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#3201 alansart

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:11

Commentator Brian Kreisky must have struggled to contain his glee at seeing another frightening accident that he could peddle on the next Havoc video


I always thought that Ralph Firman, Adrian Reynard & Alan Cornock looked at the Festival as a huge cash cow. The spares sales after the weekend must have been huge although I suppose some of the damage was to their own works cars :)


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#3202 Mallory Dan

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:19

Out of my 60-65,000 negatives and slides, I have only two photos of Nigel Mansell in his Formula Ford days - It seems his charisma eluded me even then!
Here is one of those rarities, from Mallory Park
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Is this the soaking wet mid-August meeting Alan? I don't recall NM out too often at MP that year.

#3203 MCS

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:24

Is this the soaking wet mid-August meeting Alan? I don't recall NM out too often at MP that year.


Possibly because he had broken his "back/neck" at Brands (but carried on racing with his cockpit basically made into a bed).

#3204 MCS

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:33

Commentator Brian Kreisky must have struggled to contain his glee at seeing another frightening accident that he could peddle on the next Havoc video

No doubt – none whatsoever, actually. Less said, the better.

I always thought that Ralph Firman, Adrian Reynard & Alan Cornock looked at the Festival as a huge cash cow. The spares sales after the weekend must have been huge although I suppose some of the damage was to their own works cars :)

We could debate this (and I could tell stories – but not on here). The Festival was viewed as the sales pitch for the following season. They wanted to win, desperately.
But as for the races (the various rounds of the championships), that was a very different story – even to the point of some drivers having been offered free cars to cause occasional damage. I am not joking.



#3205 Mallory Dan

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:46

Frenchman in an RP24 wasn't well liked around this time Mark...

#3206 Chris Townsend

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 20:26

Frenchman in an RP24 wasn't well liked around this time Mark...


I don't recall Sarazin as being any harder than most of the other front runners in '77...

#3207 DogEarred

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 06:37

But as for the races (the various rounds of the championships), that was a very different story – even to the point of some drivers having been offered free cars to cause occasional damage. I am not joking.
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There was incompetent driving a plenty in those days. It hardly needed a helping hand. So much bad driving went unpunished too.

#3208 Stephen W

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:01

But as for the races (the various rounds of the championships), that was a very different story – even to the point of some drivers having been offered free cars to cause occasional damage. I am not joking.


I know that some of the 'works teams' targeted quick amateurs and had them run off the road. If there was any damage to the 'works' car then a 'new' car would be available at the next meeting whilst the amateur may well be out for months on end.

#3209 Alan Cox

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 15:33

Men and machines in perfect harmony - albeit not the quickest approach to Lodge Corner. David Yates and Roger Saunders, Dolly Sprints
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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:35

Drifting is not exclusively Japanese then...

Great shot, Alan!

#3211 MCS

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:41

What a great picture. :up:

I am assuming that was Production Saloons as opposed to Group One? I was probably submerged by then.

#3212 Alan Cox

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:59

I am assuming that was Production Saloons as opposed to Group One?

Indeed it was, Mark

#3213 elansprint72

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 22:21

I don't recall Sarazin as being any harder than most of the other front runners in '77...

That is not my recollection.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 22:22

Men and machines in perfect harmony - albeit not the quickest approach to Lodge Corner. David Yates and Roger Saunders, Dolly Sprints
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Was this meeting sponsored by WD40?  ;)

#3215 Mallory Dan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:51

!978, Alan? First Dolly in Prodsaloons anyone?

#3216 Stephen W

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:56

Drifting is not exclusively Japanese then...


Certainly not, apparently there was a 'drifting event' at Pembrey the last weekend in May and the track was a mess.

#3217 MCS

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:56

!978, Alan? First Dolly in Prodsaloons anyone?


Tony Hill?


#3218 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:59

!978, Alan? First Dolly in Prodsaloons anyone?


