:55

With grids , full results ? Driver-Car-Team info , cor just Driver-Car ?

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#6380 Jesper O. Hansen

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 13:08

With grids , full results ? Driver-Car-Team info , cor just Driver-Car ?


Top-six results with data on race distance, pole position, fastest lap, weather condition, race leaders, top point positions and number of starters and finishers ..and including the 11 Indy 500 races that counted for the championship during the 1950-1960 period. Since the book covers 858 races I can live with the basic results, as they are easily available from plenty of other sources.

Jesper

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 20:58

Top-six results with data on race distance, pole position, fastest lap, weather condition, race leaders, top point positions and number of starters and finishers ..and including the 11 Indy 500 races that counted for the championship during the 1950-1960 period. Since the book covers 858 races I can live with the basic results, as they are easily available from plenty of other sources.

Jesper

Except for the race day weather, the Grand Prix Data Book by TNF-er David Hayhoe and David Holland has all this data plus full race order, retirements and grid positions. (Up to 2006)

The International Motor Racing Guide by Peter Higham has all the above occupying less than 1/5 of the book. (up to 2002)

So, apart from results for the last four years and a "Top ten races" feature does this new book add anything to those I already have?


#6382 kayemod

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:34

Except for the race day weather, the Grand Prix Data Book by TNF-er David Hayhoe and David Holland has all this data plus full race order, retirements and grid positions. (Up to 2006)


I agree, an excellent work, virtually error-free as far as I've been able to tell, and one of the most often referred to volumes on my shelves.

On a different topic, anyone know anything about this one, it doesn't seem to be listed on Amazon.

http://www.ebay.co.u...ME:B:SS:GB:1123


#6383 jj2728

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 13:13

On a different topic, anyone know anything about this one, it doesn't seem to be listed on Amazon.

http://www.ebay.co.u...ME:B:SS:GB:1123


I am very interested also.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 14:07

http://www.ebay.co.u...ME:B:SS:GB:1123


I couldn't find this on Amazon, but there were three used copies on AbeBooks, two in Germany and one in the US, it was published about 15 years ago. I imagine that all the text will be in German, which would rule it out for many.

#6385 Jesper O. Hansen

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 16:30

Except for the race day weather, the Grand Prix Data Book by TNF-er David Hayhoe and David Holland has all this data plus full race order, retirements and grid positions. (Up to 2006)

The International Motor Racing Guide by Peter Higham has all the above occupying less than 1/5 of the book. (up to 2002)

So, apart from results for the last four years and a "Top ten races" feature does this new book add anything to those I already have?


Probably not, but can't tell as I'm not familiar with your alternative titles. The Roger Smith title does fit a gap in book shelf and does so for a reasonable £15 or so plus p&p.

Jesper

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 16:33

I couldn't find this on Amazon, but there were three used copies on AbeBooks, two in Germany and one in the US, it was published about 15 years ago. I imagine that all the text will be in German, which would rule it out for many.



It is GERMAN...
To my knowledge the first on the Avus Track. Has the history and the races , but it isn't very deep on information..Good photos..

The better one is:

Axel Kirchner : Die Avus, by Delius Klasing

http://www.amazon.de...s...2620&sr=1-4

In German and OP. But has lots of races and results and very good pictures..

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 16:38

Top-six results with data on race distance, pole position, fastest lap, weather condition, race leaders, top point positions and number of starters and finishers ..and including the 11 Indy 500 races that counted for the championship during the 1950-1960 period. Since the book covers 858 races I can live with the basic results, as they are easily available from plenty of other sources.

Jesper



Positive: has for the top 6 even the number of pit stops
has for each year a graph showing when the title decision was reached.
negative: 'artist-illustrations' of the cars (rather school-boyish)
slightly chaotic layout, too much colour used..

All in all: excellent for quick reference (and not so heavy as the 'black' books)

Best regards Michael

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 19:20

Amazon is showing that a new authorized biography of Carroll Shelby by Rinsey Mills is set for release next month. Can't say I'm familiar with the author. What about anyone here?

http://www.amazon.co...A...2629&sr=1-5

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 19:30

On a different topic, anyone know anything about this one, it doesn't seem to be listed on Amazon.

http://www.ebay.co.u...ME:B:SS:GB:1123

Probably the copy I bought on eBay.de that never arrived and which the seller then refused to refund :rolleyes:

It is GERMAN...
To my knowledge the first on the Avus Track. Has the history and the races , but it isn't very deep on information..Good photos..

