Personal photos of British club racing
#851
Posted 10 October 2008 - 19:08
Before Dan goes off on the totally the wrong track ......a New Year Day Rallycross meeting was cancelled ,due to a heavy fall of snow just after the meeting had started.
As we had to wait some four hours for our lift home, the toilet was the only building that gave us any shelter.
"I Spy" became extremely boring by the time we entered the fourth hour ;)
Kind regards
Phil
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#852
Posted 10 October 2008 - 19:30
I have no idea what year, maybe you do?
#853
Posted 10 October 2008 - 22:01
I'd go for 1978, but then again I would as I assisted Brian Lennox - the driver of Car 21 - and he only did the one season of Sp2000, after many years of FF1600. He retired from racing after that and some years later left his native Dublin and now runs a guest house in SussexOriginally posted by Paul Hurdsfield
Some more Oulton piccies from me, as usual from the outside of Knickerbrook
I have no idea what year, maybe you do?
#854
Posted 10 October 2008 - 22:18
It's amazing what a quick glimpse and immediate posting can do to ones credibility
1. Brian drove a Sp2000 and they don't have wings.
2. His was a Lola T492 and this thing looks more like a Tiga at the front I'm probably wrong there too.
The race number 21 and style of number is right though.
So with my total cock up in the previous post, 1978 is a lot less definite than I thought it was.
Sorry to have spoiled this thread. I won't even guess now at the last car in the Longridge photo being Rick O'Reilly's Haggispeed Clubmans car
I'm off to bed now in a state of complete shame.
#855
Posted 11 October 2008 - 07:19
Pete
#856
Posted 11 October 2008 - 07:37
#857
Posted 11 October 2008 - 08:09
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Could it be Thundersports, around 1985/86 ish?
Could be a Libre race? :
#858
Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:12
Pete
#859
Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:31
Originally posted by petestenning
If its Thundersports, 27 could be Graham Chapmans Mallock as that ran in Thundersports races and the colour scheme is familiar to me .
Pete
Number looks spot on.....
...despite Mr Arron's best efforts with helmet modifications the Mallock failed to restart ;)
Kind regards
Phil
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#860
Posted 11 October 2008 - 11:32
Maybe I should go back in the loft and dig out my old programs.
Trouble is I've got to get this bl**dy Westfield finished, the wife's started to complain about the amount of time I'm spending in the garage ;)
#862
Posted 13 October 2008 - 10:31
Yeah, I'd go with T'Sports too Andy, maybe a year or 2 earlier though, 1984-85? From memory the Clubmans cars didn't do too many races after 85. The Tiga's not the Chamberlain/Hoy Hart turbo car is it?
And as for the Longridge Gents, Phil, you weren't anywhere near a Cottage were you...
#863
Posted 15 October 2008 - 19:40
Originally posted by Gregor Marshall
I'd love too but there's about 30 minutes of it and I don't know how to "cut" the DVD, sorry!! The Southern TNFers can watch it on Monday at the Biggleswade meet; maybe we can do a transcript like the recent Joe Kinnear journalist rant!!
Biggleswade? Eh? Sorry, just woken up here.... someone mention summat going on 3 miles away....???
Rob.
#864
Posted 15 October 2008 - 20:14
Originally posted by racing59
Biggleswade? Eh? Sorry, just woken up here.... someone mention summat going on 3 miles away....???
Rob.
You missed it Rob! Monday evening passed, look at this thread:
http://forums.autosp...&threadid=74373
You will kick yourself for missing it, catch it next meeting, all are welcome!
#865
Posted 15 October 2008 - 21:19
And another from 1991 at Cadwell...
#866
Posted 15 October 2008 - 21:26
Gregor, I know it sounds back to front and cack-handed etc, but if you can copy the DVD to VHS then edit that on another tape with the bits you want, then copy that onto a DVD.Originally posted by Gregor Marshall
I'd love too but there's about 30 minutes of it and I don't know how to "cut" the DVD, sorry!! The Southern TNFers can watch it on Monday at the Biggleswade meet; maybe we can do a transcript like the recent Joe Kinnear journalist rant!!
Roger Lund.
#867
Posted 15 October 2008 - 22:07
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Could it be Thundersports, around 1985/86 ish?
This is the Gus Young / John Fyda Tiga; Thundersports 85. Used by Robert Parker & Martin Birrane in 1986.
#868
Posted 16 October 2008 - 08:55
Originally posted by racing59
Biggleswade? Eh? Sorry, just woken up here.... someone mention summat going on 3 miles away....???
