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#3751 Vitesse2

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 19:52

Originally posted by helioseism
Looks like "The Art Of Gordon Crosby" is about to be reprinted.

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.... on better quality paper than Hamlyn did it, one hopes. Not one of David Hodges' best productions in his time as an editor with Temple Press and Hamlyn. But produced down to what was a very good price for the time ....

Amazing how rare the originals are these days, but I dare say many were cut up for framing.

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#3752 David McKinney

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 22:12

Does that mean my original copy's worth something?

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 22:25

Originally posted by David McKinney
Does that mean my original copy's worth something?

About 80 quid in good condition. So roughly ten times the original price.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 06:25

Or 16 times what I paid for it :)

#3755 helioseism

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 00:56

New book:

Bernard Boyer ( ingénieur Matra)

Biographie de B. Boyer
Autodidacte et pramatique
Du C.A.P au Championnat du Monde (avec Matra)
Edition du Palmier 2008, Livre de 168 pages format 215 x 285, couv. carton, LIVRE NEUF


29 € (Euro)

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:31

New book:
Racers At Rest - the Checkered Flag 1905-2008
Buzz Rose, et al.
A celebration of life and a tribute to 1500 participants that perished in oval track, open wheel racing. 1905-2008. 448 pages. 9 x 12. This book features photos of many gravesites.

Deluxe Hard Bound $74.95 + $10 S&H
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#3757 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 19:38

Mmmmm... not sure I'm terribly comfortable with this last offering.

#3758 Dennis David

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 17:06

Instead of a slip case it comes with a shroud ...

#3759 Stephen W

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:55

Originally posted by Dennis David
Instead of a slip case it comes with a shroud ...


Isn't it in the long defunct cruciform format? :lol:

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#3760 HDonaldCapps

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 14:05

Originally posted by helioseism
New book:
Racers At Rest - the Checkered Flag 1905-2008
Buzz Rose, et al.
A celebration of life and a tribute to 1500 participants that perished in oval track, open wheel racing. 1905-2008. 448 pages. 9 x 12. This book features photos of many gravesites.

Deluxe Hard Bound $74.95 + $10 S&H
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I saw the advert for this when the latest issue of The Alternate arrived last week. Definitely not my cup of tea, but then there is a substantial subculture devoted to such this sort of thing. Even the rarified world of grand prix seems to have a bit of curiosity about this topic, witness the William Court tome.

I would be curious as to how this is being handled, given that the topic never seems to go away.

#3761 petefenelon

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 15:46

Originally posted by HDonaldCapps


I saw the advert for this when the latest issue of The Alternate arrived last week. Definitely not my cup of tea, but then there is a substantial subculture devoted to such this sort of thing. Even the rarified world of grand prix seems to have a bit of curiosity about this topic, witness the William Court tome.

I would be curious as to how this is being handled, given that the topic never seems to go away.


The Court book was 'about' death in the way that the Times' books of obituaries are - it was in fact more of a very stylish musing on the lives and careers of the drivers. Certainly not morbid and in fact rather the opposite.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 16:53

Originally posted by petefenelon
The Court book was 'about' death in the way that the Times' books of obituaries are - it was in fact more of a very stylish musing on the lives and careers of the drivers. Certainly not morbid and in fact rather the opposite.


There is an automatic assumption that the book in question, "Racers at Rest," is morbid, which until the book is actually seen and read by someone is a supposition. I did not think all that much of Court's book, to be honest, but which even if it was not "morbid" still falls within that category of "death books."

I also sense a bit of that usual elitist superiority that pops to the fore when certain topics or areas are brought up is being displayed -- mea culpa. Given the eternal popularity of The TNF Death Thead, perhaps there is more interest and a bigger market for such a book than some of us would suppose.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 19:07

Originally posted by HDonaldCapps


There is an automatic assumption that the book in question, "Racers at Rest," is morbid, which until the book is actually seen and read by someone is a supposition. I did not think all that much of Court's book, to be honest, but which even if it was not "morbid" still falls within that category of "death books."

