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#4301 red stick

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 19:27

Originally posted by kayemod
Powderfinger's dedication is admirable. I'm not going to say anything even mildly rude, I wouldn't suggest for example that he should get out a bit more, and I'm not for one moment implying that his fastidious book arranging could have any effect on his love life, but a woman friend once told me that when she went to a man's place and saw that his CDs were arranged in alphabetical order, she couldn't drop him fast enough.


Ridiculously shortsighted of her. People who care enough to arrange their lives thusly are more likely to remember her birthday, notice when she's down, and, since they don't waste hours searching for something they knew "was someplace around here," have more time to lavish on her.


My CDs, by the way, are arranged by genre, then alphabetically.

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#4302 Frank S

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 21:40

Originally posted by john winfield
Great stuff, Paul!

[ ... ]

I don't know where anything is and it's a delight when I find something years later that I forgot I ever owned.

John



Yes, great.

As to the last, if you wait long enough, nearly everything becomes that kind of surprise. Some mornings I look into the garage and see a car I've forgotten*. Christmas morning delight at least once a week!
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* And there are but two possibilities!

#4303 Tim Murray

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 22:03

The only problem with forgetting what you own is going out and buying something that takes your fancy, only to find you already have it. I've not done this with books - yet - but now have two copies of several CDs. :blush:

#4304 P0wderf1nger

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 22:05

Originally posted by retriever
I read somewhere last year that a book commemorating 50 years of Lola was in the offing but nothing materialised. My research revealed that it was supposedly coming from the same publisher who was going to going to publish a book by the British Ferrari employee Nigel Stepney involved in the Mclaren/Ferrari scandal a couple of years ago - that never materialised either!

Has there ever been a really decent book published on the Lola marque and Eric Broadley. I possess one of the Starkey books but was put off buying any more due to the poor image reproduction / poor quality pictures used.


Retriever

Not a book, I know, but the May issue of Motor Sport reviews a new Lola DVD. Called 'Lola: The First 50 Years', it's produced by BHP and retails at £14.99 from www.motorsportdvd.com. Narrated by Stephen Fry (!), with input from Surtees, JYS, Blundell, A J Foyt, Damon Hill, Mario and Ross Brawn, Broadly talks about what went wrong in the 1990s and why.

Rgds

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#4305 helioseism

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:08

I arrange my books by size. That way I can get the maximum number of books on my bookshelves.

#4306 mark f1

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:32

Originally posted by kayemod
I've just been to see where my own copy of Colin Capman - Flawed Genius resides. Currently, it's between Chris Nixon's book Rosemeyer, and a work on the history of Clyde Puffers, so red and silver, green and yellow, and blue and white. Very tasteful.


FWIW...mine are sorted by size and Wayward Genius is between Wheatcroft's Thunder in the Park and Court's Grand Prix Requiem. :wave:

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#4307 john winfield

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:53

Finding somewhere for a huge book can be a bit of a headache. My rather battered copy of LJK Setright's Pirelli / Flying Colours book is behind the sofa, acting as a lid on a box of programmes. It is protected by half a dozen Competition Car magazines and miscellaneous folders of motor racing bits and pieces. Alongside are neat piles of old Autosports, Motor Sports etc. all covered by a sheet, everything hidden by the sofa. Oh for a library / office / storeroom / or a few less children!

I have treated myself to Gordon Spice's autobiography 'Life of Spice', which, hopefully, should arrive soon. There's a bit more information regarding the book and Gordon over on 10 Tenths.

#4308 bradbury west

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:10

Originally posted by john winfield

My rather battered copy of LJK Setright's Pirelli / Flying Colours book

A much overlooked book, IMHO, and well worth collecting
Roger Lund

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 20:41

Originally posted by bradbury west

A much overlooked book, IMHO, and well worth collecting
Roger Lund

Seconded. It's not often you find racing pictures published in such large format - and quite a few come from less familiar archives (at least when you consider those normally used by British publishers).

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 21:27

Originally posted by Tim Murray
The only problem with forgetting what you own is going out and buying something that takes your fancy, only to find you already have it. I've not done this with books - yet - but now have two copies of several CDs. :blush:

On a parallel theme, every Christmas and birthday I seem to get copies of what I have or even on one occasion two copies of the same book.

