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[Andrew Kitson]

Originally posted by sterling49


I wonder what else Thomas has in his box of tricks???

Edit: If Mannion's Anglia was a twink, the Peer car on pole is probably Roger Taylor in the large engined Anglia....Andy, please verify!!!!

More photos please! Great stuff.
Those special saloon grid shots are 1967, not sure if Mannion had a t/c installed that year. My guess is Peer on pole. I'll have a look see if I can match the numbers to a programme.

EDIT - just had a look at some progs. You are right Sterl, it could indeed be Taylor on pole, in the 1820 Lotus powered car. Mannion is also listed in some latter events in '67 with an 1800 t/c. Don't have a programme that matches any of these numbers though.
Bernard Unett could be in the Fraser Imp. He is entered driving it in most '67 programmes I have.

I've posted this shot below before, but worthy of inclusion again with these other shots, Brands 1968. The John Bond-Smith owned Anglia 1800t/c driven by Stan Matthews ( he was 19 at the time ) My dad, Doug, the mechanic. I was chief car polisher and on the stopwatches. Stan went to the Russell school in latter half of '68 to learn to drive properly. Eventually he got to F3 and Atlantic, a regular top 6 finisher and retired from racing in 1973.

[sterling49]

Great shot Andy....Brands never looked better, Jackie Bond Smith rings a bell, big yank car.....Galaxie maybe?

Priceless advertising hoardings at Clearways, seems like only yesterday................

[Andrew Kitson]

Dad was mechanic on most of the Bond-Smith cars in the '60s. Cortina GT, Lotus Elan, Galaxie 500 and Lotus 23B. John & Jacquie were then divorced, so John put young Stan in the Anglia from late '67, he bought the car from MP Reginald Maudling for £600 ( I remember going with Dad to collect it and Dad handing over the cash ), his son Martin had raced it previously. John stopped racing his cars in mid-'69, until he took up classic saloons himself in the mid-80s with an A35. Stan's family ran the Wicken Country Hotel near Silverstone. I remember we went to pick him up one day and most of the GP drivers were staying there for one of the F1 weekends.

Jacquie was daughter of Arthur Cook who built the Wavendon Wombat. Her sister Joey sometimes raced it and the 23B. Joey still races in HSCC events today, in a Lotus Elite as Joey Beale. Jacquie is into the 'one horsepower' sport these days.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Dad was mechanic on most of the Bond-Smith cars in the '60s. Cortina GT, Lotus Elan, Galaxie 500 and Lotus 23B. John & Jacquie were then divorced, so John put young Stan in the Anglia from late '67, he bought the car from MP Reginald Maudling for £600 ( I remember going with Dad to collect it and Dad handing over the cash ), his son Martin had raced it previously. John stopped racing his cars in mid-'69, until he took up classic saloons himself in the mid-80s with an A35. Stan's family ran the Wicken Country Hotel near Silverstone. I remember we went to pick him up one day and most of the GP drivers were staying there for one of the F1 weekends.

Jacquie was daughter of Arthur Cook who built the Wavendon Wombat. Her sister Joey sometimes raced it and the 23B. Joey still races in HSCC events today, in a Lotus Elite as Joey Beale. Jacquie is into the 'one horsepower' sport these days.

I remember Martin Maudling, father an MP or something, he must have collected the car from Downing Street

Edit: Was he not Minister for Transport??????

[Andrew Kitson]

Reginald Maudling was a cabinet minister at the time I believe, we picked it up from a big country house, can't remember where as I was quite young but it wasn't that far a drive from Cambridge, Suffolk perhaps.

[bradbury west]

ISTR Jackie BS in some black and white chequered overalls at some stage.
BTW, do we mention Mr Poulson, the well known architect in the NE?
Roger Lund

[bradbury west]

Originally posted by RS2000
It's the only time a works Healey was ever entered in a rally on Minilites (and of course it never started that one).
The previous works big Healey appearance had been the 65 RAC. On 1.1.66. the new Appendix J rendered the Healey uncompetitive in Gp3 - it lost its alloy bodywork, alloy head and triple Webers - and Abingdon dropped it for rallying.
The 67 RAC, unusually, had classes for Gp5 and 6 cars. Normally only the Coupe des Alpes among the top rallies ran "prototypes". I think the FIA then clamped down - certainly the 68 RAC was not allowed Gp5 and 6 within the main event and had to run a separate event (the Coupe des Alpes continued to do so... but then that WAS a French event...).
No Healeys remained at Abingdon and the works car that Peter Browning (by then the new BMC Competitions Manager) had bought (ARX92B? re-registered as PWB57) was loaned back and built into the "ultimate" rally big Healey, including alloy block for the first time. (He did OK out of that, gaining a full house rebuild of his car, that was then never rallied again).
The side exhaust cut into the bodywork was also only ever fitted to 2 works cars that started a rally (the 65 RAC cars + another for testing and then PWB57 for the 67 RAC)....but seems to have subsequently made its way on to most "historic" rally Healeys...

