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#6951 Tuboscocca

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 16:52

Where is the famous : 'I got for Christmas this and this book' - thread..

No-one has got any books , DVDs or... this year????

Can't believe it...

I got (a very long wish). OTTO VU by Tony Andriansens--MARVELOUS book...And heavy (6+ Kilos)

Very best regards Michael

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#6952 fbarrett

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 17:12

OK, for Christmas I got the Frank Lockhart biography from Racemaker Press, but I haven't had the chance to do any more than flip through it yet.

Frank

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 19:39

Poor crop this year: just I Just Made the Tea by Di Spires. Admittedly it was on my list and earlier this year I did treat myself to Poetry in Motion, Tony Brooks's autobiography.

I won't even mention World Formula 1 Records 2013 which I will be exchanging for something else tomorrow. I don't know that there's anything wrong with it - it just isn't my type of book.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 20:51

Poor crop this year: just I Just Made the Tea by Di Spires.


You'll really enjoy that one I did, a very homely and down to earth style, but full of fascinating insights, it shatters several reputations and boosts others.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 21:25

We had a mishap - knowing that I have umpteen books on my bookshelves, the family asks for a list to choose from. They also do this for birthdays. Unfortunately my mother than looked at the birthday list getting me a couple of books that I had either bought since or she had already bought me for my birthday. So currently I'm sitting with two copies of Peter Warr's (auto)biography and two copies of Poetry in Motion.

I did get The Bruce McLaren Scrapbook, Le Mans 1970-1979 and A Gentleman's Motor Racing Diary, Volumes 7-10.

#6956 Tuboscocca

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 13:39

We had a mishap - knowing that I have umpteen books on my bookshelves, the family asks for a list to choose from. They also do this for birthdays. Unfortunately my mother than looked at the birthday list getting me a couple of books that I had either bought since or she had already bought me for my birthday. So currently I'm sitting with two copies of Peter Warr's (auto)biography and two copies of Poetry in Motion.

I did get The Bruce McLaren Scrapbook, Le Mans 1970-1979 and A Gentleman's Motor Racing Diary, Volumes 7-10.



Ryan86 that's awful!!!!Maybe colour coding the lists would help??

Thanks for sharing your 'mishap'

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 14:40

I received the Autocourse Grand Prix Who's Who, and a very hefty volume it is. I have one of the earlier Guinness books, but that ends with the 1993 season, so this is a needed update. Further, the text and photos are far more extensive than the earlier versions. It will occupy a place on my bookshelf devoted to frequent reference.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 14:40

We had a mishap - knowing that I have umpteen books on my bookshelves, the family asks for a list to choose from. They also do this for birthdays. Unfortunately my mother than looked at the birthday list getting me a couple of books that I had either bought since or she had already bought me for my birthday. So currently I'm sitting with two copies of Peter Warr's (auto)biography and two copies of Poetry in Motion.

I did get The Bruce McLaren Scrapbook, Le Mans 1970-1979 and A Gentleman's Motor Racing Diary, Volumes 7-10.

I keep a rolling list on my computer adding books and other things continuously. The family know to ask for the latest list. To avoid this type of incident I date the list before printing it (Autodating in WORD). Tuboscocca's idea of colour coding would provide another line of defence.

#6959 Tuboscocca

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 15:49

I keep a rolling list on my computer adding books and other things continuously. The family know to ask for the latest list. To avoid this type of incident I date the list before printing it (Autodating in WORD). Tuboscocca's idea of colour coding would provide another line of defence.



Duncan-thanks.

Would suggest GREEN for Christmas , that's obvious...

The laugh is always on the loser!! :rotfl:

But I had myself 'senior moments' in ordering books , which were already in my possession..

Michael



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#6960 john aston

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 17:56

Just got SCHLEGELMILCH's Sportscar racing 1962-73

Tremendous book. 540pages well printed hardbound.Stunning photos sorted by racetracks and years. Shortish minimal captions and small intros in EIGHT languages.
Lots of portraits too--sorry Björn, no transporters seen so far...