#4311 sterling49

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 21:36

Originally posted by Tim Murray
The only problem with forgetting what you own is going out and buying something that takes your fancy, only to find you already have it. I've not done this with books - yet - but now have two copies of several CDs. :blush:



mmm...I have done that with a few CDs too, my son laughs and says he is going to look for a home for me........ :smoking:

#4312 Ivan

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 01:46

I've done it with books. But not F1 stuff... :rotfl:

#4313 zakeriath

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:11

If anybody is interested in some of the behind the scenes history, George Copeland has recently brought out "50 years of motorsport marshalling" its available via the BMMC and hopefully the specialist motorsport book sellers.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:00

There is a copy of Time and Two Seats on e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...by-...:1|294:50

which won't go cheaply ;)

#4315 Allan Lupton

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 13:53

Originally posted by PRD
There is a copy of Time and Two Seats on e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...by-...:1|294:50

which won't go cheaply ;)

Just over $400 with nine days to go.
Amazon has one at £895 (plus £2.75 p/p which is a bargain!)

#4316 COUGAR508

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 09:36

Originally posted by Tim Murray
The only problem with forgetting what you own is going out and buying something that takes your fancy, only to find you already have it. I've not done this with books - yet - but now have two copies of several CDs. :blush:


I have bought a couple of paperback driver biographies, forgetting that I had already purchased the original hardback versions a few years previously. These days I usually go home and double-check my book shelves first!

#4317 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 00:40

Originally posted by raceannouncer2003
"The Photographic Art of Ted Langton-Adams, Europe 1962".

Ted Langton-Adams was a Vancouver based motor sport journalist and photographer. In 1962, Ted and his wife participated in a motor sport tour of Europe. This book is based on the images captured by Langton-Adams when they visited the European Grand Prix at Zandvoort in the Netherlands, the Monaco Grand Prix in Monte Carlo, and the 1000 km World Championship for Sports Cars race at Nurburgring. Hard cover, 8 and 1/2 by 11 inches, 74 pp., one b & w image per page....The creation of this book was the result of former racer Eric Faulks inheriting Langton-Adams' extensive photographic archive. So this book is not a definitive account of the races mentioned; rather, it is Faulks' wish to honour his friend's work. You can see some examples of Ted's photos by searching for "Langton-Adams" on the forum. Tom and I have lots more of Ted's photos (I have the negatives and Tom the prints), so there any many more from these 1962 events, as well as images from early 60s west coast racing (Pacific Raceways, Portland, Westwood, etc.) Scanning these is an ongoing process...


This book is now offered for sale on the Lulu.com website. Here is the link:

http://www.lulu.com/...n-adams/2208057

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#4318 Doug Nye

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 10:03

Having just done my bit to save the planet by not buying any books - and thereby salving my tree-preserving conscience for all of six months - I have just blown the attempt in a first visit to Chater's new emporium beside the old A30 between Hartley Wintney and Hook.

I think they have probably been mentioned here before - the sheer length of this Thread really is as unmanageable as the motor-cycling one - but I would very much commend three Argentine offerings to serious collectors:

Very much first (for my taste) is Guillermo Sanchez's 'Fuerza Libre 1919-1942 - Grand Prix, Sports Cars & Specials Racing in the Pampas' - with both Spanish and English text and a treasure trove of great information and enthralling photos.

Right behind it for me are Christian Bertschi's volumes on 'Ferrari in Argentina' and 'Alfa Romeo in Argentina' - fascinating, well produced, fabulous photos...and long overdue.

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#4319 PRD

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 16:59

Originally posted by Allan Lupton

Just over $400 with nine days to go.
Amazon has one at £895 (plus £2.75 p/p which is a bargain!)


It went for $826 in the end :eek:

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#4320 leestohr

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 00:07

For those who missed out, another copy is on offer -

http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=260396406479

#4321 green-blood

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 12:04

Are those prices for real... bloody hell I'd be tempted to let mine go!! then I'd pinch myself.

#4322 PRD

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 16:19

Originally posted by green-blood
Are those prices for real... bloody hell I'd be tempted to let mine go!! then I'd pinch myself.


