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#3701 MCS

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 21:19

Originally posted by jumperjarier
:up: I can not wait for this book to come out,spoke to Bernard Devaney about Tommy at the weekend at silverstone F3 meeting, had me in fits of laughter of some the stories he told me :rotfl:


This looks interesting.

I wonder if Mr Window has anything to say.......

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#3702 Barry Boor

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 21:21

What is the best book that I might find which carries the story of the Aston Martin racing team in the 1950s - including the Formula 1 effort?

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 21:46

Chris Nixon's "Racing with the David Brown Aston Martins". But it will probably cost you more than the Millennium Shed did .... :lol:

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 22:38

Anthony Pritchard did one too, didn't he?
That might be easier on the pocket

#3705 MCS

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 22:56

As per David's recommendation, here's a thought;

http://www.amazon.co...19186513&sr=8-1

#3706 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:23

Thank you, Mark. :up:

My only query about the Pritchard book is that it would seem to be attempting to cover an awful lot of ground, with pictures, in only 64 pages!

Any comments on this book?

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:31

Originally posted by Barry Boor
Thank you, Mark. :up:

My only query about the Pritchard book is that it would seem to be attempting to cover an awful lot of ground, with pictures, in only 64 pages!

Any comments on this book?


Only one comment Barry, it's 384 pages.

#3708 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:36

Ah! Thanks! I wonder why the Amazon listing says 64....

Think I might just go for that, then.

Cheers, everyone.

(Edit, 10 minutes later)

Ordered!

#3709 David McKinney

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:47

Originally posted by kayemod
Only one comment Barry, it's 384 pages.

My one's 200 pages :confused:

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 09:03

Originally posted by David McKinney

My one's 200 pages :confused:


You've been short changed David. Mine is also 384 pages including the index.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:49

Wonder what I'm missing
The scope of the 200-page Aston Martin, the Postwar Competition Cars is by definition restricted - does the 384-page version go back further? Or have road cars as well?

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 12:51

I'm intrigued by this. My 200 page edition starts in 1948 and runs through to the AMR1. There's only about 8 pages on the DBR4/5 cars and overall the book is a bit sketchy - there's lots of picures within those 200 pages. I'd really like to know how the other 184 pages are accounted for.

#3713 Paul Parker

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 15:04

Hello David, hope you are well and see you at Goodwood hopefully.

You've got the earlier Pritchard book ASTON MARTIN THE POST-WAR COMPETITION CARS published by Aston Publications in 1991, the 384 page work is from Haynes titled ASTON MARTIN A RACING HISTORY and dates from a few years ago, perhaps 2005/6 or thereabouts.

#3714 David McKinney

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 16:53

I knew there'd be an explanation, PP :cool:
What does the Haynes book have that the original didn't?
(And don't say '184 pages')
See you in a few weeks

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 18:15

I'm afraid that's all I can say just now DM as whilst the earlier book is easily accessible, my copy of the later tome is literally buried under many other much larger format crushers and I've not had the chance to properly read it as my archive is in Blighty and I'm usually up an Alp.

It is worth it however from my brief flick through some while ago and I will be studying it more thoroughly along with re-reading poor old Chris's David Brown volumes in due course.

Squeak to you soon!

#3716 petefenelon

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 11:48

Originally posted by David McKinney
Anthony Pritchard did one too, didn't he?
That might be easier on the pocket


Yes. Nowhere near as much detail as Nixon, but not afraid to say where Aston underperformed and where John Wyer was less than objective!

(Wyer's The Certain Sound should be on your list too).

#3717 petefenelon

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 11:49

Originally posted by David McKinney
Wonder what I'm missing
The scope of the 200-page Aston Martin, the Postwar Competition Cars is by definition restricted - does the 384-page version go back further? Or have road cars as well?


The 384-page one goes right back to the dawn of A-M and into the modern GT programme. Lots of detail on customer cars too, not just the works.

#3718 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 00:52

Originally posted by Dennis David
Well I've pretty much cataloged all of my motorsports books here LibraryThing Use the Cover view to better "enjoy" my collection ... oh and since I haven't bought any motorsports books in over a year don't harangue me if you don't find the latest biography of Lewis Hamilton in my library. :p

BTW,

If you have less than 200 books LibraryThing is free if not a lifetime membership is only $30. Now on to some of my history books!


Here's another one:

www.goodreads.com

Jack

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 13:28

Originally posted by petefenelon

The 384-page one goes right back to the dawn of A-M and into the modern GT programme. Lots of detail on customer cars too, not just the works.

I found the layout disappointing for a book of this price (£35 rrp). All the colour photos are in their own section, and not in the chapters that they refer to. These days I think that this is unacceptable.
Putting the colour photos in their own section is a cheaper way of producing a book, and this is not a cheap book. Just my opinion.
Nathan

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#3720 Twin Window

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 15:37

Originally posted by MCS

This looks interesting.

I wonder if Mr Window has anything to say.......