I think that's 1979, as I think David Jess Yates car was my Dad's 1978 car.
Bob Saunders for first Dolly maybe?

#3219 MCS

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:06

I think that's 1979, as I think David Jess Yates car was my Dad's 1978 car.
Bob Saunders for first Dolly maybe?

Wasn't Tony Hill 1977...?


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#3220 Mallory Dan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 12:25

Saunders was who I was thinking of, 1974 or 75 I think. The Tinsley Robor Group, I wondered what they were, sounded very exciting!!

#3221 Alan Cox

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 13:24

I think that's 1979, as I think David Jess Yates car was my Dad's 1978 car.
Bob Saunders for first Dolly maybe?

I think Saunders' was the first Dolomite I remember seeing - in Mimosa Yellow then, of course. The No 27 car in my photo has an Equipe Esso sunstrip on the windscreen; could that be an ex-Gerry car, too?

1982 Oulton Park - Dave Price engages Martin Brundle in debate
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#3222 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 07:57

Back to the Gachot shunt for a moment...

Gochot in the wrong squeezing the yellow car into the wall. Though in the end there was still one wheel left on the car so it was not super serious :lol:

#3223 alansart

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:21

Gochot in the wrong squeezing the yellow car into the wall. Though in the end there was still one wheel left on the car so it was not super serious :lol:


Just looked at that again and noticed at the back of the grid a car weaves between others and looks like he starts a row further forward than he should of. They start the race when there are 4 cars on row 7!!


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:34

Men and machines in perfect harmony - albeit not the quickest approach to Lodge Corner. David Yates and Roger Saunders, Dolly Sprints
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At least it looks like it ended better than similar approach by Gerry Marshall and Gerry Johnson (?) in the Firenzas, where one spun and was hit head on by the other.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 21:41

Just looked at that again and noticed at the back of the grid a car weaves between others and looks like he starts a row further forward than he should of. They start the race when there are 4 cars on row 7!!

4 cars per row were the norm when I first went to Oulton (inc F1). The karts were six wide not too many years later........... :smoking:



#3226 Alan Cox

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:25

Another of the aforementioned Mr Yates, here with the late John Myerscough, Old Hall Corner, Oulton Park
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 17:24

Here's a picture of someone's Diva at Snetterton - And just because I worked for Diva for about a year doesn't mean I know/remember who drove what where & when!

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 17:38

Some pictures of Richard Groombridge and his Hustler; chassis by Richard Scott who used to be chassis man at Diva, Richard Groombridge was the fibre-glazier, while I was a poor excuse for a mechanic - The car was put together in the garage of the widow on the others side of the Kingston Bye-pass in Raynes Park.

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Only a misfire kept him in second place in this race.

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Copse Corner Silverstone - ©Harold Barker 1967 (Of whom I can find no trace). I believe the driver of the U2 is Spud Murphy.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 17:46

The Thomas Motors of Blackpool Lotus 30 at, I think, the Scott-Brown Memorial Trophy race at Snetterton, John Berry driving - The mechanics look happy, I doubt the driver did after the race...

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How times have changed! This was the late 60s and drivers were still trailing there cars to meetings behind vehicles like the Austin Somerset in the back-ground.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:00

Lydden Hill - Bob Curl in the BT18 Brabham modified and rebodied for Len Marchant to use in FF.

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Does the airbox look familiar?

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#3231 Bloggsworth

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:08

Paul Rendle's Mk11A Merlyn in a parking meter bay outside our squat in Harley Street facing the wrong way in a one-way street - I was changing the gear ratios before a Bank Holiday Brands meeting. A police patrol car cruised up and stopped beside me; instead of throwing the book at me they enquired as to whether I was going to take it round the block to check if it was all working - They said they would look the other way - I declined their generous offer! It's one thing doing it in a village in the depths of Hertfordshire quite another in central London!