I also sense a bit of that usual elitist superiority that pops to the fore when certain topics or areas are brought up is being displayed -- mea culpa. Given the eternal popularity of The TNF Death Thead, perhaps there is more interest and a bigger market for such a book than some of us would suppose.

Automatic assumption?...I'll say. Well put Don. Did everyone overlook the wording "A celebration of life and a tribute to..."?

I knew of Buzz doing this book and it's hard for me to imagine it being anything less than the above, particularly since these men were likely his idols, influences and contemporaries. The book undoubtedly contains drivers he watched as a youngster and drivers he raced against.

That being said, Buzz can be pretty matter of fact in his writing style, befitting of someone who raced in that era.

Regarding the elitist superiority and Don's accompanying mea culpa. I have noticed this too. I only have a problem with those who clearly display an obvious tendency for the morbid or, worse yet, gore. Their true colors are revealed in subsuquent postings. Which is why, unlike others, I don't instantly pounce on a new poster unless they are clearly egregious - particularly if English is not their first language. This whole matter could, and probably should, be discussed in it's own thread.

The Speed's Ultimate Price thread has evolved from passing along information on earlier fatal accidents, primarily prompted by men behind the Motorsport Memorial website, to news of recent accidents and often resulting tributes. Despite the subject matter, and it's oft criticism, it could hardly be further from morbid.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:07

Don,

What is 'The Alternate' like? I had never come across it until reading the Mickey Thompson Sear Allstars thread and it is mentioned in there. Is its focus mostly on US racing scene or does F1 get a reasonable look in?

Thanks
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 11:01

Originally posted by mark f1
Don,

What is 'The Alternate' like? I had never come across it until reading the Mickey Thompson Sear Allstars thread and it is mentioned in there. Is its focus mostly on US racing scene or does F1 get a reasonable look in?

Thanks
Mark


The Alternate is, above all else, a Labor of Love. It is not focused on the contemporary racing scene, but rather on the history of racing. Go its Web site at www.racepaper.com for more information. Phyllis Devine is the editor and she deserves all the kudos I can think of for what she is doing. I would encourage as many as possible to subscribe to this marvelous periodical. It is one of the few periodicals concerning racing that I bother to subscribe to these days. I enjoy it and only wish I had more of the back issues....

#3766 Paul Jeffrey

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 19:53

Book of 2008? Look no further than Goodwood Revival written by TNF contributor Doug Nye. Lots of detail, some wonderful pictures, wel re-produced, the circuit history, race reports from the revival and full results. An excellent book.

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Posted 25 September 2008 - 22:21

Copies of Blood Sweat and Turnips by John Cordts now available in Europe!

As of 30 September, I'll no longer be resident in Canada.

If you live in Europe a wish a copy,

please e-mail me at:

cordobaman at hotmail dot com . I live in Edinburgh and will have some copies available for £10/CDN$20.

If you're still in North America, don't fret.

Craig Rodwell
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rodkarac at sympatico dot ca
(705) 472-1033

Have lots of signed copies ready for shipping.

#3768 Frank S

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:35

Originally posted by fbarrett
Friends:

My new book, Shelby Cars in Detail , is now available.

