The Odesy uses too much gas and extremely poor tire wear. The rear camber gain is like and old VW beetle swing axle.
Originally posted by Canuck
And while I'm ranting about vehicle availability - why is it you can have your European whatsit in 52 flavours of gasoline, diesel or Flex fuel, 14 different transmissions, 43 choices of engines, 72 variations of body style for any given model family and 64,000 different colours but only if you live in Europe. Those same whatsit brands are here but the cars come in silver, grey, greyish silver, dark silver, metallic grey silver and silvery metallic greyish. They use $15/gallon gas, come with 700 speed automatics, snobby dealers and are only available as coupes or sedans and powered with emission-choked imitations of their European cousins?
I have 2 kids, 2 car seats, a wife and a dog that outweighs any two of the others you want to to put together. We're a family. We go places together. Sometimes we go to far-away places together - dog and all. I don't want a testicular-crushing, estrogen-emitting minivan. I don't care if it seats the Waltons, all their pets and has fancy automatic doors on both sides and the rear. I aint' getting one. I won't! I. Still. Have. My. Nuts. Damn You! But that doesn't mean I want an SUV either. Why can't I get a station wagon that doesn't look like the faux wood panelling stickers just fell off? Why can't I have a wagon that intimidates the neighbour's wife and causes her to make rude caveman jokes about me? Why does having a family in North America condemn you to driving cars designed by eunichs?