Rob.
Rob - you should have come, that would have made three PH memebers too!! Look out for the next one, probably January time I beleive.
Nice pic of your Belmont and Nova, not sure of the baby blue of the Belmont though!!
#869
Posted 16 October 2008 - 08:57
Originally posted by bradbury west
Gregor, I know it sounds back to front and cack-handed etc, but if you can copy the DVD to VHS then edit that on another tape with the bits you want, then copy that onto a DVD.
Roger Lund.
Roger - sounds straight-forwards but unfortunately I haven't got the apparatus, I give the videos to a friend and two weeks later I get a bag of DVDs, it's like magic to me!!
#870
Posted 19 October 2008 - 16:41
Graham Hill's then-mechanic, Ian Flux in Formula Vee at Aintree.
This Formula Libre U2, driven by Richard Mallock and here by Frank Sytner captured my inagination at the time. I think he's leading John Wingfield, F2 Brabham.
Bruce Coate-Bond, Formula 4 Ensign
One for "Diz" - his protege, Eddie Jordan
#871
Posted 21 October 2008 - 14:20
Thanks Alan.Originally posted by Alan Cox
One for "Diz" - his protege, Eddie Jordan
#872
Posted 24 October 2008 - 19:41
#873
Posted 24 October 2008 - 20:14
British Saloon Car Championship, Silverstone 1977: Jeff Allam leads the great Geraldo...
The BSCC 125 miles farther north, October 1978: Jeff Allam leads the Esso Capris of Vince Woodman and Jonathan Buncombe.
Woodman and the full, undiluted glory of the bygone Oulton Park paddock (plus a fragment of the lamented Motor bridge).
Tony Dron (works Dolomite Sprint) breezes past Oulton's verdant parking lot...
...and a Dolomite-flavoured quiz. Chris Craft (Capri) leads John Fitzpatrick's Dolomite... but Fitz isn't driving on this occasion. Who is it?
#874
Posted 25 October 2008 - 06:55
I think around that era Whizzo drove a number of one off races in other peoples cars.
#875
Posted 25 October 2008 - 07:36
#876
Posted 25 October 2008 - 08:16
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just off to watch a SEMSEC meeting at Lydden...
#877
Posted 26 October 2008 - 11:08
James Bilsland's vividly verdant MG Midget.
George Fowler (Jamun T9) leads John Lord (Jedi Mk6), Dafydd Tony Davies (Van Diemen FR1700) and Chris Scott (Alpa FR94). The Jedi would return to first place within one corner...
Local legend Bill Richards in his Mini Clubman.
Jacob Greaves (Radical SR4) applies a sliver of opposite lock under pressure from Simon Ham (Radical Prosport).
Locost driver Andrew Goord - possibly distracted by Radical rival Andrew Greenfield's kerb-straddling technique.
Echoes of Reg Ward... Mary Grinham tackles Paddock Bend.
The immaculate Royale RP21 of David Brise (son of Tim).
Major cause for exultation - the pink-and-lime racing livery pioneered on Roy Yates's Ford Zodiac is alive and well on John Chaplin's MGB GT.
#878
Posted 26 October 2008 - 11:36
#879
Posted 26 October 2008 - 12:00
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Seen at Lydden Circuit in yesterday's (partial) time warp...
Locost driver Andrew Goord - possibly distracted by Radical rival Andrew Greenfield's kerb-straddling technique.
The immaculate Royale RP21 of David Brise (son of Tim).
I wonder if Andrew Greenfield's Invisabilty Cloak is MSA approved!
The RP21 does look familiar - did David buy it from a bloke in Yorkshire?
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#880
Posted 26 October 2008 - 13:59
Copying and moving Mr Arron's shot from another thread thought I would add these two shots and create a trio of McLaren M19As.
Firstly John Foulston....
..followed by James Wallis.
While just to add to the early 1970s feel....
.....David McLaughin ( Lotus 72)
Kind regards
Phil
#881
Posted 26 October 2008 - 16:50
Not that I noticed. Mind you, a) I didn't spot a press room and b) I don't imagine many of the Lydden posse will be at Interlagos next Sunday (unless Bill Richards has entered his Mini for one of the support races, of course).Originally posted by Alan Cox
Any other F1 "hacks" in the press room at Lydden yesterday, Simon?
#882
Posted 27 October 2008 - 08:30
Woodman and the full, undiluted glory of the bygone Oulton Park paddock (plus a fragment of the lamented Motor bridge).