I know. With hindsight I should have bought three copies

#4323 D-Type

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 14:49

Has anybody read Jim Clark: Grand Prix Legend by Andrew Tulloch?

Copies have appeared in our local branch of "The Works" being discounted to £5.99.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 15:28

Originally posted by D-Type
Has anybody read Jim Clark: Grand Prix Legend by Andrew Tulloch?

Yes. My view is it is a good introduction to his career with lots of nice photos, well written though not particularly exciting, and well presented. It is packed with photos, some of which are unfamiliar, presumably from the JC museum.

However, if you already know the basic story you will probably not learn much and will recognize many of the photos.

As a Clark fan, I am generally pleased to have it in my collection but I wouldn't be missing much without it.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 15:29

Duncan, for that price if you do not like it I will buy it from you........
I looked through it in Borders and it seems OK, but I bought the LAT JC picture book instead, which I do like.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 15:02

I am pleased to announce that I have written a book and worked in partnership with S.S Collins (of Autodrome fame) about the Birmingham Superprix:

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It is ready for pre-order from the Amazon.co.uk and Waterstones.com websites.

There are more information about the book itself from Veloce Publishing.

#4327 Ren de Boer

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 16:02

Congratulations, bigears! Hats off to everyone who manages to get a book published on his/her favourite subject!

#4328 ensign14

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 16:31

:up: Excellent! Andy Wallace to the fore to boot. :)

#4329 retriever

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 15:59

Hello Bigears

If you are going to promote your book's availability on the Forum, you should at least give the likes of Chaters and Motorbooks a mention also. Without the likes of specialists such as those, enthusiasts bookshelves would look decidely bare!

Extract from a very recent post of D.Nye Esq on this thread (including spelling mistake) "I have just blown the attempt in a first visit to Chater's new emporium beside the old A30 between Hartley Wintney and Hook".

#4330 Adam F

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 17:26

Originally posted by retriever
If you are going to promote your book's availability on the Forum, you should at least give the likes of Chaters and Motorbooks a mention also. Without the likes of specialists such as those, enthusiasts bookshelves would look decidely bare!

Most of us know who these emporia are - it is hardly necessary to give them a mention every time information on a new book is posted here.

In any case - bigears, congratulations on your book - I look forward to buying a copy. I attended all of the Superprix.

#4331 retriever

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 18:25

'Most of us know who these emporia are - it is hardly necessary to give them a mention every time information on a new book is posted here.'

True, but why then give Amazon or Waterstones a leg-up!

#4332 Vitesse2

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 20:50

Spelling mistake? I spotted a misplaced apostrophe ... but no spelling errors.

#4333 bigears

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:10

Originally posted by retriever
Hello Bigears

If you are going to promote your book's availability on the Forum, you should at least give the likes of Chaters and Motorbooks a mention also. Without the likes of specialists such as those, enthusiasts bookshelves would look decidely bare!


I see what you mean, I will drop in a line to the publishers and see what I can do about those motorsport book websites/sellers.

Thank you for your note!

#4334 retriever

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:14

Sorry Vitesse2, enthusiast's - okay!

Also apologies to Mr Nye - having passed through the place many times in my childhood care of Royal Blue coaches, including stopping at the cafe used by the firm, I have always thought it was called Hartley Witney. You are never too old to learn something!

Strewth, sometimes this forum is like walking on eggshells! However, I still stand by my comments regarding plugging Amazon & Waterstones at the expense of the specialists.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:16

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Spelling mistake? I spotted a misplaced apostrophe ... but no spelling errors.


I would commend the hon. member to the Chater's website...

DCN

#4336 Vitesse2

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:33

Hmmm .... technically your sentence needs a possessive apostrophe, Doug. But as Chater's already has one I'd be inclined just to move it one place to the right thus: Chaters'. After all, Chater's' would just look silly ....

OTOH I can spell Hartley Wintney ;)

#4337 Doug Nye

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:48

Pre-xactly... Priority's precedence...

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 15:34

Originally posted by bigears
I am pleased to announce that I have written a book and worked in partnership with S.S Collins (of Autodrome fame) about the Birmingham Superprix:

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It is ready for pre-order from the Amazon.co.uk and Waterstones.com websites.