Many thanks for the detail. It confirms what I understood. It then brings us to what should be an appropriate spec for a big Healey as most people choose to pick the best bits. But then we would have to consider practically every historic comp. car these days and it is not a new phenomenon. As they were, so they should be, IMHO.
Roger Lund.

[Thomas lundevall]

Hallo,
Her is some more photos.
Thomas


Sven-Olof Svedberg co driver for Åke "Bryggan" Andersson.




Waldegård and Andersson service people have coffee break in Gulf Rally 1967.















All photos from this rally driver Lars Helmer private almbum, photo from somewhere in England.

[sterling49]

Great photos again Thomas, thank you! I am trying to work out who the driver in the Shaw&Kilburn Brabham Viva is? I would guess Rodney Spokes, but Gerry did drive it also, it's alongtime ago, could it be Gerry?

[RS2000]

Originally posted by Thomas lundevall

All photos from this rally driver Lars Helmer private almbum, photo from somewhere in England.

Could that be the Ace of Spades Service Station, diagonally across the crossroads on the Great West Road from the Master Robert Motel (of F1 drivers' grafiti in the bar fame)? It was the nearest Gulf fuel to the start of the 67 RAC and had been frequented by the Saab team etc on the 65 and 66 Gulf London Rallies before that moved to Manchester. No free Gulf fuel for others on the RAC, unlike the Gulf London, but maybe Scania Vabis, sponsored by Gulf but not allowed advertising on UK rallies prior to 68, had a deal there?
Presumably that's the Waldegard/Helmer 911 after the RAC cancellation (and after the trip to Brands, since the later Brands photos have a Jan 68 development date and the earlier ones Dec 67?).

[Gregor Marshall]

Originally posted by Thomas lundevall
Hallo,
Her is some more photos.
Thomas



All photos from this rally driver Lars Helmer private almbum, photo from somewhere in England.

Hi Thomas - do you know what date this picture was taken? Looks like coming out of the tunnel at Brands Hatch and is probably my late father when he was a wee bit slimmer!!

[RS2000]

Originally posted by Gregor Marshall

Hi Thomas - do you know what date this picture was taken? Looks like coming out of the tunnel at Brands Hatch and is probably my late father when he was a wee bit slimmer!!

Gregor, there's a bit of a clue on the left hand border of the photo as to when it was developed.
I'm guessing this Brands meeting was the day after the cancelled 67 RAC Rally was due to start (last weekend November or first weekend December).

I've also convinced myself the petrol station photo is where I suggested. I should have been quicker on the ID - since I delivered the Christmas post to all the buildings across the road, doing a school holiday job...

[Gregor Marshall]

I did half think that but the last race I have in 1967 at Brands in the Viva was 26th November - would someone take 3 months to finish and process a film?

[RS2000]

It all fits for me. The RAC photos are dated Dec 67, as are the first Brands photos. Later Brands photos are dated Jan 68. Suggests Lars Helmer or whoever else was taking the photos at Brands changed films there, got the earlier film developed immediately on return in December and the other film a bit later on when it was used up (need only be just over a month - maybe the rest of the photos on it are domestic Christmas shots! and it was taken in for developing first thing after New Year).
I'll check the RAC rally date but Brands on 26 November sounds right.

[Thomas lundevall]

Hallo,
Her is some more photos from Dec 67 and Jan 68 from the same album, I shell talk with Lars Helmer about the dates. This Porsche was Waldegårds private car, he was not driving that in rallys in England. He used that car
in Sweden and Norway for same rallis and for training.

[RS2000]

There was a swimming pool behind the white fence at one time.
I think gone or derelict by the time of this 1967 photo.

[glyn parham]

At last I have caught up with this thread and I have taken special interest in the Brands Hatch race photos which have now been confirmed as having been taken in November 1967.

I will now upset Andrew and his memory bank as the Bevan Imp is being driven by Peter Bevan, not Bill McG as quoted. George and Peter built the Imp as a replacement for Peter's A40 during 1967 and they could race in both the 850cc and 1 litre races by simply changing the engine. Bill didn't start driving for George until 1969 after Peter wrote the photographed car off in a huge end over end accident at (I think) Thruxton.

The white Mini is probably Jon Mowatt if the caption in Martyn Morgan Jones biography of George Bevan is to be believed but I do not have a race programme so cannot confirm that it is true.