And in the background is the late (not very lamented) Oulton Park Lollipop under control of a marshal.
This was held up when cars were in the Deer Leap dip and lowered when the dip was clear, so the pit lane marshals knew it was safe to release cars!
I once spent a whole 4 hour relay doing that, no wonder I have a strong right arem (no sniggering!)
#883
Posted 27 October 2008 - 21:54
This reply is really aimed at Pressman, Mondiale M85S and Gregor Marshall.
You'll have to go back to late August Pressman but you posted a video of the Uniroyal ProdSports race in Oulton in '83 with a certain TR6 providing almost all the entertainment http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=u8YRr-eMFRo
Well Mondiale M85S you were right, I'm Richard Morrant and I was indeed (sort of) driving that day, and I did also enjoy a monster spin at Woodcote that seemed to go on for ever!
I know that I do have a sequence of black and white photos stashed away somewhere that show the spin right from the Gary Wright (Lotus 7) tap to the tyre smoking finish a few hundred yards later; I'll post them as soon as I find them.
Some of the other drivers in that race were your Dad Gregor in the Lotus Esprit, Ian Jacobs in the tasteful green Jensen Healey with Gary White, John Stenning and Maynard Soares in the Lotus 7's.
Honestly I was truely taken aback that anyone would remember me at all, speechless, so thanks to you all and if you want to be bored I have a few pics and a couple of racing tales to pass on.
#884
Posted 28 October 2008 - 06:53
Pete 'Stennng'
#885
Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:22
I assume this is Gerry M in the Esprit, or did other people drive it during the campaign? Answers on a postcard please, Gregor.
I think I posted this previously, much farther north in the thread: Ian Jacobs's Matra Bagheera. I subsequently tested Ian's Jensen Healey at Brands Hatch, but came in after a couple of laps because the oil temperature looked a bit suspect. He insisted it wouldn't be a problem, but I invited him to do a lap or two himself, as a precautioin, because I really didn't want to blow it up. Thee minutes later, he did...
And finally Richard Morrant's TR6, pictured both fore...
...and aft. I can't recall whether our paths ever crossed, Richard. I became MN's club racing editor in June 1982 and have a feeling I once wrote a small story about the Triumph, but my mind might be playing tricks.
#886
Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:51
As far as I know the car was always in the dark blue and white ICS colours (the car was built by Mr Rouse for Mr Hall) and they both raced it before Dad did.
I have the registration at home so will check that too but it's possible your picture could be someone else.
#887
Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:55
Simon - Fantastic shots, you've brought tears to my eyes. That round at Mallory was my second ever race and I was still an over-confident 22 year old (I'm now an over-confident 49 year old!).
And I am sure we did meet as I think you drove my car at Goodwood and you kindly let me have a few laps in your orange Lotus7. It was at that point I suddenly understood how a 1600cc car was capable of crawling all over my 2500cc car!
I'm at work now so must dash, but I'll catch up with some photos and a few stories.
Rich.
#888
Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:23
Must be another Simon... I never owned an orange Lotus 7 and I didn't try your TR6! I'm sure we probably chatted in the paddock, though.
Gregor, the Lotus is at Mallory, not Oulton, and I have a feeling Pete Hall probably was the driver.
Cheers,
SA
#889
Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:31
Would be interested if it was Pete in those colours but could be.
#890
Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:37
I have in my last batch of programmes an Entry in a 2 hour endurance race for Special Saloons at Snetterton on 6th July 1967 BRSCC Festival of Saloon cars .
Car no 35 Entrant -Barnet Motor Company Ltd
Car Austin Mini 848cc drivers G Marshall and A J Keefe
Questions are as Gerry was according to the programme the current 850 cc saloon car Lap Record Holder did he win his class ?
2nd is that a misprint and should the other driver be Andy O'Keefe who i believe came form the Herts area also.?
Pete
#891
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:12
Originally posted by Grip Racing
Hi All,
This reply is really aimed at Pressman, Mondiale M85S and Gregor Marshall.
You'll have to go back to late August Pressman but you posted a video of the Uniroyal ProdSports race in Oulton in '83 with a certain TR6 providing almost all the entertainment http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=u8YRr-eMFRo
Well Mondiale M85S you were right, I'm Richard Morrant and I was indeed (sort of) driving that day, and I did also enjoyed a monster spin at Woodcote that seemed to go on for ever!
