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#2251 ry6

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 14:59

The book "Pipes" was launched in Johannesburg on Feb 1st 2007 at the former home of the famous "Randlord" Sir Lionel Phillips now occupied by Hollard Insurance.

David Piper, Richard Attwood, Michael Knight, Jonathan Williams, Bruce Johnstone, Dave Charlton were amongst the drivers featured in the book.

Those interested in this 244 pager which includes too many photos to count can contact voszoo@global.co.za

The book covers most of the career of David Piper from his early days in the Empire Lotus to the Le Mans film crash and single seater exploits in NZ and Europe plus his sportscar career.

There are many unique scrapbook cuttings included.

If you look at the forest instead of the trees it is amazing what Pipes has achieved and done and is still doing!


The book was instigated by Paulo Cavalieri.

The process was driven by the indefatigable Greg Mills.

All proceeds go to the "legends fund" which helps those who have been involved in motor racing and have fallen on hard times.

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#2252 pilota

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 16:33

Originally posted by bradbury west
I was recently fortunate enough to see a copy of the promotional pre-publication booklet which shows examples of the photos and book SIZE and layout. I suspect the book will raise the game to a new level beyond Michel Bollee, Janos Wimpffen and the Palawan stuff ( irrespective of your views on Simon Draper's works). Reserved mine already via the Phil Hill website listed previously.
I suspect it will be a limited run and highly sought after.
Usual disclaimers, just an enthusiast
RL

Let's hope that it's not the usual Palawan prices and that mere mortals (like me) can afford it, and it's not just a book for the mega-rich. It sounds great.
Nathan

#2253 Mark Godfrey

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 18:03

The website philhill.com lists the GP Library as publisher of the forthcoming "Inside Track: The Motor Racing Photography of America's First World Champion Driver." I believe this is the first book from the GP Library -- perhaps more will follow!
Mark

#2254 petefenelon

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 18:32

Just seen that Tony Marsh has got a biography out - ordered it sight unseen; anything about a man with a career that long and varied in so many areas of the sport both behind the wheel and in the workshop is bound to be worth reading.

http://myweb.tiscali...nyMarshbook.htm

#2255 Allen Brown

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 18:57

Originally posted by Mark Godfrey
The website philhill.com lists the GP Library as publisher of the forthcoming "Inside Track: The Motor Racing Photography of America's First World Champion Driver." I believe this is the first book from the GP Library -- perhaps more will follow!
Mark

I can't say how I know this (;) ) but I suspect this book will quite wonderful. Phil's photography is fabulous.

Allen

#2256 David Beard

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 20:59

Originally posted by petefenelon
Just seen that Tony Marsh has got a biography out - ordered it sight unseen; anything about a man with a career that long and varied in so many areas of the sport both behind the wheel and in the workshop is bound to be worth reading.

http://myweb.tiscali...nyMarshbook.htm


Just printed my order form. I will have to have the Pipes book too....although I thought it was going to be called "There are Ferraris at the bottom of my garden".

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 00:03

Anyone seen this one yet? Comments?

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#2258 petefenelon

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 01:03

Originally posted by David Beard


Just printed my order form. I will have to have the Pipes book too....although I thought it was going to be called "There are Ferraris at the bottom of my garden".


Actually found the Tony Marsh one on Ebay, for... er, 50p more than it works out ordering direct, but I was sat in a very boring meeting... the joys of Wifi.;)

Definitely need the Pipes book, too.

#2259 bradbury west

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 11:28

Originally posted by ry6
The book "Pipes" was launched in Johannesburg on Feb 1st 2007 at the former home of the famous "Randlord" Sir Lionel Phillips now occupied by Hollard Insurance.

David Piper, Richard Attwood, Michael Knight, Jonathan Williams, Bruce Johnstone, Dave Charlton were amongst the drivers featured in the book.

Those interested in this 244 pager which includes too many photos to count can contact voszoo@global.co.za

The book covers most of the career of David Piper from his early days in the Empire Lotus to the Le Mans film crash and single seater exploits in NZ and Europe plus his sportscar career.

There are many unique scrapbook cuttings included.

If you look at the forest instead of the trees it is amazing what Pipes has achieved and done and is still doing!


The book was instigated by Paulo Cavalieri.

The process was driven by the indefatigable Greg Mills.

All proceeds go to the "legends fund" which helps those who have been involved in motor racing and have fallen on hard times.

.................

The feedback from the publisher is that it costs Rand 150 with a possible airfreight cost of Rand100 to UK.