Hope this doesn't add too much confusion to Andrew and Sterling

Glyn

[sterling49]

Originally posted by glyn parham
I will now upset Andrew and his memory bank as the Bevan Imp is being driven by Peter Bevan, not Bill McG as quoted. George and Peter built the Imp as a replacement for Peter's A40 during 1967 and they could race in both the 850cc and 1 litre races by simply changing the engine. Bill didn't start driving for George until 1969 after Peter wrote the photographed car off in a huge end over end accident at (I think) Thruxton.

The white Mini is probably Jon Mowatt if the caption in Martyn Morgan Jones biography of George Bevan is to be believed but I do not have a race programme so cannot confirm that it is true.

Hope this doesn't add too much confusion to Andrew and Sterling

Glyn

Thanks for the info Glyn, gee, and I thought we had it bad mate! I always wondered what happened to Peter as I used to watch him in that indecently quick A40, did he race again after the accident? I do not think I saw him driving again, although as this thread proves, I have been known to be wrong

Jon Mowatt is a name I had completely forgotten, watched him so often too!

[Andrew Kitson]

I have Bill McGovern listed as entries driving Peter Bevan's Imp in a couple of 1968 Snett programmes.

[Thomas lundevall]

Ove Andersson.



Pat-Moss Carlsson.



Waldegård and Helmer.

Photos taken at Gulf Rally 1967.

[Carles Bosch]

Originally posted by Thomas lundevall


Ove Andersson.



Pat-Moss Carlsson.



Waldegård and Helmer.

Photos taken at Gulf Rally 1967.

Brilliant pictures, as ever!


The guy perched on the lovely Anglia, in the second picture, is Simo Lampinen, if I'm not wrong.


Carles.

[RS2000]

Also Simo Lampinen in the Dunlop jacket in the last photo? (and the 67 winning car of Ove Andersson behind - the unusually-coloured "Ford Saluki Bronze" works Cortina).

Is the guy on the right in the first photo one of the two Saab team managers - both of whom had the first name Bo?

[Carles Bosch]

Originally posted by RS2000
Also Simo Lampinen in the Dunlop jacket in the last photo? (and the 67 winning car of Ove Andersson behind - the unusually-coloured "Ford Saluki Bronze" works Cortina).

Is the guy on the right in the first photo one of the two Saab team managers - both of whom had the first name Bo?

Of course! The guy in the Dunlop jacket is Simo Lampinen.

On the first picture the guys aside Ove Andersson could be Carl G. Orrenius & Gustaf Schröderheim, according to this picture that I've found when searching one of team manager Bo Hellberg:





This picture, published in Anders Turnberg's "From TWO-STROKE to TURBO" is taken after his victory in the '69 Hankkiralli.



Carles.

[RS2000]

Well done Carles! I guess Orrenius/Schroderheim tend to be the "forgotten" Saab crew. I had no recollection of what they looked like!
Now we need to identify the guy behind Bjorn Waldegard...!

[Carles Bosch]

Originally posted by RS2000
Well done Carles! I guess Orrenius/Schroderheim tend to be the "forgotten" Saab crew. I had no recollection of what they looked like!
Now we need to identify the guy behind Bjorn Waldegard...!

This one will be harder, I'm afraid...


Carles.

[glyn parham]

I have Bill McGovern listed as entries driving Peter Bevan's Imp in a couple of 1968 Snett programmes

Hi Andrew.

This makes perfect sense as Peter would have had his accident in about August/September of that year. George obviously didn't hang around as he had a new car built for 1969 and Bill was available after his drive with Emery had gone to the wall.

Sterling, Peter is still with us and still lives in Wilmington and is probably still terrorising the locals with his road driving antics You are right though he didn't race again after the accident although I think that Mrs Bevan might have had a lot say about it.

Glyn

[275 GTB-4]

Originally posted by Carles Bosch


Brilliant pictures, as ever!


The guy perched on the lovely Anglia, in the second picture, is Simo Lampinen, if I'm not wrong.


Carles.

I agree

Carles...maybe Simo should be careful where he sits looking at the doors and sills

[Carles Bosch]

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4


I agree

Carles...maybe Simo should be careful where he sits looking at the doors and sills

Back then, there were no MoT's, as clearly shows this Anglia.


Carles.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Carles Bosch




Back then, there were no MoT's, as clearly shows this Anglia.


Carles.

that car is probably only 5 years old when this photo taken, it shows how car makers have improved! We have a car in the family that is 12 years old (Fiat Brava) with not a spec of rust on it

If the sill and doors were like that, I wonder what the inner wings were like?

[RS2000]

Originally posted by Carles Bosch

Back then, there were no MoT's, as clearly shows this Anglia.
Carles.