It's a little hard for me to be neutral, so here's a link to Dodgy's review instead.

The book is now a physical reality by the way :D

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:55

Originally posted by David McKinney
What does the Haynes book have that the original didn't?
(And don't say '184 pages')


Assembly is the reverse of disassembly ?? :confused:

#3722 MCS

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 20:47

Originally posted by Twin Window

It's a little hard for me to be neutral, so here's a link to Dodgy's review instead.

The book is now a physical reality by the way :D


EXCELLENT !!

Another one to look forward to then...

Thanks Stuart.

#3723 Barry Boor

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 20:48

Well, my Anthony Pritchard Aston Martin book just arrived. All 384 pages; absolutely mint and only £17.48 through Amazon.

At first glance it looks superb.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 19:51

Publishers Delius Klasing just released a very interesting book on the BMW M1. Authors are Jochen Neerpasch and Jurgen Lewandowski. Road cars and Procar series are well covered. Nice pics, good layout. Even the rebirth M1 is covered. Text in German. IMHO worthwhile.

#3725 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 21:10

Originally posted by continental
Publishers Delius Klasing just released a very interesting book on the BMW M1. Authors are Jochen Neerpasch and Jurgen Lewandowski. Road cars and Procar series are well covered. Nice pics, good layout. Even the rebirth M1 is covered. Text in German. IMHO worthwhile.


Can you give us the title and a source for the book?

Thank you.

Jack

#3726 MichaelM

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 01:32

Going to the Amazon.de website (Amazon Germany), I see the BMW M1 book
is listed at 44 euros and coming out in September.

It does look interesting.


Michael

#3727 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 14:45

I've picked up a few odd titles recently.

DB 1932 - 1962 by Alain Gaillard (It appears to be self published)
Running to almost 600 pages this has lots of photographs, chassis numbers and results so that even those who don't speak French should find it very worthwhile. A great find.

Circuit de Francorchamps, 1000 kilometres.....et autres courses by Jean-Paul Delsaux
This is magnificent! Black and white photographic reproduction is superb and the pictures themselves fabulous. Covers basically 1950 to around 1977 with a little of later events. My desert island book of the year.

Snakes & Devils by Eli Solomon published by Marshall Cavendish
A large format xx page book covering the old Singapore road circuit. Well researched, produced and illustarted. Probably a must for all those Albert Poon, Rodney Seow and Graeme Lawrence fans out there. I picked it up in Singapore airport.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 23:42

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad
Can you give us the title and a source for the book?


Jack:

I understand that Delius-Klasing is currently without a U.S. importer, so you may have to order the M1 book directly off their web site (which I can't recall at the moment, but just google Delius-Klasing). They are also publishing Juergen Lewandowski's new Porsche Posters book, an update of his 1984 title. We should have the latter in stock when it appears, but it has been somewhat delayed, I'm told. I contributed images of a few posters missing from the earlier edition.

Frank

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 03:39

I just received my copy of BRM Volume 2 from the terrible packing deptartment at Amazon.com!! Anyway I noticed that this copy doesn't have a number stamped into it like Volume 1. Not that it really matters, it just made me curious if they numbered this volume or not. So is your Volume 2 numbered?

Anyway, I'm returning the book for a replacement, so hopefully the next one won't get damaged in shipping!!


Matt

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 07:33

Thoroughly recommend the book on Tommy Byrne 'Crashed and Bryned'. Received my copy a few days ago and read it from page to page. Cracking read and a great insight into a character I honestly didn't know that much about to begin with. Mark Hughes' involvement is minimal really for those concerned.

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 10:06

Originally posted by MattKellett
I just received my copy of BRM Volume 2 from the terrible packing deptartment at Amazon.com!! Anyway I noticed that this copy doesn't have a number stamped into it like Volume 1. Not that it really matters, it just made me curious if they numbered this volume or not. So is your Volume 2 numbered?

Anyway, I'm returning the book for a replacement, so hopefully the next one won't get damaged in shipping!!


Matt


There's been an unnumbered reprint of (I think 1 and) 2.

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 13:53

Originally posted by petefenelon


There's been an unnumbered reprint of (I think 1 and) 2.



Interesting Pete

I was aware of the reprint of volume 1, but then here's the interesting thing - The volume 2 I have is not a reprint. It has First published 2003 and then printed and bound in 2,500 numbered copies, listing the different editions 1-100 full leather etc. Maybe this copy slipped through without being numbered.

Anyway, I'm returning this to Amazon for a replacement due to the damage and it will be interesting to me to see if the replacement has a number. Not that a number stamped in the book makes any difference, but little puzzles like this stir up my curiosity.

Matt

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 13:57

:eek: You are returning THE ONE AND ONLY unnumbered copy???? In a few years it will be worth A FORTUNE!!! :lol:

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 14:16

My copy of BRM Vol 2 has no number either. I can't remember where I purchased it but it was here in North America.