I know that I do have a sequence of black and white photos stashed away somewhere that show the spin right from the Gary Wright (Lotus 7) tap to the tyre smoking finish a few hundred yards later; I'll post them as soon as I find them.
Some of the other drivers in that race were your Dad Gregor in the Lotus Esprit, Ian Jacobs in the tasteful green Jensen Healey with Gary White, John Stenning and Maynard Soares in the Lotus 7's.
Honestly I was truely taken aback that anyone would remember me at all, speechless, so thanks to you all and if you want to be bored I have a few pics and a couple of racing tales to pass on.
Hi Richard
Glad you enjoyed the video.
If you raced at Oulton from 1983/ 1990 I`m almost sure to have some footage of you .
But I need the dates as I gave my programs away.!
Cheers
Steve.
#892
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:13
#893
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:17
Originally posted by petestenning
Gregor i need some info if you have it please.
I have in my last batch of programmes an Entry in a 2 hour endurance race for Special Saloons at Snetterton on 6th July 1967 BRSCC Festival of Saloon cars .
Car no 35 Entrant -Barnet Motor Company Ltd
Car Austin Mini 848cc drivers G Marshall and A J Keefe
Questions are as Gerry was according to the programme the current 850 cc saloon car Lap Record Holder did he win his class ?
2nd is that a misprint and should the other driver be Andy O'Keefe who i believe came form the Herts area also.?
Pete
Well that's a new race date for me so thank you Pete!! I have several brilliant A4 b&w photos from the grid at Snetterton in 1967, with Dad talking to his co-driver in a Mini (next to them looks like Jim Clark, it can't be though, so I'd be interested to know the entries) and the photos must be from this event; when I get home tonight I will check to see if there’s a race number.
In Bill Blydenstein's 850 Mini he won (class and/or race) on four occasions and I know one of those was at Snetterton but not sure of definite dates and I don’t know the other events. He definitely raced something at Snetterton on the 11th June in the BRSCC Special Saloon Car up to 850cc race and won (I have an engraved silver cigarette box); could be a Mini but don't know for sure as he did race an Imp for Alan Fraser in '67 but I don't know when and where.
The second question I'd say that the programme is correct and it is a gentleman called Alan Keefe who now lives in France and was a great friend of Dad’s back then.
#894
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:31
That was my one and only visit to Oulton Park I'm afraid and I was black flagged as I completed my 4th lap there for spinning at the same bend, three times in a row, while not actually racing anyone!
Turned out that one of the rear damper mounts had sheared off (still used the old lever-arm type then), but that's not much of an excuse I know...
The last time I raced at Oulton though was in August this year at the CSCC meeting. My brother races a Series1 XJ6 in the JEC Championship so I hired another car (an XJ40) and joined in for the one race. Was an absolute monsoon during our race but got second in class which I was dead chuffed with.
I've just looked at how to include a photograph but it seems to have to be at a web address ( http//: ) so not sure what to do with any that I have stored here on the computer? I'll see if I can work it out.
Rich
#895
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:42
Originally posted by Grip Racing
n class which I was dead chuffed with.
I've just looked at how to include a photograph but it seems to have to be at a web address ( http//: ) so not sure what to do with any that I have stored here on the computer? I'll see if I can work it out.
Rich
Rich,
Look Here.http://forums.autosp...&threadid=70638 It tells you how to post images via a 3rd party.
#896
Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:50
Rich.
#897
Posted 28 October 2008 - 13:24
This is the Jag at Oulton in August (sorry - the only pic I have here on my work computer).
Now I know what I'm doing with photos I'll get busy at home and find some proper ones from the 80's.
Rich.
#898
Posted 28 October 2008 - 13:34
#899
Posted 28 October 2008 - 13:44
I will mail you a copy of the entry list for this Snetteron race.
The car should have been white according to the entry.
There s also and entry for another from BM CO again an 850 in the Redex race earlier in the prog. driven by T. Moore and red in colour.
Pete
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#900
Posted 28 October 2008 - 13:44
It is indeed Howard Kirkhams car that I hired. Also drove it at Snetterton on Sun 19th Oct in the 40 Minute 2 driver race with Howard.
Following a bit of a carambriolage at the start of the JEC race at Brands in the summer Howard had a break from racing with the JEC, so as his car was just sitting there in the garage we agreed a hire fee and I took it out at Oulton.
Wettest race I have ever driven and as well as getting a decent result I was very pleased to be able to give Howard the car back in one piece...
Do you know Howard or any of the JEC drivers?
Rich.