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#851 Phil Rainford

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:28

...and everything else he's raced: Cooper T43, Cooper T51, B-Type Connaught, Maserati 250F, 300S, C-Type Jag, Lightweight E-type, March 712, Tyrrell P34...etc etc



Way out of my comfort zone.......the angle of the car suggest Mr Stretton? David and Alan HELP!! :blush:


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#852 David McKinney

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 14:08

Confirmed also by his posture and hat colour :)

#853 Tony Matthews

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 14:50

Subjects are David Caroline (Morgan) and Martin Stretton (Frazer Nash).


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I've never been to Cadwell, and if those barns have gone it is a great shame. Lovely photo, thanks.

#854 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:51

Way out of my comfort zone.......the angle of the car suggest Mr Stretton? David and Alan HELP!! :blush:


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Chuck it in and drive it out. He is a natural for dirttrack speedway!!

#855 Barry Boor

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:26

Surely cars like that weren't actually meant to be driven like that? :)

#856 bradbury west

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:18

I believe it is a natural characteristic of the FN which is chain driven, ie a set of 4 parallel, geared, chain-sets for its gearbox, and has no diff. as such. A photo or line drawing of the arrangement makes it clear IIRC.
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#857 Tony Matthews

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:51

I believe it is a natural characteristic of the FN which is chain driven, ie a set of 4 parallel, geared, chain-sets for its gearbox, and has no diff. as such. A photo or line drawing of the arrangement makes it clear IIRC.
Roger Lund

Indeed, a solid back axle, so at least one of the rear tyres has to move at a different speed to the road surface when cornering. I think Barry was more concerned about the extreme cornering of an old, interesting car! At least it's not on beaded-edge tyres... No doubt AFN would have been pleased to see it, though!

#858 Giraffe

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 11:14

It rather reminds me of a pic of a Routemaster bus on a skidpan! :eek:

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 14:39

I believe it is a natural characteristic of the FN which is chain driven, ie a set of 4 parallel, geared, chain-sets for its gearbox, and has no diff. as such. A photo or line drawing of the arrangement makes it clear IIRC.
Roger Lund


Roger, if one looks at the James Allington cutaway od the FN "Shelsley" , it does have a diff, and the gearbox is actually housed in the hubs of each of the chain sprockets.
Each chain set actually has its own ratio,....I think
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#860 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 17:44

The following is an extract from Peter Giddings' excellent website which goes some way to explaining the attitude adopted by Mr Stretton's 'Nash. Peter, as many people here will know, is a very experienced, and successful, historic racer who has owned and raced some iconic cars, Frazer Nash included.

Wheel spin is virtually unknown in the differential-less Frazer Nash and a special technique has to be learned in order to slide the car through bends. Typically, bends are approached at very high speed indeed, most of the slowing down being effected by the scrubbing off speed "dirt track" style technique that has to be utilized.



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Posted 18 April 2010 - 21:39

Roger, if one looks at the James Allington cutaway od the FN "Shelsley" , it does have a diff, and the gearbox is actually housed in the hubs of each of the chain sprockets.
Each chain set actually has its own ratio,....I think
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No cigar, I'm afraid.

#862 Tony Matthews

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 21:49

Roger, if one looks at the James Allington cutaway od the FN "Shelsley" , it does have a diff, and the gearbox is actually housed in the hubs of each of the chain sprockets.
Each chain set actually has its own ratio,....I think
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It isn't a diff, Marc, just a bevel box, with two sprockets each side, driving four sprockets on the solid rear axle. The front sprockets are free to spin on their shaft untill a dog inbetween the sprockets, keyed to the shaft, is slid sideways to engage a sprocket. That sprocket then drives the back axle, on which all the sprockets are keyed and pinch-bolted. The Shelsley had a further short chain assembly and gear system to allow a reverse gear - my GN just has four forward speeds.

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#863 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 07:03

Some pictures from the Masters 'Top Hat' meeting at Snetterton on Sunday, 18th April.

Vince Woodman's 1974 Cologne Capri and John Young's BMW CSL in the 'Stars of the 70s' race
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'Stars of the 70s' field, just like a good old fashioned special saloon race!
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Chris Scragg's ex-Broadspeed 1976 Jaguar XJ12 Coupe
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Mark Wright's 2-litre Escort, making a meal of Russell
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Mike Bell's RS1600 painted in 1973 Zakspeed livery
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Winner of the 'Stars of the 70s' race, Mike Wrigley's BDA powered Escort
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Austins display different cornering techniques in the 'Oldies but Goldies' event
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As does Graham Love's Jaguar Mk7
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Simon Drabble's Turner, entered in both the 'Stars of the 70s' race and the 'Cloth Cap' event
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Rowan Atkinson out for fun in the 'Top Hat' Pre '66 saloon race
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A mixed bunch approach Russell
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Richard Frankel had the tail out in both his Alfa GTA and also in his 1958 Guilietta in the '50s race
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Henry Mann in family liveried Cortina
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John Burton's XK120 in the 'Cloth Cap' race
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Whizzo Williams, outings in this Jaguar and in a Mini in the pre-66 Mini race
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Burton's XK120 leads an E-type in the 'Cloth Cap'
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Left hand drive Mini of Joey Greenan
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The Mini race also had a few Imp entries to bolster the thin field.
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#864 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 07:23

Any proper racing cars, Andrew?  ;)

#865 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 07:24

Not at that meeting Barry, it was a single seater free zone! But great entertainment.

#866 Alan Cox

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 08:08

What a fabulous 1970's field, Andrew. Looks well-supported. Nice pic of the Mk Vlll Jaguar.