And all for 29,95 Euros...RECOMMENDED

Best regards Michael


Mine arrived today; I am not normally one for picture books but an exception was rightly made for this. Absolutely stunning images- and making me regret more than ever that I never saw the Targa Florio...A book which is quite astonishingly cheap for the number of pages, and their quality- the whole thing must weigh 3 pounds! If this era of sports car racing was your thing - and in my view it is the best possible period - then treat yourself- I'm sure you've earned it....

#6961 ryan86

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 23:38

I keep a rolling list on my computer adding books and other things continuously. The family know to ask for the latest list. To avoid this type of incident I date the list before printing it (Autodating in WORD). Tuboscocca's idea of colour coding would provide another line of defence.


I did that for my DVD's this year, from 2DTV: Series 1&2 to Zulu, and my magazines are all collated within a pad, but for whatever reason I've not got around to cataloguing my books. I guess two things put me off doing it. The sheer volume being one and the fact they are in no apparent order! I guess I also probably should sort them into some sort of system where books on similiar subjects are kept together rather than rather haphazard there's a space "I'll just put in there" method.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:55

Where is the famous : 'I got for Christmas this and this book' - thread..


I recieved two long-wished for books: All My Races and Poetry In Motion.

The former adds to my extensive Moss collection and is principly to use as a photo reference to add to my growing collection of Moss model cars (I re-paint and re-number other models to get a particualr Moss car that is not already available - sad, innit?).

The latter I wanted having long admired Brooks and having also recently met him a couple of times. I am reading it with mixed feelings. No doubt when it first came out there was much discussion on this thread - but at 175 pages (this thread - not the book) it's one helluva search to find it here. Can any regular contributor please guide me to the relevant part of the thread to save me hours of scrolling? (The trouble with searching this or any other thread on TNF is that it's a bit like looking for something in the loft and finding that everything has been wrapped in what were then current but by now are old newspapers: it takes ages to find what you want, but you learn a lot of interesting stuff on the way.)

Thanks and Seasons Greetings to all here.

#6963 Tim Murray

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:57

Can any regular contributor please guide me to the relevant part of the thread to save me hours of scrolling? (The trouble with searching this or any other thread on TNF is that it's a bit like looking for something in the loft and finding that everything has been wrapped in what were then current but by now are old newspapers: it takes ages to find what you want, but you learn a lot of interesting stuff on the way.)

The 'Search Topic' box at the bottom left of the page is very useful for finding things in long threads. I typed in 'Brooks' and 'Poetry' as keywords and found a number of posts about the book, but obviously judicious choice of keyword is required to track down all the relevant posts.

#6964 Mal9444

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:39

The 'Search Topic' box at the bottom left of the page is very useful for finding things in long threads. I typed in 'Brooks' and 'Poetry' as keywords and found a number of posts about the book, but obviously judicious choice of keyword is required to track down all the relevant posts.


Thanks for the tip, Tim. I typed in the full title of the book. You would be AMAZED at the number of posts in this thread alone that contain the word 'in' :o

#6965 ReWind

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 13:46

I typed in the full title of the book.

Of course you can type in the full title of the book to narrow your search. But then you have to connect the words in order of the software to understand what you are looking for.
So the keywords should be:
Poetry AND in AND motion


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 14:02

Received today: classical biography--lots of text and 4 'portions' of nice pictures...
IMO very entertaining and , I did know the Autosport competition of 1970(where he won the Lotus FF), but what he (Tiff) all did, even F1 and 14 times Le Mans...
Only negative no 'palmares'. Greatest photo: Tiff's rather used TR 7 ,which he sold to a certain Nigel Mansell!! And bought a 4 year old Ford Capri instead..

Best regards Michael (one week without new books!!!)


Bought myself this for Christmas, and 4 chapters in, I'm quite pleased I did. He comes across as a decent bloke, I'm looking forward to his stuff on the Chevron B41!