There are more information about the book itself from Veloce Publishing.


Well done bigears! :clap:

A labour of love, for sure.

#4339 bigears

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 16:30

It certainly was especially with my profound deafness and I have throughly enjoyed writing and working with different people (especially S.S Collins) to make this happen.

I have contacted S.S Collins and he said that our publisher will make sure that the forthcoming book will be sold in the motorsport book specialists.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 00:01

Can someone please help me sort out my confusion on the book "The Forgotten Races" by Chris Ellard? I have seen two different publishing dates (2004 and 2007), two different cover varieties, and two different subtitles that indicate that the era covered was either 1954-1965, or 1966-1983. Were there two different books covering the two eras, or just two editions of the same book, covering 1966-1983? Help!

#4341 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:20

My book is called The Forgotten Races , the 3 litre F1 races 1966 to 1983 , publ. 2004. Hardbound with Ronnie Peterson in b/w picture at the front cover , and no dust cover.

As I remember there was talk of another book to follow about earlier non championship races , but I never saw or heard more on that one.

#4342 helioseism

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 16:17

Thanks, Bjorn!

#4343 MichaelM

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 23:55

Another interesting book with a publication date of June 2009:

Rebel Rebel: Breadvan -the most recognizable Ferrari in the world
by Marc Sonnery and Keith Bluemel

128 pages, hardback 120 colour illustrations

Everything you wanted to know about the 250 GT Breadvan!

Price 40 pounds.


Michael

Edited by MichaelM, 01 May 2009 - 00:00.


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Posted 05 May 2009 - 12:39

I've just finished the Barry Williams book by Paul Lawrence, very good it was too. However, at one point, when describing the '74 season I think, Barry says he was passed at a Silverstone test day by Bobby Rahal testing an Arrows. I assume he and Paul Lawrence are mistaken here, as Arrows didn't start 'til 1978, and to my knowledge Bobby R never drove one anyway. Does he mean Bertil Roos testing a Shadow I wonder?

#4345 fines

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:46

New book on Tommy Hinnershitz:

Tommy Hinnershitz. The Life and Times of an Auto-Racing Legend (Hardcover)
by Gary Ludwig (Author)
List Price: $29.95
# Hardcover: 252 pages
# Publisher: Basket Road Press (January 1, 2009)
# Language: English
# ISBN-10: 0981509940
# ISBN-13: 978-0981509945

Link

I was very anxious to lay my hands on this one, and finally got it a week or so ago, reading it almost in one go. The cover describes the author as a "writer of fiction and non-fiction", "crime and romance" etc., which made me quite apprehensive, but it really isn't that bad, as Gary Ludwig has had a life-long involvement with racing in various capacities, and his style of writing is "very normal", and mostly enjoyable. That said, I can't hide my disappointment about the book, as it doesn't really tell me much about the man "Tommy H.", despite the involvement of the Hinnershitz daughters. Still, Ludwig goes about the subject in an interesting way, starting out about the pillars of the sport, with chapters on AAA, the promoters, the car owners, builders, mechanics and much more, spinning a tale from Cyrus Patschke to Red Riegel, from Speedway/Indiana to Oley/Pennsylvania, and from Hiram Hillegass to Dick Holynski. He doesn't tell a straightforward story, which isn't a bad thing per se, as none of us wants to read "... and then he went to Williams Grove for a Saturday night show, and the next day he raced at Reading...", but still, there's a continuity missing from the script, and it leaves one rather befuddled.