At approx 14 Rand to the £sterling it is practically a giveaway

RL

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#2260 petefenelon

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 05:59

Originally posted by Graham Gauld
I was interested in the comments by FLB which have confirmed a plan I have to produce a book of conversations over the years with such people as Bruce Halford, Henry Taylor, Mike McKee, Giancarlo Baghetti, etc. As FLB said, they all have stories to tell and many of them have stories which clarify some of the misconceptions and misrepresentations of them.
I bought one of the first-ever small portable tape recorders made by Sanyo back in 1962 and have recordings, some short and some long, of conversations covering various drivers lives as well as engineers and mechanics like Tony Robinson. Also there are all the tapes I made over twenty years ago when I was preparing a book on Chevron. Some of the people on the tapes are now dead so there is plenty from which to choose. As my friends know, my ethos is that in order for one person to win a race twenty seven need to lose it and I am interested in the 27 as everyone talks about the winner and tends to forget the rest.


Slight misquote, that was me not FLB ;) - but yes, apart from the obvious 'heroes' that generation have been left largely untouched by history.

> preparing a book on Chevron

Did this ever see the light of day? David Gordon's book is fantastic but anything on Chevron would be great.

#2261 Graham Gauld

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 08:43

Sorry for the mistake.
Reference Chevron, no, the book was never written because my marriage was breaking up and though I travelled all over the place getting information I abandoned the project. I did loan some of the tapes to David but his approach to a book is different to mine. I have had my ear bent by Brian Classic and Paul Owens to write it but I honestly feel that I would be covering a lot of the same ground that David covered in his excellent book. However, what I have in mind with the Conversations book would allow me to stick to some of the fascinating stories, people and incidents I met up with such as trying to get a hold of Paul Newman to talk about the Chevron Can-Am car he ordered. I thought my luck was in when he was filming in Florida when I was due to go to Daytona. His secretary then said that during the Daytona weekend he would be back in Hollywood. I countered by saying that I would be flying to Los Angeles after the race anyway so it was arranged that I met up with him in Hollywood. Ironically he was called back to the Florida set and we passed each other somewhere over Texas, him going back to Florida and me heading for Los Angeles. And going to see the guy in Manchester who used to keep Derek Bennett from starving by buying him bacon butties in the local Bolton caff.

#2262 pilota

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 09:00

Originally posted by David Beard
Just printed my order form. I will have to have the Pipes book too....although I thought it was going to be called "There are Ferraris at the bottom of my garden".

Hi David,
I'm surprised but very pleased to hear about a David Piper book. I think it is long overdue. I believe that "There are Ferraris at the bottom of my garden" is the title that David's wife Liz has chosen for her book about 'Pipes'. Again, an eagerly awaited book. But in the meantime this sounds like a 'must-have'.
Nathan

#2263 pilota

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 09:25

Back to books - Anyone know anything about "Klementaski & Ferrari"?
I recently saw one advertised with a red cover and said to be a numbered limited edition of 2000.
I have one with a grey cover which is also numbered and is signed. Anyone know the story of these two versions?
Nathan

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 11:07

Originally posted by pilota
Back to books - Anyone know anything about "Klementaski & Ferrari"?
I recently saw one advertised with a red cover and said to be a numbered limited edition of 2000.
I have one with a grey cover which is also numbered and is signed. Anyone know the story of these two versions?
Nathan

Hi Nathan,
I have the red cover edition. It says: "Second printing of the first edition. For the original first edition 1,200 copies were printed, 200 bound in leather and numbered I to CC, 1,000 bound in imitlin and numbered 1 to 1,000. For this second printing 1,000 examples have been produced, numbered 1,001 to 2,000"

Hope that helps.

Jonathan

#2265 Graham Gauld

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 13:21

Reference the Klementaski book

There were 1200 copies of the original edition.

200 were bound in leather

1,000 were bound in canvas and numbered 1 to 1000 which I assume are the red covered ones as I have number 149 and it comes in a slip case.

#2266 Hieronymus

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 17:25

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Got my copy of PIPES yesterday. Here is the cover page.

Well done Greg, Andrew and Robert!

#2267 Hieronymus

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 17:29

PS. PIPES was selling like hot fire at the historic race meeting in Cape Town, yesterday and today, so I would suggest you get your orders in...I think only a 1000 books were printed.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 11:04

[i]Originally posted by bradbury west
The feedback from the publisher is that it costs Rand 150 with a possible airfreight cost of Rand100 to UK.