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 18:26

New books:

Lola T70: The Design, Development & Racing History by John Starkey and Franco Varani Link

Inspired to Design by Nigel Bennett


Lola T70: The Design, Development & Racing History by John Starkey and Franco Varani

I took the plunge and purchased this book via Chaters having been a follower of the type since I saw the MKIII Lola Aston Martin duo at Le Mans in 1967. I am not really qualified to make comment on its contents, as yet I have not spent much time reading it. All I can say is that chapters 1- 8 deal with the racing & development history of the the various versions, including historic racing - these ending disappointingly quite early at page 131 - with the remainder of the book to page 533 dealing with individual chassis history including racing and ownership details in a somewhat repetitive and generally unvaried manner.

However what did strike me, upon quickly looking through the book, is that it is lacking - in my mind - in some of its design values. The edge and gutter margins are narrow, whilst the two body text columns are separated by too wide a spacing. I just think it would all have sat better on the page if the margins were expanded and the space between the body text columns reduced, even if it did mean reducing the pictures sizing slightly. All this would have given the book pages the chance to 'breathe' presenting the material on the page to better effect, rather than its present form and the slightly cramped feel given off.

The body text itself is in a sans serif font, Arial or similar, I think, with a line spacing between each paragraph (a few of these are extra long and make hard reading). Personally, I think the body text would have looked better presented in something more traditional such as Garamond or Clearface.

Undoubtedly a lot of work and research has gone into this book and it is just a pity that - in my opinion - it is let down in the design department. The Ronnie Spain GT40 classic somewhat parallels this book but is far more coherent and varied when it comes to the presentation of its contents. At $150 US or £89.99 RRP UK this is an expensive book, but in my opinion it's presentation & design values just do not go along with the price demanded - an opportunity missed and for me, a regretful purchase.

ps. Support your specialist bookshop - and not just for those hard to find titles either.

Edited by retriever, 29 December 2012 - 13:48.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 18:46

Mine arrived today; I am not normally one for picture books but an exception was rightly made for this. Absolutely stunning images- and making me regret more than ever that I never saw the Targa Florio...A book which is quite astonishingly cheap for the number of pages, and their quality- the whole thing must weigh 3 pounds! If this era of sports car racing was your thing - and in my view it is the best possible period - then treat yourself- I'm sure you've earned it....


My daughter gave me that one for Christmas and my wife gave me a copy of the Publisher's Edition of Formula One at Watkins Glen, signed by Brabham,Surtees, Stewart and Andretti :)

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:26

does any one have a opinion on the christian naviaux book on the b.o.a.c 500 & 1000 races ? tried the search bar at the bottom left with no success , I realize the terms must be very specific. thanks in advance......all the best to one and all in the new year.

mike in canada

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:51

does any one have a opinion on the christian naviaux book on the b.o.a.c 500 & 1000 races ? tried the search bar at the bottom left with no success , I realize the terms must be very specific. thanks in advance......all the best to one and all in the new year.

mike in canada


If you just need to have all those races in one book, it's intereresting.
If you have kept the race accounts from magazines like Autosport, you will not find much more in the book.
If you like photos and look for pictures of the back of grid cars or DNS, you will be dissapointed, many colour photos but most of them seen before.
No chassis numbers and the odd mistake: the Colin Crabbe Ford GT40 given as non starter in 1967...

#6971 Tuboscocca

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:19

Corvette Racing by David KIMBLE, MBI

http://www.qbookshop...tte-Racing.html

The maybe '327th'-book on Racing Corvettes, but this time by a cut-away artist.

When you go to amazon..there is a Look inside-function which shows a good portion of the 256 pager..

Best regards Michael

NB the delayed Maserati Zagato book by Walter Bäumer should be available at the Retromobile in Paris (see Dalton Watson homepage)

And speaking of Maserati: (our) Marc Sonnery has produced a (already mentioned here) book on the Maseratis of the Citroen-era..
http://www.eaurougep...e-citroen-years


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 20:03

And speaking of Maserati: (our) Marc Sonnery has produced a (already mentioned here) book on the Maseratis of the Citroen-era..
http://www.eaurougep...e-citroen-years


I spoke to Marc Sonnery earlier this week. The book is about to be printed and should be ready by the end of the month, so I assume it will be available at Rétromobile.