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It covers 28 cars in the Shelby American Collection in Boulder, Colorado, with individual histories and Boyd Jaynes' studio photos of each individual car, including details. Included are an A.C. Ace-Bristol; a stock 289 Cobra; CSX2002, the first Cobra race car; CSX2019, the first Dragon Snake; CSX2026, the first Cobra race winner and first championship winner (ex-Bob Johnson); CSX2128, the Sebring racer; the Willment Coupe, CSX2137, Dan Gurney's ex-race car; CSX2155, the ex-Tommy Hitchcock racer (one of the first Cobras to race in Europe); CSX2299, the winningest Daytona Coupe; a 289 FIA Roadster; CSX2431, a race 289 prepared and driven by Ken Miles; a 427 S/C; GT40 Mk. 1, #103, the oldest surviving GT40 (ex-William Wonder); GT40 P/1021; GT40 MK. II P/1015, the Ken Miles/Denis Hulme car that finished "second" at Le Mans in 1966; the Mario Andretti-driven GT40 Mk. IV J-Car; two GT350 prototypes, Peter Brock's Falcon Sedan Delivery (!), and the Ferrari 410 Sport that Shelby drove to an SCCA championship in 1956--plus others. Published by David Bull, 11x13-inches, 272 pages, hardbound, slipcase, weighs 8 lb; $149.95 plus shipping ($5.95 U.S., $54.95 via Priority Mail International to Great Britain, so you might want to wait for it to appear in stores there). See www.bullpublishing.com or www.toadhallbook.com.

Frank

I took my copy of this marvelous opus to Terllngua/Lajitas to have it signed by Shelby. I must say, it was a real hit with the Shelby fanatics in attendance. Many did not know of it, and were eager to take the specifics, I presume to be able to order it.

Shelby - in great spirits at the introduction of his "Terlingua" Mustangs - signed it on the Driver Autograph Page, as did Bill Neale, Bob Bondurant, and a gentleman who once raced the #98 Cobra and whose name I have forgotten and could not decipher from his signature. I'm in Roswell, NM, on the way home tonight. Research and photos when I get home.

For those who remember the "Driver photos as kids" thread, the picture of young Carroll as a budding chauffer now exists in an autographed version, just one that I know of. So far. He said " ... that old house is still standing ... "

Cheers!

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 20:50

Originally posted by raceannouncer2003
Has this one been mentioned?
"Peter Collins - All About the Boy!" by Ed McDonough
http://www.klemcoll....cations/13.aspx
Vince H.

Received my copy a few days ago. Early impressions are quite favourable. Author Ed McDonough is, of course, well known and has done a thorough job here. The 320+ pages cover the whole of Collins career, and then there are the many recollections of those who knew him - people such as Neville Hay, Stirling Moss and of course Collin's wife Louise King. Finally there is a list of races with chassis numbers where known. There are many contemporary photos incuding some great colour shots, in Astons and Ferraris especially. This is a nicely produced book and a fitting 50th anniversary tribute.
Nathan

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 21:12

"Peter Collins - All About the Boy!" by Ed McDonough


This one is a definite for me.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 22:48

A thought just jumped into my head regarding alot of peoples oppinions on Max Mosley here... are there any books written by or about him?

Typed his name into amazon and found:

http://www.amazon.co...mosley&x=8&y=21

Punk Love or The Mack! :rotfl:

#3772 karlcars

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 16:58

There's no book by or about Max.

However in Automobile Quarterly Volume 47 Number 2, Second Quarter 2007, I wrote a comprehensive profile of Mosley, the only full-length piece about his life to date. It's 8000 words and extensively illustrated.

Written before the recent revelations but none the worse for that.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 17:06

Originally posted by karlcars
There's no book by or about Max.


What's the betting that there are one or two currently in the pipeline?

#3774 Mark Godfrey

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 18:13

Tenmantaylor, you may want to read "Bernie's Game" by Terry Lovell (2003) -- of course Max has the supporting role.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 20:35

Originally posted by Mark Godfrey
Tenmantaylor, you may want to read "Bernie's Game" by Terry Lovell (2003) -- of course Max has the supporting role.


I would love someone to write a book specifically about the rise of Bernie and FOCA prior to the 1980/1981 machinations.

#3776 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 22:17

Originally posted by Mark Godfrey
Max has the supporting role.


Just like my knickers.....

:eek:

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#3777 Dennis David

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 03:09

... a book about Max Mosely, yeah that would be right at the top of my reading list just after the tax code and the congressional record.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 22:04

Friends:

Biographies have always fascinated me. Although there may yet be no book about Max, there's no shortage of them about his family. Concerning Nancy, there's Life in a Cold Climate by Laura Thompson. Regarding Diana, there's A Life of Contrasts. And Sir Oswald (look him up on Wikipedia, not just for his political views) wrote his own bio, modestly titled My Life.