At approx 14 Rand to the £sterling it is practically a giveaway

RL [/B]

They have now confirmed with my order the option of airmail at Rand 110 or surface mail at Rand 65 to the UK. Still looks a bargain price and for a good cause.

RL.

#2269 ry6

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:41

Graham Gauld said -

As my friends know, my ethos is that in order for one person to win a race twenty seven need to lose it and I am interested in the 27 as everyone talks about the winner and tends to forget the rest.

__________________________________________________________________________


I could not agree more.

When I wrote Springbok Grand Prix (all those years ago) right up front I put something about the Olympic Games motto "It's not the honour in winning but the honour in taking part"

Hence not only were the winners and key personalities given space but an attempt was made to include a note or photo of ALL who contributed to the spectacle and thrills the events provided.

In the book "Pipes" Greg, Andrew and I follow this theme so while Pipes struts the stage the support cast are also strongly featured in text and photos and the story is woven around him.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 10:24

Originally posted by ry6
The book "Pipes" was launched in Johannesburg on Feb 1st 2007 at the former home of the famous "Randlord" Sir Lionel Phillips now occupied by Hollard Insurance.


All proceeds go to the "legends fund" which helps those who have been involved in motor racing and have fallen on hard times.



ry6

Perhaps it would be worth posting details of this fund on a separate thread. I suspect that there are many TNFers who would view the cause kindly

Roger Lund.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 11:35

Now this book doesn't seem to be out yet, but it's definitely one I'm looking forward to

http://www.forzamina...dex.php?news=42

Does anyone have more information on this?

#2272 bradbury west

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 12:16

Nice review and accolade in the Telegraph for Joe Saward's book, but their book service cannot supply.

http://www.telegraph...15/sobook15.xml

RL

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 13:05

Superb article from Mike Lawrence on pitpass.com on Joe Saward's new work. Mike is often fairly economical with his praise, so his review of Joe's book is even more evidence that it's an absolute "must buy". My copy's on the way.

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 13:52

I'm reading it now. The actual racing part is fairly short, the first quarter or so, and the astonishing thing in that bit is how prosaic the background to the "mysterious" Williams is - it's a little bit unusual, but no more so than Eddie Cheever's for example.

The cast of characters in the "spy" part is phenomenal, all sorts of random characters flitting across playing their part on both sides of the war (the Soviet intelligence in France was pretty much destroyed quickly by the Germans apparently; the French did not seem to think much of the Communists). To a large extent the story of some of characters is riddled with crucial mistakes that gave people away - but some were given away for more base reasons...

(I like the comment in Dr L's review about people who made excuses for being in the Waffen SS...someone presumably prominent in motor racing 16 years ago...hmmm...)

#2275 petefenelon

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 14:14

Originally posted by ensign14


(I like the comment in Dr L's review about people who made excuses for being in the Waffen SS...someone presumably prominent in motor racing 16 years ago...hmmm...)


Yes, a famous ex-FIA president who claimed to be a deep undercover agent for the FFI, penetrating the Waffen-SS. So deep undercover in fact that nobody in the Resistance had ever heard of him...

#2276 ensign14

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 14:17

And didn't he sue a French magazine for defamation and get awarded one French franc damages?

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 18:12

Originally posted by ensign14
I'm reading it now. The actual racing part is fairly short, the first quarter or so, and the astonishing thing in that bit is how prosaic the background to the "mysterious" Williams is - it's a little bit unusual, but no more so than Eddie Cheever's for example.

The cast of characters in the "spy" part is phenomenal, all sorts of random characters flitting across playing their part on both sides of the war (the Soviet intelligence in France was pretty much destroyed quickly by the Germans apparently; the French did not seem to think much of the Communists).

theres a distinction to do between soviet/russia and communist .and between the petain regime and the french . in 1939 (and its still true now in 2007) communist and socialist were important political party in france .add to that most of the resistance done during the occupation years were done by french communist party members , in the circumstance they did work occasionnaly with some right wing people but they did most of the real action and dammage to the german.

#2278 Doug Nye

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 21:02

I have been a Chater's customer for 44 years - in my experience they are indeed the top shop.

DCN

#2279 bradbury west

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 22:45

Originally posted by E.B.
Just had my first experience as a customer of Chaters, Seems some businesses out there do still care


And they are happy to talk about the books, giving reasoned and knowledgeable views of them, as they know their product, just like Mike Kettlewell used to, along with Connoisseur Carbooks, all those years ago.

Roger Lund.