#6973 Tuboscocca

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 22:56

Luxury!!!!

New book on the Ferrari FXX, racing version of the Enzo, which actually never raced!!

www.fxxbook.com

155 pages $85,-+ pp


Best regards Michael

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 18:23

Spotted in Waterstone's today:

Motor Sport Greats in conversation by Simon Taylor (Haynes). A compilation of 24 "Lunch With..." interviews from Motor Sport magazine.

#6975 Tuboscocca

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 15:11

New Denny Hulme book...


after Bruce McLaren, Chris Amon , the third tome : Denny Hulme...

Seen on

http://www.bruce-mclaren.com/index.php

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#6976 Phil Rainford

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 19:05

" The Works " are selling this at the moment.............looks a bargin?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 16:09

" The Works " are selling this at the moment.............looks a bargin?

Thought he was an actor. . .
What next, "Acting - the Film life of Graham Hill"?

Edited by Allan Lupton, 15 January 2013 - 16:10.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 16:26

Mine arrived today; I am not normally one for picture books but an exception was rightly made for this. Absolutely stunning images- and making me regret more than ever that I never saw the Targa Florio...A book which is quite astonishingly cheap for the number of pages, and their quality- the whole thing must weigh 3 pounds! If this era of sports car racing was your thing - and in my view it is the best possible period - then treat yourself- I'm sure you've earned it....


I found out that the "World Famous in the Netherlands and Belgian" Bookshops of "De Slegte" sell the SCHLEGELMILCH's Sportscar racing 1962-73
book at € 29.95.
And Yes, with more than 500 pages of Sportscar Racing in the 60's It is a Heavy Bargain!!.

Edited by paulhooft, 15 January 2013 - 16:30.


#6979 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 19:59

500 pictures from the 60's ?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 20:58

540 pages about the 60's !


It is a new Konemann book, you see..
Greetings,
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 13:25

Spotted in Waterstone's today:

Motor Sport Greats in conversation by Simon Taylor (Haynes). A compilation of 24 "Lunch With..." interviews from Motor Sport magazine.


I have just finished reading Motor Sport Greats in Conversation and I have to say it was one of the best motorsport related books I have read in a very long time. Each of the 24 conversations are excellently crafted and evoke splendid memories and images of races and people of the past. But that to my mind is not the genius of the book, what is exceptionally clever here is the way the 24 conversations (from the 80 or so available) were chosen and how they fit together. Each one can be read individually, but the real magic of this book I found was reading them all together as suddenly they become much more than 1 conversation, becoming a fine mosaic of different elements and stories that all knit together into the rich fabric that is motor racing. I felt I learnt as much about Jo Siffert and John Wyer as I did from the interviewees. Simon Taylor (and his Editor) have produced a masterpiece here I believe and I genuinely hope a second volume is in the pipeline.

#6982 Tuboscocca

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 20:21

The Cutting Edge


does anyone know or have this book??

http://www.amht.org....e-conversations

Ted Cutting's life in form of a conversation, published by the Aston Martin Trust.

Best regards Michael

#6983 Tuboscocca

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 13:30

Agriculture, Furniture and Marmelade

another new title from Greg Mills. A South African book!!!


http://www.kalahari....2/46801991.aspx

Best regards Michael

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 17:07

Spotted in Waterstone's today:

Motor Sport Greats in conversation by Simon Taylor (Haynes). A compilation of 24 "Lunch With..." interviews from Motor Sport magazine.


Is this simply a reprint of the Motor Sport articles or does it contain more information?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:03

I'm sure I read sometime back about a book on Bill McGovern and George Bevan,could someone give me the title if there is one

#6986 Tim Murray

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:03

It appears in Helioseism's regular listings of books that never were. The most recent is here and includes:

Updated Books that never were with NEW additions.

Books that never were - These books were probably never published, and likely never will be:
Updated 09-Apr-2012

(etc)

"McGovern/Bevan - Saloon Car Champions" by Martyn Evans. To have been published in 2001.