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:24

Paul Rendle's F3 T56 Cooper at Silverstone in 1964 on the day he came second to the works Alexis driven by Keith Vickery. On the way to the circuit, somewhere around Milton Keynes, the towing eye on the trailer broke leaving the car and trailer careering down the road all on its lonesome; fortunately the apex of the trailer chassis managed to find a nice soft pile of grit in which to embed itself. Luckily we had enough rope in the boot to tie it to the rear bumper of the Humber Super Snipe with which we were towing the outfit. See enlargement - I still use the toolbox, which I bought when I joined Lotus in 1963, in the boot.

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Note towing bracket bolted to the bumper, no extra scaffolding required!

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#3233 Alan Cox

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:34

©Harold Barker 1967 (Of whom I can find no trace).

I think you will find that Ted Walker has acquired the Harold Barker archive

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:42

Chris Moore and his, then fiancée, Gabby, plus friends.

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I wonder if the autograph hunter still follows the sport. This is Chris with his Lotus 41 in which he won his first race; unfortunately it was also the beginning of his troubles. After the race he told me that his left arm had gone to sleep; I looked around to see if I could see a bolt head or similar which might have been pressing on a nerve, and for the next race wrapped the adjacent chassis tubes in foam, to no avail; it transpired that it was the first affects of the brain tumour which was to kill him about 12 months later. Sometimes motor-racing is less dangerous than just living.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:51

I suppose I may as well chuck in one of me in my first ever race, in which I came 8th. I was driving what Autosport described as "The Odd Bodied Merlyn", the nose was damaged when I bought it, the finned shape was the cheap alternative to buying a Mk11A nose and rechristening the car a Mk11/11A. It was a Mk11 nail picked up for about £500 in early 1971; Bob Curl persuaded Chris Steele to sell me one of the old long-stroke 1600s for a not unreasonable price - Total outlay about £800 - OK it wasn't competitive, but then, neither was I...

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 00:09

Great little stories there, Bloggsworth. Sad about Chris Moore, though.

#3237 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:41

Bloggsworth, great pics thanks. The John Berry Lotus 30 is not depicted at the Good Friday ASB trophy meeting, although it was there as #12 on entry list. This is a month later, a BRSCC clubbie on May 1st 1966, when Berry won the combined Sports racing & clubmans race..but the car is entered as a type 40. A chap named Max Mosley came ninth in his Meadspeed U2. The Diva is the same day I think, the car of Ian Alexander.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:04

Bloggsworth, great pics thanks. The John Berry Lotus 30 is not depicted at the Good Friday ASB trophy meeting, although it was there as #12 on entry list. This is a month later, a BRSCC clubbie on May 1st 1966, when Berry won the combined Sports racing & clubmans race..but the car is entered as a type 40. A chap named Max Mosley came ninth in his Meadspeed U2. The Diva is the same day I think, the car of Ian Alexander.


As far as I remember, the only real difference between the 30 and the 40 was that the 40 had fallen even further behind the competition... Clearly I would have been wrong about the happiness of the driver; winning is always good!

You are right about the meeting, I've never used a diary, so just rely on memory for dates.

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#3239 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:39

Paul Rendle's F3 T56 Cooper at Silverstone in 1964 on the day he came second to the works Alexis driven by Keith Vickery.

Quite advanced thinking on reinforced roll-over protection for 1964, methinks

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#3240 Allen Brown

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:03

Chris Moore and his, then fiancée, Gabby, plus friends.

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I wonder if the autograph hunter still follows the sport. This is Chris with his Lotus 41 in which he won his first race; unfortunately it was also the beginning of his troubles. After the race he told me that his left arm had gone to sleep; I looked around to see if I could see a bolt head or similar which might have been pressing on a nerve, and for the next race wrapped the adjacent chassis tubes in foam, to no avail; it transpired that it was the first affects of the brain tumour which was to kill him about 12 months later. Sometimes motor-racing is less dangerous than just living.