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#2280 dretceterini

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 23:11

The Coma-Cros Pegaso book has finally been updated and released! Expensive though :(

http://www.editions-...gaso/pegaso.htm

#2281 Dennis Hockenbury

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 23:22

Originally posted by petefenelon
Superb article from Mike Lawrence on pitpass.com on Joe Saward's new work. Mike is often fairly economical with his praise, so his review of Joe's book is even more evidence that it's an absolute "must buy". My copy's on the way.

A must read to be sure. More on this book on this thread.

http://forums.autosp...309#post2618309

#2282 petefenelon

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:36

Originally posted by Dennis Hockenbury
A must read to be sure. More on this book on this thread.

http://forums.autosp...309#post2618309


My copy arrived this morning. On the basis of a random skim, this is going to be up there with The Lost Generation as a piece of serious research, compelling narrative and excellent writing. Full report later this weekend.

#2283 pilota

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:46

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad
Here are some books whose publication I'm eagerly anticipating. What other interesting titles are coming in 2007?
....
The Bernard Cahier book
Just buying those will probably break me, but tell us of other anticipated books.
Jack

Hi Jack
Seems you and I have the same interests. I've just bought 'Mes Meilleurs Souvenirs' by Bernard Cahier. At first glance its a great book. Good quality - 200 pages - great photos and interesting personal recollections. Doesn't have a lot of Ferrari content but what it has is interesting.
Thank goodness the weekend is coming up - maybe I'll find time to read it. Looks like one to add to the library.
Nathan

#2284 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 13:05

Sorry , a bit off topic : Does any of you have a copy of MOTOR magazine 17 June 1972 ?

#2285 Joe Saward

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 15:52

I understand that there are some people who have had trouble getting copies of The Grand Prix Saboteurs. I would be happy if they were in every WH Smith and Barnes & Noble around the world but that is a complex business when you are not a big publishing company. If there is someone out there who can make this happen then please contact me immediately!

If one googles Morienval Press and follows the instructions on the website (and is signed up for Paypal) the book is available in two or three days if one is in England. The book is also available through amazon.co.uk but before embarking on this route think of the starving authors as they get a lot less that way...

#2286 Joe Saward

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 16:13

Incidentally, I have some lovely photographs of an ex-FIA President in full Waffen SS uniform, standing in front of a portrait of A. Hitler. Some people in the resistance world did say unkind things about him but his explanation is that that he was working under such deep cover that only his immediate superior knew the story. Alas, his immediate superior was killed and thus no-one can prove the story.

It should also be pointed out that no-one can disprove it either.

#2287 Hieronymus

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 18:37

Originally posted by petefenelon


Yes, a famous ex-FIA president who claimed to be a deep undercover agent for the FFI, penetrating the Waffen-SS. So deep undercover in fact that nobody in the Resistance had ever heard of him...


http://www.feldgrau....icles.php?ID=77

#2288 bradbury west

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 18:51

Pipes Book

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bradbury west
They have now confirmed with my order the option of airmail at Rand 110
RL.

Ordered Monday, arrived here this morning, Saturday, top service, and such pretty stamps.

Joe Sawards book was ordered online from the publisher on Thuirsday night, also arrived today, saturday. Top service
Previous reviews of both of the books are accurate.

BTW it may be worth reading Joe's publisher's note on their website about their ethos , well worth supporting, and "Pipes" supports "the legends" as detailed before.

RL

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 22:01

Originally posted by Joe Saward
I understand that there are some people who have had trouble getting copies of The Grand Prix Saboteurs. I would be happy if they were in every WH Smith and Barnes & Noble around the world but that is a complex business when you are not a big publishing company. If there is someone out there who can make this happen then please contact me immediately!

If one googles Morienval Press and follows the instructions on the website (and is signed up for Paypal) the book is available in two or three days if one is in England. The book is also available through amazon.co.uk but before embarking on this route think of the starving authors as they get a lot less that way...


Ordered my copy through my local Borders. It took 8-9 days and there was no postage to pay.

Excellent read although it is not the normal motor racing book. The emphasis is less on the racing careers of Benoist, 'Williams' and Wimille and more on WW2 history, life in occupied france and the war time exploits of the three drivers. if you like the Richard Williams books on Pescara and Enzo Ferrari you will like this - similar informative and engaging style.

#2290 dretceterini

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 00:20

Can you please give me the title of the book you speak of on Pescara? The only Pescara book I am aware of is soft-covered and in Italian, called Circuito di Pescara 1924-1939, by Smoglica and Santuccione

#2291 rudi

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 04:16

Originally posted by dretceterini
Can you please give me the title of the book you speak of on Pescara? The only Pescara book I am aware of is soft-covered and in Italian, called Circuito di Pescara 1924-1939, by Smoglica and Santuccione


It's "The last road race", the story of the 1957 Pescara GP.