Frank

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 23:36

Please not those Nazis :down:

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#3780 EDWARD FITZGERALD

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 11:59

DUNBOYNE 1958-1967 , is now available , it is a photographic record of racing(cars) on this long lost Irish road circuit , formt is A4 landscape format , spiral bound , 84 photos incl 16 in colour , circuit diagram, event summary and results are included . The book was tied in to the Leinster Trophy 50TH , dinner in july , cost is euro 30 plus postage , it has a print run of 500 numbered copies and can be oredred from www.printworld.ie I will forward some page from the book to Twinny for posting

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 12:32

Originally posted by fbarrett
Friends:

Biographies have always fascinated me. Although there may yet be no book about Max, there's no shortage of them about his family. Concerning Nancy, there's Life in a Cold Climate by Laura Thompson. Regarding Diana, there's A Life of Contrasts. And Sir Oswald (look him up on Wikipedia, not just for his political views) wrote his own bio, modestly titled My Life.

Frank


The best book I've read on Sir Oswald Mosley is Stephen Dorril's recent biography "Blackshirt" - it gives a real sense of how precarious parliamentary democracy was between the wars, as well as an idea of how blatantly opportunistic Mosley was. A very sobering book indeed.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 20:44

I have just had a note from Veloce to say that subscribers to their e mail newsletter can receive a 45% discount on current titles through October quoting a reference number etc which they supply, for sales on line, or via the telephone.
http://www.veloce.co.uk/shop/index.php?
scroll down to the choice of topics and find motorsport, or whatever appeals to you. There is a good range of books from which to choose.
I do not normally advocate electronic, discounted sales practices, preferring traditional booksellers who offer a fuller, and consistent, range for specialist topics, but as this is the publisher direct, I have no problem recommending it. Usual disclaimer
Roger Lund.

#3783 JohnS

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 21:29

Originally posted by fbarrett
[B]Although there may yet be no book about Max,

I bet there will be soon! I imagine the serialisation rights would be of interest to several tabloids!

John

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 21:44

Originally posted by JohnS


I bet there will be soon! I imagine the serialisation rights would be of interest to several tabloids!

John


Scratch and sniff ???

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 14:32

Interesting item on today's BBC 2 Working Lunch programme about newly launched Electronic Readers or E Books.

The size of a book, only much slimmer and battery powered they can have many hundreds of books downloaded on line on to them at any one time.You could for instance have the entire works of an author on your machine.
Apparently books first published 70 years or more ago are out of copyright and are free downloads.
New books currently cost a similar amount to the paper version.
The E-Books from various manufacturers in different sizes currently cost between £200-400. No doubt as with everything else this price will rapidly plummet.

The visual quality of text and pictures is said to be very impressive.

With no paper, binding or distribution cost involved , this must surely pave the way for reduced book cost to readers. Many books can be retained on a single memory card.
Nothing to display on a book shelf and clearly it is not such a pleasurable experience as a real paper book, but its interesting, something I should at least like to try.
Doug how about it ! ;)

#3786 ensign14

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 14:55

In 1986 the BBC launched a project to commemorate the 900th anniversary of the Domesday Book. In the same way that the Domesday Book was a snapshot of the state of Britain in the eleventh century, the Beeb wanted to do the same for the twentieth. This time with more interactivity. People's memories, video footage, whatever. Capturing the essence of Britain for future generations. 50,000 pictures, 250,000 pages.

In 2000 they decided to dig it out and broadcast a piece on it.

Unfortunately they couldn't.

It was on video disc and they didn't have functioning equipment any more.

However, you can go to the Ashmolean or Bodleian and read things written on paper 2,000 years ago...

#3787 COUGAR508

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 20:22

Christopher Hilton's book on Clay Regazzoni was discussed here a couple of months ago, prior to its release. I had a quick thumb through it in a bookshop earlier today, and at first glance it seems to devote a large amount of space to Clay's post-F1 life. Has anyone read the book, and what were your impressions?

