Best of the rest in 2008
#1
Posted 29 February 2008 - 17:29
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#2
Posted 29 February 2008 - 17:40
I voted Williams. Clutching at straws for evidence, but...
Fisi said the Renault engine is noticeably weaker than the Ferrari. That will hurt Renault and Red Bull all year.
Williams still have the infrastructure and culture of a big team, and the leadership, I think that will keep them ahead of Toyota. Also the driver lineup looks good.
BMW have cocked up the design, I suspect.
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 17:46
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 17:47
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 18:10
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 18:20
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 18:27
#8
Posted 29 February 2008 - 23:28
I've been waiting and waiting for this thread...thankyou
#9
Posted 29 February 2008 - 23:43
#10
Posted 29 February 2008 - 23:47
Williams
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 23:50
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 00:11
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 01:25
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 13:14
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 13:31
#16
Posted 01 March 2008 - 19:19
I have my doubts about BMW this year. I think they took a gamble with their design and it hasn't panned out all that well.Originally posted by shonguiz
No way williams could do better than BMW.
From last week: http://f1.gpupdate.n...regrets-at-bmw/
Besides that, I think BMW may have some reliability issues with their gearbox. We'll see.BMW Sauber technical director Willy Rampf says there are no regrets at his team about taking a radical approach with its 2008 car, despite the trouble the team has had getting up to speed.
"This approach was the only option to close the gap to the front-runners," Rampf told the official F1 webste. "You don't get to the front by being conservative. Formula One is on a level that forces you to take calculated risks and that's exactly what we've done."
"There is no doubt the new car is considerably faster than the old one, but it's more difficult to exploit its full potential at any given time and condition," he added. We still need to udnerstand the car better and are learning every day."
#17
Posted 01 March 2008 - 21:13
#18
Posted 01 March 2008 - 21:14
Yes. You don`t need downforce in fast cornersOriginally posted by SeanValen
BMW will strong on long straights and any tracks where there's more fast corners then slow corners. I don't think they'll find the downforce Ferrari and Mclaren have. But they'll be close maybe.
#19
Posted 01 March 2008 - 21:17
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#20
Posted 01 March 2008 - 22:02
I think 2008 will be a good year for both Williams and Red Bull, who between them will take third or fourth. RBR have the pace and hopefully the reliability to make progress this season!
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 22:10
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 22:13
#23
Posted 02 March 2008 - 01:01
Originally posted by coyoteBR
Heart says Williams, Reason says Renault.
I'll copy that but switch it around - heart says Renault, reason says BMW/Williams. :
#24
Posted 02 March 2008 - 09:42
So Toyota 3rd in 2008?
Yes, but only when Glock will deliver good results also.
#25
Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:12
Because I love them.
#26
Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:53
A tad contradictory; you're saying the car is built for JT, who will be clear #1, then saying TG needs to deliver. If your first claim is true then TG is at a big disadvantage from day one.Originally posted by Jarulas
I`ve never heard Trulli so enthusiastic about car he drives. In latest autosport Q&A he mentioned that team is listening him more than ever, so he will be clearly no.1 driver this season. Car is built to suit him not Ralf and that makes big difference. In 2005 he was better that Ralf in first part of season till they introduced TF105B with revised front suspension, which helped Ralf a lot.
So Toyota 3rd in 2008?
Yes, but only when Glock will deliver good results also.
#27
Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:40
RBR will show speed from time to time, as will Toyota, but over the season I think that Renault with the steadying hands of Alonso and Pat Symonds, will be the closest rival to BMW. Their only deficiency will be the (possible) lack of a strong number 2, as PK jr is at this point surely not on the same level as NH or RK week in, week out.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 12:42
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 16:11
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 16:47
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:30
#32
Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:02
I can't wait until the first race.
#33
Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:18
Originally posted by HSJ
BMW. Even if the listed teams have equal cars, BMW have the best driver pairing.
and in the face of such stupidity, I think Alonso will assure Renault finish at least 3rd. They could surprise even further, I'm actually tipping it. Yet even if they don't, it will be 3rd. The car will be good enough and Alonso is head and shoulders above anyone else (outside of Ferrari and McLaren drivers) except for probably Rosberg who will be strong with the Williams.
#34
Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:22
#35
Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:28
I know the testing is "only testing" but with this year's weird-loooking car in February they were overall 8th and 13th at Jerez, and 18th and 21st at Barca.
http://www.autosport...onth/2#circuit1
#36
Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:46
Originally posted by undersquare
I can't help thinking that people are picking BMW on the basis of last year rather than this.
I know the testing is "only testing" but with this year's weird-loooking car in February they were overall 8th and 13th at Jerez, and 18th and 21st at Barca.
http://www.autosport...onth/2#circuit1
You're right. I voted BMW but I don't know why. ( 2007 I guess )
They have shown nothing all winter.
Toyota looked good last test, but I'd like to see them show some pace more than once before I'm convinced.
Doesn't mean they aren't fast it just means the proof isn't conclusive yet.
That leaves Williams Renault & Red Bull.
Alonso will be an asset but I think Williams & RBR might just have a touch more pace in their cars early days.
Development throughout the year? Who knows.
#37
Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:01
If BMW have totally cocked it up though, it'll be Williams.
#38
Posted 03 March 2008 - 18:41
#39
Posted 03 March 2008 - 18:50
Originally posted by OSX
Voted for BMW but like many I wish it will be Williams, though they'll more likely will be competing for the fourth place with Red Bull.
same here
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#40
Posted 03 March 2008 - 19:55
But the order I would prefer personally: Williams, BMW, Renault, Red Bull