#2292 ry6

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 07:16

ry6

Perhaps it would be worth posting details of this fund on a separate thread. I suspect that there are many TNFers who would view the cause kindly

Roger Lund.

______________________________________________________________

For the record 2 000 copies of "Pipes" were printed.

This is not an effort by a major publishing house but by enthusiasts for two good causes.

First - to document in words and photos "what was".

Second - to help the Motor Racing Legends Fund.

The Legends fund is a trust which is carefully administered. Those in need can approach it for financia; assistance.

I am told that a recent example is that of an ex-marshall who was very ill - but the extent of his
medical costs were a huge drain on the resources of the fund.

Per Greg Mills "While the proceeds of the book do help they are NOT enough. But at least they make people aware of the fund".

Rob

#2293 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:08

Originally posted by pilota

Hi Jack
Seems you and I have the same interests. I've just bought 'Mes Meilleurs Souvenirs' by Bernard Cahier. At first glance its a great book. Good quality - 200 pages - great photos and interesting personal recollections. Doesn't have a lot of Ferrari content but what it has is interesting.
Thank goodness the weekend is coming up - maybe I'll find time to read it. Looks like one to add to the library.
Nathan


Nathan-

Here's the Cahier book I'm referring to:

http://autosportsltd.com/cahier2.php

Jack

#2294 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 06:50

:wave: I am expecting my Pipes copy any do ,the price is a bargain !

:wave: The new Le Mans 1957 by Michel Bollee is on the market now.

#2295 pilota

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 22:03

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad

Nathan-
Here's the Cahier book I'm referring to:
http://autosportsltd.com/cahier2.php
Jack

Oh no!! Looks like another 'must have'. I'll soon be more broke than I already am.
Nathan

#2296 red stick

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 17:10

Green Mountain Motorbooks sent me a postcard yesterday announcing that the Cahier book will be published in April. They're taking pre-orders at $149.00 US and offering free shipping in the United States if the order is placed before March 15.

http://www.vtmotorbooks.com

I've bought books from them before, and been pleased with the service, but otherwise have no connection to the organization.

#2297 bradbury west

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 17:37

Red stick; the website for it indicates
2 volumes
700 etc pages
142,000 words
1311 b/w pictures

Suddenly it looks good value. I wonder what the price will be in the UK at the current exchange rate

Roger Lund

#2298 Ivan

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 17:49

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad


Nathan-

Here's the Cahier book I'm referring to:

http://autosportsltd.com/cahier2.php

Jack

Wow
This place is 45 minutes from me. Never know it was there!
Thanks for the tip.

#2299 Doug Nye

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 20:20

A few days ago a large air mail parcel arrived here, containing the massive Mexican-published Rodriguez Brothers' book.

'Los Hermanos Rodriguez' is in my experience the largest biography I can recall, hard-bound and running to 592 large-format portrait pages. It has been written and compiled by TNF contributor Carlos Eduardo Jalife Villalon, and published by the Scuderia Hermanos Rodriguez. Core of the piece is a stupendous family/enthusiast collection of over 1,000 photographs, backed by an extensive and detailed narrative. It's Spanish-language, which is a problem for me with my personal block, but even so - WHAT a labour of love.

What I am qualified to review is the photo choice - a finer-mesh filter could certainly have been applied with benefit, and the dozens of postage-stamp photos are a tantalizing disappointment, but this pales into insignificance against the HUNDREDS of large-sized illustrations, plus much fascinating memorabilia.

I have to say that photo reproduction is in places rather poor - plainly featuring published shots, scanned from the page - but don't let any of these necessary strictures deter you from wanting (at least) to examine a copy. I am really impressed - short of being bright enough to be able to read it!

The boys were the biggest thing ever to emerge from Mexico in the motor racing world - and Carlos's magnificent book should I hope do them justice...I'm poring over it with the Spanish phrase book right now.

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#2300 pilota

pilota
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 20:33

Originally posted by Doug Nye
A few days ago a large air mail parcel arrived here, containing the massive Mexican-published Rodriguez Brothers' book.
It's Spanish-language, which is a problem for me with my personal block, but even so - WHAT a labour of love.
DCN

Hi Doug and others,
The word is that the author is working on an English language edition - due later this year. As Carlos is a TNFer he may be able to tell us more.
Nathan