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#601 Phil Rainford

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 20:06

At the bike meeting today two things struck me

1. Shell is a fantastic spot for sidecars

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2. Steve Jones has the patience of a Saint to make this model from paper :eek:

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#602 Simon Arron

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 21:04

A couple of observations:

1) The crumpled Arrows is from the second OP Aurora meeting of 1979, on June 29-30. Rupert Keegan went straight on at Lodge but wasn't badly injured. I witnessed the accident and it looked pretty horrible - there wasn't much run-off area back then and it was a pleasant surprise to discover he hadn't broken anything.

2) Is a paper P160 more reliable than a real one?

#603 Alan Cox

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 22:26

2) Is a paper P160 more reliable than a real one?

And does it have a more effective crumple zone than the real one?

#604 Phil Rainford

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 22:30

Might of course have struggled at Monaco in 72 in paper format .....

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#605 Stephen W

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 13:38

Might of course have struggled at Monaco in 72 in paper format .....

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Mind you the French would have allowed it to run with a canopy!


#606 pressman

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 15:38

Might of course have struggled at Monaco in 72 in paper format .....

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Its OK Phil it waterproof glue !

#607 pressman

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 13:43

Hi
I`v been asked to identify this photo
its obviously Oulton and Formula Ford but who and what year ?
I think 1969 ....
Cheers
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#608 Mallory Dan

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 14:12

No. 68's signed Racing Preparations Ltd I think. Does this imply a Royale, RP2 maybe?

#609 alansart

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 14:29

Car 76 on the left, I think, is Ray Allen. Dark helmet with white peak.

#610 Alan Cox

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 16:45

Car 76 on the left, I think, is Ray Allen. Dark helmet with white peak.

Winner of the first-ever Formula Ford race (assuming, of course, Alan's ID is correct :) ).

#611 Gav Astill

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 19:22

Changes aplenty in evidence today.....


New crossing or very small Motor Bridge


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I have it on reliable authority that over the coming winter a new footbridge is to be built here (i.e. where the 'Eagle Star' one was)

Hooray!



#612 Phil Rainford

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 20:44

Now that would be a result :up:


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#613 elansprint72

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 22:03

Now that would be a result :up:


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Um, that would be quite a span, due to the short-sighted placement of the medical centre and heli-pad. Not that I've been asked (as a one-time Mech. Eng. designer of bridges, gantries and such-like) my inclination would be to fly over the opposite end of the pits straight, at least 1/3 less span required and therefore 1/2 the cost.... of course I would also build a covered grandstand opposite to the pits and charge 10 shillings entry fee.
Seriously; have the numbers been evaluated?


#614 Gav Astill

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 22:07

Um, that would be quite a span, due to the short-sighted placement of the medical centre and heli-pad. Not that I've been asked (as a one-time Mech. Eng. designer of bridges, gantries and such-like) my inclination would be to fly over the opposite end of the pits straight, at least 1/3 less span required and therefore 1/2 the cost.... of course I would also build a covered grandstand opposite to the pits and charge 10 shillings entry fee.
Seriously; have the numbers been evaluated?

OK, it might be not exactly where the Eagle Star bridge was (it's that long ago that I can't remember exactly where it was), but its in that general vicinity and my source is impeccable

#615 elansprint72

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 22:16

OK, it might be not exactly where the Eagle Star bridge was (it's that long ago that I can't remember exactly where it was), but its in that general vicinity and my source is impeccable

Your source might well be impeccable but they clearly have not done the numbers correctly. I suspect that "Consultants" might have been involved. :rolleyes:

Was the "Eagle Star" bridge not the same thing as "The Motor" bridge? The cut-off steel-work elevations of that bridge are still available to trip over on the side opposite to the medic building, btw. :)

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#616 Gav Astill

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 22:44

Your source might well be impeccable but they clearly have not done the numbers correctly. I suspect that "Consultants" might have been involved. :rolleyes:

Was the "Eagle Star" bridge not the same thing as "The Motor" bridge? The cut-off steel-work elevations of that bridge are still available to trip over on the side opposite the medic building, btw. :)

How dare you mention the 'C' word on this forum!

