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#101 RS2000

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:26

Originally posted by Fred Gallagher
Correction!
The middle Cortina in the previous photograph is the David Seigle-Morris car. Co-driver was D.J.B.Michael - anyone know his first name?
In the picture below l to r: F.P.P.Johnston/S.N.Devlin Cortina, Jim Stevenson/Fred Gallagher (my dad!) Cooper S, Bertie McElhinney/Stuart Gray Cortina.
These were all taken by 13 year old me on Tuesday 20th April 1965 at the finish of the circuit.
Fred


Don't recognise the name D.J.B.Michael. Remember Stuart Gray as navigator to Brian Newman in LCAMC road races (er... I mean rallies) later on. He then moved overseas?

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:32

Originally posted by sterling49
Amazing, Ted Cowell was doing London County events when I was, all those years later, it was such a great sport, turn up and have a go!!! Wasn't Tiny lewis in a works car? Thanks for posting the photos!


Not sure if that would be same Ted Cowell? Better known as a driver (in Triumph 2000 for a long time). Later had an Escort? - and clerked South Bucks M C rallies and ended up before an RACMSA tribunal?

#103 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:35

And now some from the 1967 Circuit:

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The Adrian Boyd/Beatty Crawford Cooper S with a long forgotten school mate

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D.S.F.Thomson (is that a young Piggy?)/D.Johnston Cortina GT

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J.E.Cotton/P.McClintock Peugeot 404

I guess by now you can tell I got a new scanner this week, found a totally forgotten box of negatives yesterday, and my wife is away (at the Monte Carlo Rally) for the weekend!

Sterling, with your interest in Imps you might like to know that I see from photographs in the 1967 programme that in 1965 the Malkin Imp was FHP549C and the 1966 car of Rosemary Smith was 4525KV.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:37

Originally posted by Fred Gallagher
A very grainy one of 4326(?)KV on the Orra Lodge stage on the last morning.
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4526KV? (used by Tiny Lewis on 65 Scottish, David Pollard in some 64 events?)

#105 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:39

Originally posted by RS2000

4526KV? (used by Tiny Lewis on 65 Scottish, David Pollard in some 64 events?)


Yes, I think it is quite possibly that.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 19:44

Brilliant photos!
Adrian Boyd in the Kallstrom car that was 2nd on 66 RAC.
I think David Thompson is the other David Thompson - drove Vauxhalls apart from this Cortina (one of the "and sons" in Harold Thompson and Sons, Tyneside?) competed into the 80s (and caused me to roll in Kielder on the 82 RAC because we passed him only just off the road and my concentration wandered thinking I should tell someone to go and help him).

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 20:40

Originally posted by RS2000


Not sure if that would be same Ted Cowell? Better known as a driver (in Triumph 2000 for a long time). Later had an Escort? - and clerked South Bucks M C rallies and ended up before an RACMSA tribunal?


Think he had an Escort and he was from South Bucks, used to have Julian Chitty in the right hand seat?

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 20:42

Originally posted by sterling49


Think he had an Escort and he was from South Bucks, used to have Julian Chitty in the right hand seat?


Julian Chitty did the service plans when I first co-drove with John Haugland for Skoda GB.

Was it really the left hand seat?

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 20:53

Originally posted by Fred Gallagher


Julian Chitty did the service plans when I first co-drove with John Haugland for Skoda GB.

Was it really the left hand seat?

Fred


just testing!!! :blush: Did you navigate in the Kermit Green Skoda RS (1300)?

#110 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 20:56

The green 120S(?) in 1975 and the red with stripes 130RS in 1976. Those photos may well turn up too!

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 21:06

Originally posted by sterling49
Think he had an Escort and he was from South Bucks, used to have Julian Chitty in the right hand seat?


A Lotus Sunbeam (which went to or came from Mick Briant?) also rings bells as a Ted Cowell car?

Julian Chitty must have been (co-driving with John La Trobe) the last to sit in a Sunbeam Rapier at International level?

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 22:15

Originally posted by RS2000


A Lotus Sunbeam (which went to or came from Mick Briant?) also rings bells as a Ted Cowell car?