(etc)


Edit: However, there is also this:

http://martynmorganjones.com/page5.htm

and there are a couple of copies of it currently available on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.u...artyn-/93377148

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#6987 jaytee

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:19

Tim many thanks for the info

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 15:55

Hello All

'Maserati - The Citroën Years' is now available to order at www.maserati-book.com and will be ready to ship out on 1st/2nd Feb. Thank you for your patience! If anyone is coming to Retromobile in Paris, the book will be on the Horton's Books stall, and Marc Sonnery the author will be signing copies at various times throughout the week.

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Doug Blair
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#6989 midgrid

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 16:00

Is this simply a reprint of the Motor Sport articles or does it contain more information?


I only had time for a brief look, but I think it was just reprints of the original articles (plus some choice photos in a centre spread), although the blurb did acknowledge that some of the interviewees had since passed away. Perhaps Colbul1 has more information?


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:36

I only had time for a brief look, but I think it was just reprints of the original articles (plus some choice photos in a centre spread), although the blurb did acknowledge that some of the interviewees had since passed away. Perhaps Colbul1 has more information?


Hi, yes the book is essentially the reprints of the Motor Sport Magazine original interviews. There is a short introduction noting that the interviews have not been brought up to date and are as they appeared when originally published (so Ross Brawn's covers up to his sabbatical and thus doesn't cover Honda, Brawn or Mercedes years). The added pictures are nice, nothing that's not been seen before, I think if you have the magazines then this book is a bit of an extravagance, but good nonetheless.

#6991 john aston

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 19:01

Thought he was an actor. . .
What next, "Acting - the Film life of Graham Hill"?

Newman was a seriously good racer with a genuine passion for the sport . And made a far better racer than Graham Hill made an actor too...

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 22:16

Newman was a seriously good racer with a genuine passion for the sport . And made a far better racer than Graham Hill made an actor too...



:up:

Well stated.

#6993 Mark Godfrey

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:26

To read more on Paul Newman's racing life see http://www.scca.com/...x.cfm?cid=45388

Mark

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 00:08

I have long had a fascinating small book on my library shelf written by the Farman freres, Dick and Henry, and entitled 'The Aviator's Companion'. It was produced in 1910 by noted publisher of romantic fiction, Mills and Boon, and I recommend it to anyone interested in early aviation as it's one of the first 'popular' books on the topic to be published cheaply and hence widely read.

As was common practice in those days, the book contains adverts for many other titles published by Mills and Boon. I only recently noticed that included in this list were sister 'Companion' volumes entitled 'The Chauffeur's Companion' and 'The Lady Motorist's Companion', both written by "a 4 inch Driver". Through the miracle of Bookfinder, I now have the latter book, which I find is illustrated with diagrams and descriptions of several contemporary cars which have pair cast four cylinder sidevalve engines like the SCAT I am helping to restore at present.

My question is who is the '4 inch Driver' hiding behind the nom de plume? The name is clearly a reference to the 1908 TT where the event was restricted to four cylinder cars with a maximum bore size of 4 inches. After the TT, many of these cars competed in events at Brooklands, including Thornycroft, Piccard Pictet and the TT winning 'Hutton' (built by Napiers of Acton). Can anyone here identify which 1908 TT driver wrote these books?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:11

The name is clearly a reference to the 1908 TT where the event was restricted to four cylinder cars with a maximum bore size of 4 inches.

Ah. I had wondered until then whether it was someone excessively modest.


#6996 kayemod

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:16

Ah. I had wondered until then whether it was someone excessively modest.


Not necessarily, if we are to assume soft rather than hard covers.


#6997 nicanary

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 13:35

Not necessarily, if we are to assume soft rather than hard covers.


Matron!


#6998 Marticelli

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 18:57

In his defence, he said he doesn't use it as a rule!!

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#6999 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:52

Has anyone seen the book on ATS (Italy) ?

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#7000 Tuboscocca

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 16:20

Has anyone seen the book on ATS (Italy) ?

Only at the diverse dealerpages...Slim paperback with a few photos (26??)..
Seems to deal with the short F1 career and the streetcar ATS 2500 and its Targa participation....

Michael

Edited by Tuboscocca, 04 February 2013 - 17:43.