Yes you are right, it was the same thing as 'The Motor' bridge (possibly only Eagle Star in its final years, or possibly I'm getting confused, again)

#617 Phil Rainford

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 21:31

Steve was a "multi tasking" today in the Press Box

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#618 Alan Cox

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 14:10

At the Gold Cup meeting I was pleased to meet an old friend in the shape of Michael Clark, who used to be a permanent fixture in one corner the old Oulton press box alongside his great pal Rex Dillon. between them, they would lap chart every race and time as many cars as their collection of stopwatches would allow for no particular purpose other than their sheer enthusiasm. Sadly, Rex is now long-departed and Michael has only recently returned to the (new) press box to take up his lap-charting once again. Some years ago I posted a photo of Rex on this thread but it disappeared some time ago, so I repost it here for no reason other than as a reminder of a much-missed, all-round good bloke. He was also noted as the wearer of the jacket with more sponsors' badges than any other, mainly obtained from teams in exchange for some timing services. He was such a well-known character that Michael reminded me that there was even a wreath at his funeral sent by JYS, on behalf of him and his family.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 21:06

Just thought I would bump this post forward again. Any info would be most welcome. What became of Tom Dooley's records etc?

Roger Lund


I'll have a look in my late dads collection, he had most programmes from meeting number 1 up until the 1970's and his mum used to lap chart and list results too...fingers crossed :clap:

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#620 Giraffe

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 18:48

Police photographer Maurice Bruton attended the 1968 Gold Cup, and was at the scene of crime to record this collision between the Mini Cooper of John Rhodes and the Tony Dean entered Lotus Cortina of Barry Pearson........

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The Falcons of eventual winner Brian Muir & Roy Pearpoint head the field.....

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Gordon Spice in his Equipe Arden 1 litre Mini....

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Graham Hill had a go in the supercharged Alan Mann Escort before crash damage on lap 14 curtailed his race...

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Les Nash manages to lose control of his Anglia heading up to Clay Hill...

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#621 alansart

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:00

Police photographer Maurice Bruton attended the 1968 Gold Cup, and was at the scene of crime to record this collision between the Mini Cooper of John Rhodes and the Tony Dean entered Lotus Cortina of Barry Pearson........


Excellent Tony and a big thank you to Maurice for letting you show them all to us.

I think Phil Hosker might be interested in some of these for the Oulton archive :)


#622 Giraffe

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:04

This 1968 photo by Maurice Bruton captures the essence of Oulton Park for me.....

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Fangio escorts winner Jackie Stewart on his lap of honour....

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#623 alansart

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:07

This 1968 photo by Maurice Bruton captures the essence of Oulton Park for me.....
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Although I applaud what Jonathon Palmer has done to Oulton Park I do miss the grassed Paddock :|


#624 Giraffe

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:36

Maurice is quite a character, now long retired from the Police, he is a life long motor sports enthusiast with homes in Spain & the UK. In his 70s, he drives an immaculate factory special Porsche 924S that I believe was once owned by Derek Bell. His photo archive is immense, and he is currently attempting to digitalise it all before he returns to Spain for the winter. I have only shown you what he gave me for my research, but I will try to catch him before he leaves the UK, and ask him if I can post more of his wonderful collection.

Next up, the 1968 Tourist Trophy.....

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#625 Giraffe

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:41

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#626 pressman

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 19:58

Brilliant !!
Thanks Tony :up: :up:

#627 Alan Cox

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 23:20

Brilliant !!
Thanks Tony :up: :up:

Sentiments echoed :up: Why can't sports cars still be like that??

#628 John Ginger

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 13:19

Thank-you from me too Tony, superb photo's

Please be sure to pass on our thanks to Maurice also, if you are able to

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 16:53

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Very poignant given what would happen at the TT meeting the following year . :(

#630 Giraffe

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 16:58

Can anyone identify the guy pictured with JoBo & Hawkeye? I feel I should know him.......

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 19:34

Those shots of the F1s into knickerbrook with the crowd so close are terrifying......