Julian Chitty must have been (co-driving with John La Trobe) the last to sit in a Sunbeam Rapier at International level?


We ran a stupendously quick LCAMC event in late '70's early '80's and a certain gentleman in RNM133M won it at a canter, flat out across the marshes, great stuff and beware of the dykes :eek:

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 22:17

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The green 120S(?) in 1975 and the red with stripes 130RS in 1976. Those photoss amy well turn up too!

Fred
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Did you do the Welsh in this car? I am sure it was John Haugland that we saw "flying" on Eppynt :up:

#114 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 22:33

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The green 120S(?) in 1975 and the red with stripes 130RS in 1976. Those photos may well turn up too!

Fred
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Did you do the Welsh in this car? I am sure it was John Haugland that we saw "flying" on Eppynt :up:
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No, 1975 Barum, Baltic and RAC, 1976 Sweden and RAC.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 00:21

Originally posted by sterling49
beware of the dykes :eek:


Bit unkind to Kentish women, or women of Kent?

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 10:46

Originally posted by RS2000


Bit unkind to Kentish women, or women of Kent?


The ladies of Kent must be treated with a modicum of respect.....and being gentlemanly, that comes naturally ;)

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 12:57

Originally posted by sterling49
The ladies of Kent must be treated with a modicum of respect.....and being gentlemanly, that comes naturally ;)


Well said Sterling...a man who knows how to conduct himself :up:

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 18:03

Originally posted by sterling49
We ran a stupendously quick LCAMC event in late '70's early '80's...flat out across the marshes, great stuff and beware of the dykes :eek:


Romney and Walland Marshes, a few white goers and NAM junctions marked up, old 1" map 184 not 50,000. Better not post a scan of it as Ordnance Survey now get a bit precious about map data that was our national public property then.
(Pevensey Levels on 183 was a much more regular haunt for me as a navigator - and that was used as recently as about 3 years ago by the Kent Rally) (no jokes about the Sussex dykes - someone might think we were discussing Brighton...)

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 19:35

Lots of crews have been to visit the dykes of both Pevensey Levels and the marshes ...... :lol: I have just returned from Rye, blown the cobwebs out of the Focus, just love those roads,Maps 171,184, used to be our staple diet, on events such as, The Witsend, Senlac, Marsh Mist, Moonraker, Midsummer, excites me just typing the names :up:

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 19:37

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4


Well said Sterling...a man who knows how to conduct himself :up:


Some of my best friends are ladies, including my wife and daughter (who has just left Sydney and is now in Perth W.A.) it pays to respect them, what goes around, comes around ;)

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 20:29

Julian Chitty must have been (co-driving with John La Trobe) the last to sit in a Sunbeam Rapier at International level?



I think that my father had something to do with the demise of this Rapier as I am sure that John bought it when Rootes moved on to the Imp. John wrote it off when he went straight on at a "T" junction near Milstead one Saturday night on one of the local events in the mid sixties and dad (also John) was the navigator and was probably got the blame for wrecking another of Johns Rapiers! (Back in 1959 dad had taken just two weeks to find out how to corner rapidly in one of the brand new Minis and on one bend unwittingly forced John La Trobe to put an earlier Rapier into a tree near Leeds Castle when he was confronted by said Mini opposite locking its way through a left hand bend on the old A20 and was convinced that his time had come).

Julian Chitty did the service plans when I first co-drove with John Haugland for Skoda GB.



Julian Chitty was a very good friend of my parents and I will always remember him for coming over from Surrey for a Sunday afternoon drive to deliver his wedding invitation to them. That surprise was easily beaten as for approximately one hour hour a youthful yours truly drooled over and sat in the Bugatti Type 35 that he had used for the trip.

Please stop talking about Kent dykes, dad was a frequent visitor to them in his navigating days and also on one memorable occasion we all joined him when a NAM bend claimed us while dad was acting as sector opening marshall for the Jones Rally in IIRC 1965. We even got a mention in Motoring News the following week but it was quite sobering when, having been dragged out by an unfriendly farmer and his tractor that, not one but three more victims chose our spot to go off.