Vol 1 i know is the reprint and has no number but Vol 3 which I received 2-3 months ago has number 1927.

#3735 pilota

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:05

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad


Can you give us the title and a source for the book?

Thank you.

Jack

Hi Jack
There are quite a few copies on Ebay @ 44 euros
Best
Nathan

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 15:12

Originally posted by MattKellett



Interesting Pete

I was aware of the reprint of volume 1, but then here's the interesting thing - The volume 2 I have is not a reprint. It has First published 2003 and then printed and bound in 2,500 numbered copies, listing the different editions 1-100 full leather etc. Maybe this copy slipped through without being numbered.

Anyway, I'm returning this to Amazon for a replacement due to the damage and it will be interesting to me to see if the replacement has a number. Not that a number stamped in the book makes any difference, but little puzzles like this stir up my curiosity.

Matt


Ahhhh - hang on. Some copies of Vol. 2 suffered some of the signatures detaching themselves from the binding, and were replaced. Perhaps some replacement copies turned out to be unnumbered?

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 16:22

Pete

Yes I think this must be it, I read the thread on this very issue yesterday. I'm now thinking that maybe some stores returned copies and these are the replacements sent back to the stores. Whereas the copies returned to individuals where numbered again.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 21:51

Originally posted by pilota

Hi Jack
There are quite a few copies on Ebay @ 44 euros
Best
Nathan


Thanks, Nathan.

Jack

#3739 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 00:32

Within the last week I received Genesis of Genius (thank you, Frank Barrett) and Grand Tourisme Volumes I and II (thank you, Ben Horton), so I have a lot of Porsche related reading ahead of me.

Jack

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#3740 dank

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 10:00

Possibly a bit off-topic... Anybody know what's going on with Nigel Stepney's book 'Red Mist' that was supposed to have been released by now? It just fell off the radar?

#3741 helioseism

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 00:15

New book:

Shelby, the Race Driver

By Art Evans with remembrances by Carroll Shelby

$29.95
Available mid to late October 2008

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#3742 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 01:00

I'm waiting for the unauthorized biography.

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#3743 Dennis David

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 20:55

Does Nigel Stepney have any credibility?

#3744 dretceterini

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 01:23

Has anyone seen the new book "Sport & Prototipi Italiani" by Rastelli?

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 04:06

Has this one been mentioned?

"Peter Collins - All About the Boy!" by Ed McDonough

http://www.klemcoll....cations/13.aspx

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:02

Originally posted by raceannouncer2003
Has this one been mentioned?

"Peter Collins - All About the Boy!" by Ed McDonough

http://www.klemcoll....cations/13.aspx

Vince H.

They're promoting the signed edition here, but there is a standard version available for those who want it. Chaters have it at £39.99.
Nathan

#3747 dretceterini

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 17:57

Found out the new edition of Simon Moore's Alfa 8c2900 book is supposed to be out in November, with a retail price of $295.00 US

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 22:41

Friends:

My new book, Shelby Cars in Detail , is now available.

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It covers 28 cars in the Shelby American Collection in Boulder, Colorado, with individual histories and Boyd Jaynes' studio photos of each individual car, including details. Included are an A.C. Ace-Bristol; a stock 289 Cobra; CSX2002, the first Cobra race car; CSX2019, the first Dragon Snake; CSX2026, the first Cobra race winner and first championship winner (ex-Bob Johnson); CSX2128, the Sebring racer; the Willment Coupe, CSX2137, Dan Gurney's ex-race car; CSX2155, the ex-Tommy Hitchcock racer (one of the first Cobras to race in Europe); CSX2299, the winningest Daytona Coupe; a 289 FIA Roadster; CSX2431, a race 289 prepared and driven by Ken Miles; a 427 S/C; GT40 Mk. 1, #103, the oldest surviving GT40 (ex-William Wonder); GT40 P/1021; GT40 MK. II P/1015, the Ken Miles/Denis Hulme car that finished "second" at Le Mans in 1966; the Mario Andretti-driven GT40 Mk. IV J-Car; two GT350 prototypes, Peter Brock's Falcon Sedan Delivery (!), and the Ferrari 410 Sport that Shelby drove to an SCCA championship in 1956--plus others. Published by David Bull, 11x13-inches, 272 pages, hardbound, slipcase, weighs 8 lb; $149.95 plus shipping ($5.95 U.S., $54.95 via Priority Mail International to Great Britain, so you might want to wait for it to appear in stores there). See www.bullpublishing.com or www.toadhallbook.com.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 17:28

Originally posted by continental
Publishers Delius Klasing just released a very interesting book on the BMW M1. Authors are Jochen Neerpasch and Jurgen Lewandowski. Road cars and Procar series are well covered. Nice pics, good layout. Even the rebirth M1 is covered. Text in German. IMHO worthwhile.

I recentley discovered this book is also available in english.

#3750 helioseism

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 19:26

Looks like "The Art Of Gordon Crosby" is about to be reprinted.

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