Then there's the issue of factual errors, although I must say that that was to be expected with the subject at hand - American short track racing history, especially of the prewar variety, is still largely under-researched, if not downright obscure - that's why it is immensely important that books like these are written, warts and all. Yet, over time I was sort of making "mental noises" like bleeps or short siren signals whenever I discovered a mistake, and at times I was hard pressed to keep up concentration from all the bleeps and howls in my head! :drunk: Thankfully, most of the errors are of a harmelss nature, but a few blunders like "Frank Kurtis created Formula 1 cars" had me putting down the book for a second or two... Add to that the pictures, all black and white and of rather low quality, few of them particularly rare or interesting - some even with dubious relevance: alright, so Ludwig spins his stories within a wide circle, including pioneers like Patschke and "modern" racers such as Jan Opperman or Kenny Weld, but one really doesn't expect to see winged Sprint Cars with roll cages in a book about Tommy Hinnershitz! And then the "statistics": nearly a hundred pages detailing the races Tommy competed in during his 30-year-plus career - it was a mix of disappointment as well as glee, I have to admit, to see that I have info on many races that aren't listed in the book, even if - overall - the listing was a big help to me! But here again, errors and omissions are amplified by a poor layout, sadly undermining a good effort.

All in all: two out of five stars for the serious researcher, three out of five for the interested layman. A wasted opportunity?

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 13:39

I've just finished the Barry Williams book by Paul Lawrence, very good it was too. However, at one point, when describing the '74 season I think, Barry says he was passed at a Silverstone test day by Bobby Rahal testing an Arrows. I assume he and Paul Lawrence are mistaken here, as Arrows didn't start 'til 1978, and to my knowledge Bobby R never drove one anyway. Does he mean Bertil Roos testing a Shadow I wonder?

Checking Rahal's autobiog, Bobby didn't race in Europe until 1978 and his British debut was in F3 at the GP supporting round, although that ended in a pile-up. His first F1 test seems to have been with Wolf not long before his GP debut.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 15:18

I've just finished the Barry Williams book by Paul Lawrence, very good it was too. However, at one point, when describing the '74 season I think, Barry says he was passed at a Silverstone test day by Bobby Rahal testing an Arrows. I assume he and Paul Lawrence are mistaken here, as Arrows didn't start 'til 1978, and to my knowledge Bobby R never drove one anyway. Does he mean Bertil Roos testing a Shadow I wonder?

could be. Roos did a couple of formula 2 race that year .and did the swedish gp on a shadow . a great driver before the villeneuve and rosberg era he was the fastest and by far the most spectacular driver in "atlantic"


#4348 Hieronymus

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 18:22

could be. Roos did a couple of formula 2 race that year .and did the swedish gp on a shadow . a great driver before the villeneuve and rosberg era he was the fastest and by far the most spectacular driver in "atlantic"


Roos?

I think he only won 2 Atlantic races (class wins). In comparison you have Ian Scheckter who won something like 46 FAtlantic races...and yes, he was also spectacular apart from being successful.


#4349 philippe charuest

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 19:15

Roos?

I think he only won 2 Atlantic races (class wins). In comparison you have Ian Scheckter who won something like 46 FAtlantic races...and yes, he was also spectacular apart from being successful.

well it all depend on wich series, its very difficult to compare the level of competition of the south african and australian series to the canadian and later north american series. still its sad that ian sheckter never came in north america to show his skill like at trois-rivieres . his brother did race in north america in f5000


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Posted 08 May 2009 - 11:20

Has anybody read Jim Clark: Grand Prix Legend by Andrew Tulloch?

Copies have appeared in our local branch of "The Works" being discounted to £5.99.


I may be straying, and as a newbie I apologise and beg to be forgiven, but I remember being at Crystal Palace one weekend (I had been co-erced there and it was the start of my addiction which has lasted to this very day). I found myself at one corner and was watching this guy in a Lotus Cortina. He did not seem to change his pace, others speeded up or slowed down he was just relentless. The first lap he left a little slick of black tread mabe three inches at the most and the slightest suggestion of a puff of smoke. Every lap the same thing and almost exactly at the same spot. By the last lap that little patch of tread had lengthened to maybe six inches! Someone beside me said quietly "Jimmie is a bit loose today". I learnt Jimmie was Jim Clark, the same Jim Clark that the Sunday Express motoring correspondent (was it Glendenning) narrated an account of him being driven through the windy roads of the Scottish borders in mid-winter. He commented that he was surprised "ok he drove quickly, very quickly but not as quick as he would have thought he would). It was only when he got out of the car afterwards and fell flat on his face because he was standing on sheet ice did he himself genuinely realise just how special that man was!

I'm sorry I didn't mean to bore you it is just that every time I see his name I still remember those two memories!