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Glyn

PS. Fred do you still have contact with Gareth Rees, a mutual friend of ours who lived near Istead Rise and was (IIRC) at Uni with you and Neil Oatley?

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 20:56

Originally posted by glyn parham


having been dragged out by an unfriendly farmer and his tractor that, not one but three more victims chose our spot to go off.


We used these spots to spectate, always hiding behind the bushes/trees, we usually saw plenty of near misses and upended cars back in the day, but always had a tow rope to help get the stricken cars out (...if at all possible).The last night event I spectated on, was about 10 years ago, on the Marshes......and yes, we picked the bend that had all the action, it just happened to have a stream of manure on the apex .......doesn't matter what tyres you run, they do not grip on slurry :lol: Great days, it sure did beat watching us lose the "Eurovision Song Contest" for the umpteenth time, a flask, some good mates, a few great 8 tracks, the maps and a tankfull of 4star, what better way to spend a saturday night if not competing?

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 03:51

Thanks all, for the great photos and yarns.

Got me all motivated to dig through my old photos now!

And the videos! BDAs just sound better in a forest, don't they?




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Posted 27 January 2008 - 08:43

Originally posted by Bruce R Moxon
BDAs just sound better in a forest, don't they?

Bruce Moxon


A sound that younger fans have missed, but I grew up on these noises,howling BDAs in the forest, the gorgeous slurrrping of DCOEs on a Lotus Twink, Straight Cuts in a powerful "S", the scream of an Imp at over 7,500 rpm, music to the ears and when accompanied by the smell of red hot brakes, baked earth on hot exhausts and a cup of coffee, drunk from behind a tree ;) ...........just the best :clap:

And back in the day, often, not many other spectators around either :wave:

#125 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 08:57

Originally posted by glyn parham


PS. Fred do you still have contact with Gareth Rees, a mutual friend of ours who lived near Istead Rise and was (IIRC) at Uni with you and Neil Oatley?


Glyn, I have sent this link to Gareth who now lives in Tokyo working for Nissan. Neil lives round the corner from me in Farnham.

And here's another photo from the 1965 Circuit. Paddy Hopkirk's Mini at the finish. Nice collection of cars in the background.

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And to finish off, a rather scrappy picture of the ex-Robin Eyre-Maunsell Imp WYH394H with which Richard St.John Young and I were about to tackle the 1973 Red Dragon Rally.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:29

One from my own.

The first one is a bloke called Geoff Briscoe, in a 2 litre (single cam) Escort in 1983 or so.

Geoff is a good enough driver but never achieved much, probably due to money. But he has this son, called Ryan....


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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:33

Taken a little over a year ago, in the growing Historic class of rallying here. Another Escort. It's another 2 litre, but there's a BDA coming.



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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:34

And finally (for now), a product of the Rootes/BL crowd. This is actually the first corner of the rally, so it hasn't had a chance to overheat....


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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:06

Originally posted by glyn parham



PS. who lived near Istead Rise and was (IIRC) at Uni with you and Neil Oatley?


Good old mum, I have just returned from a moring coffee, hosted by mum in Istead Rise :wave:

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:07

Originally posted by Bruce R Moxon
Taken a little over a year ago, in the growing Historic class of rallying here. Another Escort. It's another 2 litre, but there's a BDA coming.



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Nice photo, the Escort in "typical pose" :up:

A little harsh on the Triumph P.I., my company ran five or six of these, they were great to hare around in for a young buck of (then 19) :up:

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 17:51

From my lounge!

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Couldn't resist a little self grandisement with all the talk of the South East "road races (er... I mean rallies)"!

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 18:17

Originally posted by Nick Wa
From my lounge!

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Couldn't resist a little self grandisement with all the talk of the South East "road races (er... I mean rallies)"!