#867 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 08:18

What a fabulous 1970's field, Andrew. Looks well-supported. Nice pic of the Mk Vlll Jaguar.

Thanks Alan. Just a pity they had to run silenced, the way of the 'better' modern world apparantly.


#868 Phil Rainford

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:21

Great shots Andy: that Cologne Capri is just the canine undercarriage :)


A few shots from a Ferrari Track Day at Silverstone yesterday that could qualify as historic.....


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The evergreen Jack Sears

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#869 Alan Cox

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 15:19

Another photo from Christie's Festival 1991 and the launch of "Mon ami, Mate" - This time Arnaud Delaunay is joined by Louise Collins
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#870 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 15:51

I always said that about Johnny Herbert.

#871 Tony Matthews

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 17:00

I always said that about Johnny Herbert.

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#872 Giraffe

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 17:17

I always said that about Johnny Herbert.


....And I thought he was about to appear in a new DFS furniture advert.............. :rolleyes:


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Posted 21 April 2010 - 19:43

I love this thread :clap: :) :up: :up: :turns off RC enthusiasm mode and crawls back under his little rock:

#874 David McKinney

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 21:36

Opening post's definition of 'Historic Festivals'

there is plenty of interesting subject matter from events such as the old Christie's/Coys festivals, the Gooodwood FoS and Revival, the Old Timer GP, L'Age d'Or, Laguna Seca, Le Mans Classic etc...

That seems to have been broadened into any historic race meeting
And now we're getting rallies
Where will it end?

#875 Duc-Man

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:08

Are the any meetings for historic Go-Carts? :wave:

#876 Giraffe

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:30

Are the any meetings for historic Go-Carts? :wave:

There was a Historic Kart Demonstration at Race Retro this year.

#877 Giraffe

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:33

Opening post's definition of 'Historic Festivals'


That seems to have been broadened into any historic race meeting
And now we're getting rallies
Where will it end?


Monte Carlo or Brescia?


#878 Duc-Man

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 09:07

And now for something completely different:
I know that the Trossi Monaco (or Monaco Trossi?) car was at the FoS in 2007.
Does anybody have pictures of the car driving or was it only on static display?

#879 Tim Murray

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 09:34

Definitely static display only - I'd have really loved to see (and hear) it run.

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#880 Phil Rainford

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 18:24

Opening post's definition of 'Historic Festivals'


That seems to have been broadened into any historic race meeting
And now we're getting rallies
Where will it end?


Fair point well made David....

I have deleted the post and created a bespoke thread on Historic Rallies :)


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#881 David McKinney

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 19:27

Well done that man :up:

#882 elansprint72

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 19:42

There was a Historic Kart Demonstration at Race Retro this year.


A pedant complained when I posted some photos from that event, stating it was not a festival. :rolleyes:


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:19

Does anyone have photos of the recent Lotus Club Show. Some very interesting historic cars in attendance. I missed it because of the volcano :-(

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 19:31

Before the pedant complains  ;) here is a shot from Aintree November 2004. My driver's pass describes the event as the Aintree FESTIVAL of Motorsport.
At the time we did not realise that this was the last time that cars would drive through Tatt's; I'm so glad that I took these shots; I've tried to be a bit arty-farty with the tilt and the Monochrome treatment. :smoking:

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 19:51

Chris Williams clearing his tubes, Cholmondeley 08. :smoking:

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#886 Giraffe

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 19:54

Chris Williams clearing his tubes, Cholmondeley 08. :smoking:


With Steven's favourite, Willie Green pondering the state of his knees in the background!


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 19:56

With Steven's favourite, Willie Green pondering the state of his knees in the background!


Not to mention Jane Dillon, with whom I work and Alex Postan, her other half. :)

#888 Phil Rainford

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 22:27

Chris Williams clearing his tubes, Cholmondeley 08. :smoking:



And all lit up in 2009 :)

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 22:51

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John Delane in Tyrell 002 at Brands Masters Festival.Some superb cars in action although the meeting was overshadowed by the accident to John Grant in the first Interserie race.Hoping he makes a full recovery.Not posted for a while now but been enjoying some great threads on here.

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Manfredo Rossi Brabham BT42 Masters Festival 2010 Brands Hatch

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Rob Hall Matra MS120C Masters Festival 2010 Brands Hatch

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 23:09

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Roger Wills Williams FW05 Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 23:20

Roger Wills Williams FW05 Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010
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Distinctly remember Jacky Ickx coming third in the 1976 ROC at Brands with a split visor in this type of car numbered #20, last time i saw this type of Wolf Williams in action was when Art Mezzarrio was pedalling it around the Nurburgring also in 1976.

Top picture autodelta58, thanks for sharing :-)

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 18:43

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Tom Walker Lola T160 Spyder Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010

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Leo Voyazides Lola T280 Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010.This car looks superb in the Gitanes livery.

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 19:03

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Frank Bradley March 717 Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010

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Roger wills/Joe Twyman-Bizzarini 5300 GT Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2010

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 19:30

Distinctly remember Jacky Ickx coming third in the 1976 ROC at Brands with a split visor in this type of car numbered #20...

I think your memory has failed you, as that particular Bell wasn't introduced until 1978.

Ickx was indeed an early-user of the twin eyeport/window - certainly not 'split visor' :eek: - when it became available, but the earliest appearance I can recall is 1978...

Lovely pics autodelta58 :up:

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 19:46

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 19:53

And all lit up in 2009 :)

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Fire AND smoke in 2010. :rotfl:

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