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Isn't that his Brabham BT15 from early 1966? Judging by the number on the car, this may be the Oulton Park race at the beginning of June.

I am curious why Moore swapped backwards and forwards between the Lotus and the Brabham that year? Was the Brabham second hand?

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 15:58

Isn't that his Brabham BT15 from early 1966? Judging by the number on the car, this may be the Oulton Park race at the beginning of June.

I am curious why Moore swapped backwards and forwards between the Lotus and the Brabham that year? Was the Brabham second hand?


If I was there it wasn't Oulton Park. The Brabham was, I think, 2nd hand and wasn't very competitive; after changing to the 41 he was immediately more competitive. If it was a BT15 it may have been converted to a BT18 rear set-up.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 16:04

Quite advanced thinking on reinforced roll-over protection for 1964, methinks


The car was bought from Roy Lane in Manchester and we fitted it with seat belts and a proper roll hoop - I saw no point in a roll hoop that wasn't fully supported. The bending & welding was done by the blacksmith in Widford, on that occasion we didn't drive the car from Much Hadham to Widford and back, though we once did to check a misfire.

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#3243 Cirrus

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 16:10

If I was there it wasn't Oulton Park. The Brabham was, I think, 2nd hand and wasn't very competitive; after changing to the 41 he was immediately more competitive. If it was a BT15 it may have been converted to a BT18 rear set-up.


The BT15 in the picture appears to have an original BT15 rear suspension setup with the short rear uprights and the bottom wishbone picking up part of the way up the rear of the chassis.

#3244 Allen Brown

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 17:08

If I was there it wasn't Oulton Park. The Brabham was, I think, 2nd hand and wasn't very competitive; after changing to the 41 he was immediately more competitive. If it was a BT15 it may have been converted to a BT18 rear set-up.


OK, not Oulton then! As Cirrus says, the rear suspension looks original. The top radius rod mounting on the chassis is higher up than standard but there's a debate whether BT15s had two optional pickups.

Any clues who Chris might have bought it from? There are several unexplained BT15s around at that time. Or any idea who he might have sold it to?


#3245 Bloggsworth

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 17:43

OK, not Oulton then! As Cirrus says, the rear suspension looks original. The top radius rod mounting on the chassis is higher up than standard but there's a debate whether BT15s had two optional pickups.

Any clues who Chris might have bought it from? There are several unexplained BT15s around at that time. Or any idea who he might have sold it to?


I just turned up on Sundays when he needed hands, no idea when, where or what in the buying and selling department.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:17

I have nothing to post from the "old" days of motorsport; but I love looking at all of these pictures and hearing the stories that accompany them. Therefore, my contribution to this thread (unless you are interested in what I did this weekend during the BARC race meeting at Silverstone) is to say a big thank you:)

#3247 Gary Whitelegg

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 20:36

[quote name='alansart' date='Oct 21 2009, 07:40' post='3947819']
Welcome Gary. There's a few old faces from Oulton Park on here.

Whatever happened to Nick Havard? Always a smile on his face no matter what.

Alan, Ive not heard fron Nick in years, driving some of his cars were challenging...but, running cars with no money did not help

Not been on here for a while....long story. Memories are fantastic of the CofO series and Formula E.

any more photos of me anywhere? I dont have many myself

#3248 Alan Cox

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:08

Gosh, no posts on this thread since July 2013. I shall remedy that with this pic from 24th May 1981 (32 years ago, no less) from Oulton and the MCD 200 Sports 2000 race

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The Robin Smith/Laurence Jacobson Chevron B52 and the Mike Taylor Tiga


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#3249 Mallory Dan

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:21

Great stuff Alan. That was the 1st ever 'Jock Chevron' as I recall. And interesting to see Taylor has dispensed with his Tiga's spats. Was this the long-distance S2000 race, who won do you remember?



#3250 Alan Cox

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:50

Dan, Q1: Yes Q2: No