But there were a lot of Anglias! - many with 1500 pre-Crossflow Cortina bocks bored to 1650cc. At least one ran on the Gulf in the Gp5/6 category.
On the 68 Gulf, one Anglia service car was navigated by a teenager just out of school. With 4 days and 3 nights on the road, with just a few one hour halts and one three hour halfway halt back in Manchester, even inexperienced new service crew members had to drive some of the time. One of them woke up to find the Anglia travelling along the grass central reservation of a dual carriageway road............then I realised it was me at the wheel......

[sterling49]

Originally posted by RS2000


Anglia travelling along the grass central reservation of a dual carriageway road............then I realised it was me at the wheel......

...been there! Usually coming back from Wales on the M4 on a Sunday morning :yawn:

[Mr Plug]

Originally posted by Peter Darley


The guy in the red anorak is John Glover, Competitions Manager of Champion Spark Plugs

Peter Darley

Jim Clark - Life at Team Lotus

John had a long and successful career with Champion, both in the UK and at Toledo Ohio. I have a memory of him locking a certain Mr Darley out of the Britax caravan at Silverstone, during the days of Mike Heath-Wise, so that drinking could continue unabated......

[RS2000]

Originally posted by Mr Plug John had a long and successful career with Champion, both in the UK and at Toledo Ohio.

Things were never the same when he moved on. In the post JG regime I was so insulted to be given only 4 free Champion spark plugs for one entire RAC Rally that I went out and paid for NGK from then on.
They didn't ever fail on me either, which is more than I could say for Champion's competition plugs...

[Fred Gallagher]

Originally posted by Thomas lundevall



Waldegård and Helmer.

Photos taken at Gulf Rally 1967. [/B]

I had a mail from Simo Lampinen today so took the opportunity to ask him who the man in yellow was. he said looks familiar but no idea. I then mailed Bjorn and got this reply: "Not sure but I think his name is Lars Persson and I also think he was codriver for Lars-Ingvar Ytterbring in a Mini."

Fred

[RS2000]

Ytterbring's co-driver I recall the name of was certainly Persson (both named Lars, which is one reason for remembering - it sort of flows when reading entry lists) but I wouldn't recognise him. Works Cooper S on at least one occasion and works help at other times (with a yellow/black roof car on 68 RAC?).

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

IIRC Ytterbring did the Circuit of

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

Ytterbring did the Circuit of Ireland navigated by his mother .

[Richw]

Excellent photos Thomas, I chanced upon them while looking for Abingdon's Cooper 'S', GRX311D I particularly like the one of the big Healey, many years since I last saw even a photo of that most charismatic of Healeys. Does anyone know if this car still exists, as I have seen the registration PWB57 on an Audi?

[Kevan]

Excellent photos Thomas, I chanced upon them while looking for Abingdon's Cooper 'S', GRX311D I particularly like the one of the big Healey, many years since I last saw even a photo of that most charismatic of Healeys. Does anyone know if this car still exists, as I have seen the registration PWB57 on an Audi?

Apparently later re-registered 'EG38' by Healey collector Arthur Carter- see here:
http://www.austin-he...mer-series.html

Edited by Kevan, 01 September 2009 - 14:47.

[Richw]

Apparently later re-registered 'EG38' by Healey collector Arthur Carter- see here:
http://www.austin-he...mer-series.html

Thanks very much Kevan, that looks like an interseting website.

[Thomas lundevall]

Lennart Svensk VW.

Edited by Thomas lundevall, 21 January 2011 - 14:51.

[RS2000]

Unusual for Foster and Skeffington to photograph roadside servicing - but more interesting than so many stage photos of familiar locations.

[Thomas lundevall]

Vic Elford Porsche 911S Gulf Rally 1967.

[Thomas lundevall]

Bengt Söderström and Åke Andersson with his Porsche 911.

[RS2000]

Thanks Thomas. With the UK no advertising on cars rule (except small entrant's name on sides) still in place until 1.1.68. (and enforced in FIA events, even F1), No.1 should have failed scrutineering!
I still can't confirm the registration numbers of the Soderstrom and Clark Cortinas. YVX***E for No.2.

[Thomas lundevall]

[Doug Nye]

[quote name='Thomas lundevall' date='Aug 21 2008, 15:05' post='3264148']
Hallo,
Her is some more photos.



Good heavens! The Brands Hatch startline shots are effectively the view over which I used to preside in the press box, which is the imposing piece of early Georgian architectural artistry featured in Thomas's shot here, to the left. In fact, I've got a feeling that might be me just visible through the window, serving at the bar that occupied this Paddock Bend end of the shack... Thanks Thomas for such unusually evocative shots. Shame the crowd has thought better of it...and have voted with their feet... The litter left behind? Bloody typical.
DCN

[Thomas lundevall]

John Sprinzel/Gerry Ryan MG Midget and Gunnar Blomqvist/ Ingela Blomqvist Cooper S.