#632 David McKinney

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:11

Looks worse than it was. The spectators would have been standing on a bank, so if the worst happened a car would hit the bank, not the people. Always a danger from flying debris, of course, but as I said, not as dangerous as it looks

#633 Stephen W

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:20

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Those shots of the F1s into knickerbrook with the crowd so close are terrifying......


Between the track and the spectators there were:

(a) grass run-off
(b) a grass bank with a roughly vertical face
© some more grass
(d) and finally a fence

With the crowd on the same level as the track if any debris was to have cleared the bank it would also tend to clear the spectooters.

Accidents at Knickerbrook tended to end up to the left of this shot so it really isn't indicative of the modern concept of dangerous.

It wasn't terrifying to stand there by the way it was exhilerating.



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Posted 05 November 2012 - 13:02

It wasn't terrifying to stand there by the way it was exhilerating.


And the same feeling for the drivers too, negotiating Knickerbrook! While spectator safety might have been percieved as fine at that corner though, a mechanical failure for the driver while heading flat out towards it would have been terrifying I bet.

#635 alansart

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 13:42

And the same feeling for the drivers too, negotiating Knickerbrook! While spectator safety might have been percieved as fine at that corner though, a mechanical failure for the driver while heading flat out towards it would have been terrifying I bet.


Which is why the chicane was added following the Paul Warwick's dreadful accident.




#636 Stephen W

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:02

Which is why the chicane was added following the Paul Warwick's dreadful accident.


Some 22 years later.

#637 alansart

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:32

Some 22 years later.


The Warwick accident was in 1991. I believe the Chicane before Knickerbrook was added in 1992.

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#638 David Beard

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:46

Brilliant !!
Thanks Tony :up: :up:


Yes, really interesting set of shots :)

#639 David McKinney

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 16:51

The Warwick accident was in 1991. I believe the Chicane before Knickerbrook was added in 1992.

I certainly thought it was as a direct result of the Warwick accident

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#640 Gav Astill

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 19:02

I certainly thought it was as a direct result of the Warwick accident

That and Andrew Colson's fatal accident at the same corner the previous month in a Formula Renault test session

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 19:41

"It wasn't terrifying to stand there by the way it was exhilerating."

Couldn't agree more! It's the run-off areas and chicken wire fences that have kept me away from most circuits since the late 1970s.

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#642 Giraffe

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 15:31

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#643 alansart

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 15:51

Some colour shots taken by Maurice Bruton at the 1968 Gold Cup.......

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Pity we don't get the current crop of Grand Prix racers doing there stuff at the Park anymore. There again......

Thought I'd enhance Graham's colour a bit :)

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#644 Stephen W

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:29

Some colour shots taken by Maurice Bruton at the 1968 Gold Cup.......

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He must of been stood very close to where I was as my shorts are very similar.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:52

He must of been stood very close to where I was as my shorts are very similar.

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Can't really see Maurice in shorts, Stephen. :blush:

#646 Phil Rainford

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:29

Oulton looked magnificent in the November sunshine yesterday and for the first time in 20 years the circuit was run in reverse

This led to some interesting driving and photo opportunites especially at Lodge :)


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 14:59

Hi Phil
Great Pics
Graham Petch Has kindly let me post some of his photos.
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Please check out Grahams son Mike`s Website MPhotographic.co.uk
Cheers
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#648 Alan Cox

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 16:33

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Splendid photos from a wonderful era, Steve. Please thank Graham.
31st March 1972 - Tom Pryce (Royale RP11) leads from Tony Trimmer (JPS Lotus 73), Andy Sutcliffe (GRD 372), James Hunt (March 723), Ian Ashley (Royale RP11), Colin Vandervell (Ensign LNF3), Peter Hull (Brabham BT38) with race-winner Roger Williamson tucked away in about tenth place.
What a great crowd for an early-season F3 meeting.

#649 Phil Rainford

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 16:38

Splendid photos from a wonderful era, Steve. Please thank Graham.


Just you wait Alan..........Steve, Mr Arron , Mr Raine and I sat down yesterday at Oulton with a cup of tea each and started looking at Graham's pictures

Next thing we know it is pitch black and virtually everyone has gone home :rotfl:


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#650 pressman

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 16:53

Yes and you eat all my biscuits !
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