Well I never Nick......I was a Bexley Light Car Club member.......always used to marshall on the event, but a bit later than the year you won it! Names from the club that competed so well in LCAMC events, Jack Barnard, the Haydays, Dorothy Selby Boothroyd, Geoff Austin, I was a member from 1971 untill the mid Seventies. I still rember the '71 Witsend, it was a Ford Mexico/Sport round that year, I can still see John Barter and Dave Kirkham, all four wheels locked up, coming into our end of selective control, discs glowing cherry red! Shouting for a time... :up: I was driving across the marshes just yesterday, something that I see you will have to travel a tad further to achieve :lol:

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 18:18

..are you Norman Ward, that used to drive for Dorothy?

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 19:48

I knew Bexley ran the Witsend but I hadn't been able to sort out who's were the other events on Sterling's earlier events list, although I know of them all.
Confirmed in separate exchange with Nick that Harold Sharp was Maidstone&Mid Kent.
Had also just been looking on Blackpalfrey MC site for the photos of their President Doug Harris on the 1970 London Mexico (in 1300 Escort) that used to be on there (RS Escort forum has a WCR 70 thread) but they seem to have gone.
Knew Jack Barnard from rallying when he had a Vitesse and worked in same organisation. He broke his leg karting and then used to drive his Escort TC to work in Holborn. Recall him parked vertically up a bank (Levels again?) on something like Wells Cargo Rally, standing by car with leg in plaster, waving OK.
My one win in Kent (Pilgrims Rally, about 1970) was because I was the only navigator to find a PC up an overgrown white that had grass taller than the Mini I was in. This one, although the photo is Condicote Lane in the Cotswolds:
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Posted 27 January 2008 - 20:15

I remember Jack on his crutches well, I must have been around on lots of the events that you did also. I cannot remember Jack's Vitesse, but seem to recall that he smoked like a chimney, but always had a kind (and encouraging) word for newer (and much younger, just 17 years old) members of the club.

Great picture,if I could resurrect my scanner, I would post some of mine, I must renew it one day!!!

Did you know of Mick Greenland? Usually the fastest guy back in the day, in an indecently quick Mexico, then it had a twink transplant, he was just sooo fast, he had Jim Anderson navigate for him (we used to call them Team Bass Charrington, Jim liked his ale) and Mick's pseudonym was Tex (after Ritter, cowboy connections) :lol: Great days, always broke, invariably out of bed for the whole weekend and seeing a lot of the countryside, albeit, at a great rate of knots!

Kids these days put blue lights underneath their cars and hang around the shop carpark, what is that all about :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 20:25

Colin Bond / John Dawson-Damer, Escort RS1800, Endrust Forest Rally 1978.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 00:12

Originally posted by sterling49
Did you know of Mick Greenland?
Kids these days put blue lights underneath their cars and hang around the shop carpark, what is that all about :rolleyes:


Greenland was still rallying an Escort in late 80s at least, I think, then a Nova?

I was somewhat bemused to note that cars as mundane as a standard Honda Civic now come with the option of "blue ambient light" in the footwells...weird or what?
Unfortunately we are now seeing Chavs out and about following the few remaining road rallies and causing PR problems. It's a big debate in UK: whether they should be cultivated, to try and alleviate the damage they do to motorsport, or barriers firmly built. The big stereo brigade hanging out and setting up illegal drag races is a problem I'm helping with 4000 miles from home too - sort of "American Graffiti Meets Reggae/Soca". Basically the same problem: limited affordable legal motorsport options and no one prepared to make the effort needed to organise legal motorsport properly on a regular basis.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 00:15

Originally posted by GeoffR
Colin Bond / John Dawson-Damer, Escort RS1800, Endrust Forest Rally 1978.

That'll have the RS brigade trying to work out if it's an ex-works car re-registered locally - and if so which replica in the UK now carries the original UK plates and can be sold for £100,000 on the basis of the reg number...

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 05:29

Not ex-works from the UK, they were built locally in Colin Bond's workshop.

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IYK-000, the first Aussie built RS 1800 is currently for sale

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:45

Don't know if y'all have seen this. Not a rally, but this is an obvious raving lunatic in a Mk2 Escort in the Irish Hillclimb Championship. Not too many hills in Ireland, clearly.

My guess is he's either very young and single, or he's been married a while.