I have an earlier one by Kitschigin - Die Avus Story - published by Motor Buch Verlag in 1972. :)

Edited by Vitesse2, 14 March 2012 - 19:54.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 19:35

Amazon is showing that a new authorized biography of Carroll Shelby by Rinsey Mills is set for release next month. Can't say I'm familiar with the author. What about anyone here?

http://www.amazon.co...A...2629&sr=1-5


Cobras not being my thing, I've never seen them, but Rinsey Mills has done at least two well regarded books on the AC Cobra, probably why Shelby picked him for the biography.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 20:19

Probably the copy I bought on eBay.de that never arrived and which the seller then refused to refund :rolleyes:

I have an earlier one by Kitschigin - Die Avus Story - published by Motor Buch Verlag in 1972. :)



Vitesse, as ever , you are right...there was an earlier edition from Kitschgin...

and some other more obscure books as.. Rennen, Reifen und Rekorde (races, tyres and records) seems to be the third edition from Kitschigin (1995)..

And a good one: Die Avus im Rückspiegel (...in the rearview mirror)..by Kubisch..that's more on the construction as a test track-- that's what the Avus was mainly in the beginnings..

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 22:05

I don't really give much for the top-10 or 100 races, but the marvel of this book are the short captions for each and every officially counting championship race held during the 1950-2011 period. It's relative easy to navigate and each season has short paragraphs detailing significant or peculiar happenings. Recommended for it's general usability, but for more information other sources must be sourced.

Jesper


The Roger Smith book 'All the Races' is a welcome addition to the library. As others have said you can get the results and in more detail elsewhere but the big advantage is the pithy and well written race descriptions, each about 150 words but enough to give the story of the race. The last time I saw something similar was the John Player Yearbooks in the 1970s and untiol Sundays' Australian GP this is bang upto date. I would have preferred more pictures and less drawings most of which appear on the cover pages of the Grand Prix data book but this is a remarkably portable tome and all in one value. I was happy to give it five stars on Amazon wherea I begrudged giving Grand Prix Miscellany one!

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 23:07

Is that 150 words per race, or just the "Top 10"

#6394 Tuboscocca

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 17:52

Is that 150 words per race, or just the "Top 10"



Duncan, PER race!!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 20:34

Is that 150 words per race, or just the "Top 10"


It also lists all of the post-war non-championship F1 race winners (acknowledging Sheldon) and doesnt fall into the myth of saying that F! started on May 13th 1950!

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:47

Is that 150 words per race, or just the "Top 10"



Duncan, PER race!!

Michael


Ah, that's different then. The previous descriptions only mentioned the tabulated results. With mini reports it would nicely fill the gap from when Lang finishes.

My the way, does anyone know why Mike Lang stopped at 1984? is anybody planning to pick up the mantle?

#6397 Vitesse2

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:10

My the way, does anyone know why Mike Lang stopped at 1984? is anybody planning to pick up the mantle?

Volume 4 didn't sell very well and Mike bought the stock from Haynes to sell himself rather than see it remaindered. He was also doing other things - he set up his own publishing company (Forest Publishing of Liverton) specialising in books on Devon and wrote some articles on Devon and particularly Dartmoor history. I did hear he had some health problems too.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 16:22

Le Mans Racing magazine

Many of you know this excellent French magazine, which has always a chapter on Le Mans history too.

New for the latest issue is that they offer a (at the moment) free digital ENGLISH version on their website...

www.lemans-racing.com

Maybe it's interesting...

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 20:48

On the subject of Le Mans, I've just noticed that Amazon now has a listing for Haynes's 1980s volume of the event's history, again written by Quentin Spurring and to be published in August of this year. The first three volumes have all been excellent, so I look forward to this one with much anticipation!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 17:14

On the subject of Le Mans, I've just noticed that Amazon now has a listing for Haynes's 1980s volume of the event's history, again written by Quentin Spurring and to be published in August of this year. The first three volumes have all been excellent, so I look forward to this one with much anticipation!


Oh lovely! About time the 1980s book is out soon and I am looking forward to it.