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#1 MOTORSPORT RESORT

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Posted 20 September 2000 - 20:16

This "Important" car has gone through a real interesting prewar, and current restored life, can anyone help to document it's History, and todays status?

1939 Mercedes-Benz serial:#015 second last of the series...
....Peter

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#2 Don Capps

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 00:22

Ah, this is the second time this week this car has popped up in my field of view! Curious things are afoot....

'15' was the last W154 chassis built and was only used at Belgrade. Therefore, not so certain about the "interesting" pre-war history part. It was not one of the cars used in the Argentine races. However, it ended up in the hands of one Joska Roman -- said by some to be Ceausecu's dentist -- of Cluj, Romania who also managed to obtain '07' as well. Last I heard, '15' was in Switzerland somewhere. '07' (with M154/H10) went to Joel Finn and then to Sweden for Hans Thulin.

1939 Yugoslavia, Belgrade
date 1939/09/03 Race number 6
Finished 2nd, 7.6 seconds adrift Nuvolari
Chassis W154/15 werkes no. 189 445 komission no. 275 842
Engine M154/H10 w/H18 as a spare
Driver von Brauchitsch


#3 Barry Lake

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 00:36

Don
Can't you tell us what ratios were in the gearbox when it raced in Yugoslavia - and the number of louvres in the bonnet?
Just kidding.

#4 MOTORSPORT RESORT

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 07:21

If someone can tell me how to post a few pictures, You then can count how many louvre's..gear ratios? How about tyre pressure?
These are mostly current photos after the restoration at MB factory...

#5 paulb

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 13:29

MOTORSPORT RESORT,

You need to have the pictures on any website, then copy the url. After the url text, no spaces, put [/img]. Before the url text, no spaces, put [img]. I had to explain it backwards to get the tags to show. Use preview reply to make sure it works. Good luck.

#6 Don Capps

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 15:37

Here, once again, is the bare bones data on W154 cars so y'all can be experts -- and I will see what I can do about the gearboxes, gear ratios, superchargers, tire pressures and the rest... :) , maybe with some assistance from Karl...:


Mercedes W154 chassis log
Chassis / werks nr. / Kommission nr.
W154/1 / 189 431/ 275 828
W154/2 / 189 432/ 275 829
W154/3 / 189 433/ 275 830
W154/4 / 189 434/ 275 831
W154/5 / 189 435/ 275 832
W154/6 / 189 436/ 275 833
W154/7 / 189 437/ 275 834
W154/8 / 189 438/ 275 835
W154/9 / 189 439/ 275 836
W154/10 / 189 440/ 275 937
W154/11 / 189 441/ 275 838
W154/12 / 189 442/ 275 839
W154/13 / 189 443/ 275 840
W154/14 / 189 444/ 275 841
W154/15 / 189 445/ 275 842
W154/16 / 189 443/ 275 840 *'13' renumbered


Mercedes W154 race log

* Training = today's practice

1938 Pau
W154/2 M154/H4 Caracciola
W154/5 M154/H6 Lang

1938 Tripoli
W154/9 M154/H9 Caracciola
W154/8 M154/H8 von Brauchitsch
W154/2 M154/H4 Lang
W154/5 M154/H6 & H7 training
W154/11 M154/H11 training

1938 France
W154/10 M154/H10 Caracciola
W154/4 M154/H12 von Brauchitsch
W154/2 M154/H11 Lang (used M154/H6 in training)
W154/5 M154/H7 training

1938 Germany
W154/10 M154/H10 Caracciola
W154/4 M154/H12 von Brauchitsch
W154/2 M154/H4 Lang
W154/7 M154/H11 Seaman
W154/1 M154/H2 training
W154/14 M154/H7 training
W154/8 M154/H8 reserve

1938 Coppa Ciano
W154/14 M154/H3 Caracciola
W154/9 M154/H13 Lang
W154/5 M154/H5 von Brauchitsch
W154/10 M154/H10 training

1938 Coppa Acerbo
W154/8 M154/H8 Caracciola
W154/2 M154/H7 Lang
W154/4 M154/H12 von Brauchitsch
W154/10 M154/H10 training

1938 Switzerland
W154/5 M154/H2 von Brauchitsch
W154/14 M154/H14 Caracciola
W154/6 M154/H5 Lang (used M154/H13 in training)
W154/7 M154/H2 Seaman
W154/10 M154/H10 training

1938 Italy
W154/6 M154/H10 von Brauchitsch (used M154/H2 in training)
W154/14 M154/H11 Caracciola
W154/12 M154/H3 Seaman
W154/9 M154/H14 Lang
W154/1 M154/H18 training

1938 Donington
W154/10 M154/H6 Baumer
W154/6 M154/H5 von Brauchitsch
W154/4 M154/H18 Lang (used M154/H15 in training)
W154/7 M154/H9 Seaman
W154/12 M154/H2 training

1939 Pau
W154/9 M154/H16 Caracciola
W154/5 M154/H6 von Brauchitsch
W154/7 M154/H17 Lang
W154/10 M154/H15 training

1939 Eifelrennen
W154/10 M154/H6 Caracciola
W154/9 M163/K2 von Brauchitsch
W154/7 M154/H17 Lang
W154/5 M154/H19 Seaman
W154/6 M154/H15 Hartmann
W154/11 M154/H20 reserve

1939 Belgium
W154/10 M154/H20 Caracciola
W154/7 M154/H15 Lang (used M154/H19 in training)
W154/9 M163/K2 von Brauchitsch
W154/5 M154/H14 Seaman
W154/6 M154/H16 reserve

1939 France
W154/6 M154/H17 Caracciola (used M163/K3 in training)
W154/9 M154/H11 von Brauchitsch
W154/8 M154/H6 Lang
W154/1 M154/H15 training
W154/10 M154/H6 training

1939 Germany
W154/10 M154/H20 Caracciola
W154/6 M154/H17 von Brauchitsch
W154/7 M154/H9 Lang (used M163/K1 in training)
W154/4 M163/K2 Brendel
W154/1 M154/H15 training
W154/8 M154/H14 training

1939 Switzerland
W154/9 M163/K2 von Brauchitsch
W154/6 M154/H9 Hartmann
W154/10 M154/H20 Caracciola
W154/7 M163/K3 Lang (used M163/K1 in training)
W154/8 M163/K3 training
(also used M154/H15)

1939 Yugoslavia
W154/8 M163/K1 Lang
W154/15 M154/H10 von Brauchitsch (M154/H18 in reserve)

And I will add the Argentine cars later should anyone be interested.