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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:23

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bruce R Moxon
[B]Don't know if y'all have seen this. Not a rally, but this is an obvious raving lunatic in a Mk2 Escort in the Irish Hillclimb Championship. Not too many hills in Ireland, clearly.
My guess is he's either very young and single, or he's been married a while.
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Yes, I saw that quite recently - and commented elsewhere that he would be quite a bit faster with a neater style! As someone who went from rallying to hill climbing in an Escort, I had a lot of habits to unlearn before getting hill climb class wins. The other point I had made was that an Escort could only run in that spec in UK speed events in the sports libre class, against sports racing cars etc. Both the UK Roadgoing and Modified Production categories, where Escorts excel, are more restrictive.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 12:31

Bruce,
Lots of hills in Ireland, but all on public roads and up to 2.5 miles in length. Young Mr McKinley (known as Mad Pup by some) is very definitely one of the crowd pleasers....
Maybe he would be quicker if his approach was a bit neater but what the heck .....
I think it's the ex-Villeneuve racing suit he wears that makes the difference !

Fred,
Great to see pic of WYH again. You probably have more pics of it than I do. As an aside, does anybody know what happened to ex-works/Eyre Maunsell Imp WYH 394H. I think it went to the south of Ireland and gained a new local registration but........

#143 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 12:45

Richard, great to hear that you're alive and well. I'll try to dig up some more Imp photographs.

Loved the Escort link. The difference between his Saturday and Sunday runs in Wexford suggest to me that there might have been a good party saturday night!

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 13:03

Glyn, I have sent this link to Gareth who now lives in Tokyo working for Nissan. Neil lives round the corner from me in Farnham.



Many thanks for that Fred.

BTW Fred, do you still collect models as I remember reading your contributions to Pit Road Magazine back in the eighties?

Good old mum, I have just returned from a moring coffee, hosted by mum in Istead Rise



Sterling 49
Mine lives in Hartley :p

Thanks to all

Glyn

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 23:15

Originally posted by glyn parham




Sterling 49
Mine lives in Hartley :p

Thanks to all

Glyn


mmmmn, memories of "The Crazy Rabbit Disco" and Hartley Folk Club :smoking: a loong time ago, back when the earth was still hot :lol:

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 23:36

Scans of some snaps of the finish/parc ferme for the '69 Circuit of Ireland, taken with my first camera (Kodak Brownie 127).

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Roger Clark's Escort TC
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Paddy Hopkirk's lightweight Cooper S
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Rosemary Smith's Lotus Cortina behind Cecil Vard's Porsche
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Barry Lee in an Escort TC
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Richard Hudson-Evans' Cooper S
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Cecil Vard's Porsche 911

#147 275 GTB-4

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:11

Originally posted by GeoffR
Colin Bond / John Dawson-Damer, Escort RS1800, Endrust Forest Rally 1978.

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I thought some of you might like to see "state of the art" rallying from the 80's. This is real teamwork. The legs in the car belong to the late John Dawson-Damer (co-driver), I'm in the black jacket, at the back is Keith Chesterton who is one of the V8 Supercar panelbeater guys and on the other side under the car is Colin Bond. This was taken in Phillip as we were changing the diff in a state round. I think we were in Canberra for a bit of competitive testing. For those who aren't familiar with the Escort rear end, it uses upper and lower parallel trailing arms and a Panhard rod. The front of the leaf springs slides on brass bushes which is why they are hanging down. Note also the twin caliper brakes. One is the handbrake.

For a bit of further info, the diff on the ground is an Australian built one and the diff going in the car, is its original Atlas rear end (edit: appropriate name for this forum!). The Aussie one broke.

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:17

Originally posted by GeoffR
Colin Bond's workshop.

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Quote: "That's not the workshop I worked in. We were at 33 Buffalo Rd Gladesville and it was way bigger than that."

So the question is....how many workshops did Colin go through?? :)

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 14:07

London to Sydney Marathon, 1968. Lake King control, early morning, Western Australia

Photos by TNFer Cavvy, who is happy to share them.

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#150 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 14:30

I love the 911 at the bottom. Paul Boxsell was probably upset it was blurred at the time but now it looks like a McKlein masterpiece!

Fred