#3788 Barry Boor

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 21:19

I wonder if anyone has an opinion about 'The Last Playboy' - the biography of Porfirio Rubirosa?

#3789 Frank S

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 22:05

Originally posted by Frank S

Shelby - in great spirits at the introduction of his "Terlingua" Mustangs - signed it on the Driver Autograph Page, as did Bill Neale, Bob Bondurant, and a gentleman who once raced the #98 Cobra and whose name I have forgotten and could not decipher from his signature.


It was Tom Yeager, who also did a TransAm or two in the Mustangs.

Frank S

#3790 Mark A

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 22:22

Does anyone know when the new Janos Wimpffen book will hit UK stores?

According to Amazon I should be getting it today or tomorrow, unlikely I think as none of the UK shops is advertising stock.

#3791 Mark A

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:48

It seems that Amazon have changed their info on my tracking page today to:-

We'll notify you via e-mail when we have an estimated delivery date for this item. It will ship separately. You can cancel at any time.

#3792 Paul Parker

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 17:17

Barry Boor
I wonder if anyone has an opinion about 'The Last Playboy' - the biography of Porfirio Rubirosa?

I read it a couple of years ago and it was pretty good but the paperback edition I had lacked any photographs.

It is one of those books that left me feeling that there was much, much more left unsaid, perhaps of necessity, but nevertheless this is a good example of just how fortunate some people are even in dodgy circumstances.

What is that cliche? Fortune favours the brave or words to that effect, but the lesson is perhaps the higher the level of excitement/pleasure the sooner the demise.

#3793 petefenelon

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 18:01

Originally posted by RTH
[B]
The visual quality of text and pictures is said to be very impressive.

B/W text is quite simply superb on the Ebook readers I've seen, of several makes.

But pictures? Forget about it. You're never going to have a 'coffee table' Ebook reader.

#3794 Barry Boor

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 19:02

Thanks for that, Paul.

#3795 Doug Nye

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 19:20

Originally posted by RTH
Interesting item on today's BBC 2 Working Lunch programme about newly launched Electronic Readers or E Books.

The size of a book, only much slimmer and battery powered they can have many hundreds of books downloaded on line on to them at any one time.You could for instance have the entire works of an author on your machine.
Apparently books first published 70 years or more ago are out of copyright and are free downloads.
New books currently cost a similar amount to the paper version.
The E-Books from various manufacturers in different sizes currently cost between £200-400. No doubt as with everything else this price will rapidly plummet.

The visual quality of text and pictures is said to be very impressive.

With no paper, binding or distribution cost involved , this must surely pave the way for reduced book cost to readers. Many books can be retained on a single memory card.
Nothing to display on a book shelf and clearly it is not such a pleasurable experience as a real paper book, but its interesting, something I should at least like to try.
Doug how about it ! ;)


Yeah, right...

Try reading one in the bath.

DCN

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 19:33

:rotfl:

#3797 Dennis David

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 19:39

... in the bath maybe not on on the toilet it works fine. :p

#3798 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 22:19

Originally posted by Doug Nye


Yeah, right...

Try reading one in the bath.

DCN


Just make sure it's on the battery, not the wall outlet... :eek:


Jack

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:10

Originally posted by RTH
Interesting item on today's BBC 2 Working Lunch programme about newly launched Electronic Readers or E Books.

The visual quality of text and pictures is said to be very impressive.


I dont think the e reader can show pictures.

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#3800 Mark Godfrey

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 17:37

Originally posted by RTH
Apparently books first published 70 years or more ago are out of copyright and are free downloads.

Close. Books published before 1923 are in the public domain. There are variables to international copyright law effecting the length of term. Work published with copyright notice & renewed between 1923 and 1977 = 95 years from publication. Published after 1978 = 70 years after the death of the author. Unpublished work is a longer story -- and copyright period.