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#1101 elansprint72

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 20:23

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#1102 elansprint72

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 20:35

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#1103 onelung

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 21:26

Seems to be all the rage among 3 wheeler owners to fit their unidirectional tyres the wrong way round as a casual glance in google images under Morgan Super Sport will confirm here, also here, and here :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

May be 3 wheeler drivers only expect rain when they have reverse engaged ?


Any opinions out there, then, as to the "correct" orientation for the chevron tyres fitted to veteran cars? Most frequently they are fitted with the V's pointing forward at the top, which to my eye is aesthetcally pleasing. There is, however, the occasional gentle debate in the veteran car brigade about the "correct" direction.
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#1104 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 23:54

That is how I have seen they run them, Pete. Presumably they must be directional so the competitors must have some sort of dispensation and the cars behind have them the usual way, unless the one in the foreground has his wheels on the wrong side. Also the bike tyres are designed to allow for banking over. The only cars I recall designed to use tyres like that are the Camber Car, the Arnott sports racer and the Guidobaldi, but the modern tyres were not available in period.... unless anyone knows better.
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Supposedly those tyres brake better on the front the wrong way around. Some street performance radial tyres defenitly do, until it rains ofcourse.
Bike tyres on cars probably exceed the tyre load limits though.

#1105 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 23:58

Some of the more unusual sights at the HSCC's Walter Hayes Trophy meeting at Silverstone yesterday.....

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Steve Dunn's Austin A35

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Michael Ryman's DKW 3=6 & Chris Partington's Saab 86

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The DKW F12 of Tim Bishop

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BMW 2002tii of Joel Wykeham

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Brian Ashby's Emeryson Formula 1

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Younger brother of Ben Mitchell, 16 year old Sam made his racing debut in a Merlyn Mk20 in the Open Wheel 50km race and drove a sensible race in not ideal conditions. :up:

The A35 is cute!! And if NOT racing against Minis would probably be competitive in an under 1000 class.

#1106 elansprint72

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:42

Any opinions out there, then, as to the "correct" orientation for the chevron tyres fitted to veteran cars? Most frequently they are fitted with the V's pointing forward at the top, which to my eye is aesthetcally pleasing. There is, however, the occasional gentle debate in the veteran car brigade about the "correct" direction.
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That is the designed-in direction (as it usually says on the sidewalls) fitted this way, they are "self-cleaning" look at any tractor. :)

Edit: or mountain-bike front tyre! :)

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#1107 Speedy27

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:56

For those interested in historic events south of the equator, a big selection of my pics from the recent annual Sandown historic race meeting in Melbourne can be found at the following link :

http://www.flickr.co...57627237850531/

Enjoy :)

#1108 elansprint72

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 21:56

For those interested in historic events south of the equator, a big selection of my pics from the recent annual Sandown historic race meeting in Melbourne can be found at the following link :

http://www.flickr.co...57627237850531/

Enjoy :)


Thanks for putting those up; I recognise Rohan in the Elan.! :up:

#1109 Alan Cox

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 18:00

From the fabulous Aston Martin 30th anniversary celebration of their Le Mans win, held at Laguna Seca in 1989
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Looks like Mr Shelby was having a good time

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 15:51

Jochen Mass drove the Mercedes W154 at the Nürburgring "Eifelrennen" Historic Meeting 2008
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#1111 Alan Cox

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 17:12

What a supremely elegant car the W154 is in profile.

#1112 philhitchings

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 18:23

Been a long time...

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Whoops! wrong thread :confused:

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#1113 Alan Cox

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 22:33

I suggest that you post the Escort pic on this thread, Phil, and then you can delete the post from here. http://forums.autosp...p;#entry4995172

#1114 elansprint72

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 17:31

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Le Mans Classic 08

#1115 elansprint72

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 22:55

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Gallic shrug.

#1116 elansprint72

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 23:02

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#1117 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:17

What is that blue #72 ?

#1118 E1pix

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:27

Renault Alpine, aka, Renault A110.

#1119 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:34

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#1120 Louism

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:44

No, it's a DB with a twin cylinder Panhard engine.

DB is the association of Charles Deutsch (aerodynamic engineer later involved in different projects like 917 long tail) and René Bonnet (he established his own motor company before selling his business at Matra in 1965)

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#1121 Alan Cox

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 15:07

No, it's a DB with a twin cylinder Panhard engine.

Definitely - you can see that it retains the characteristic Panhard hubs. It's a DB HBR5 circa 1957/9 vintage.
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#1122 elansprint72

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 15:22

These things used to run in the Index of Thermal Efficiency category at Le Mans; a category designed to produce a French winner every year, unfortunately a certain Mr Chapman read the rules and upset the apple-panier (although not quite closely enough, as it turned out).

The overall winner usually completed 80-100 more laps than the DB Panhards... that is quite a margin.  ;)

#1123 E1pix

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 20:55

No, it's a DB with a twin cylinder Panhard engine...

Whoops, sorry for my mis-identification. :blush:

#1124 elansprint72

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 21:55

....una signora della notte...

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Le Mans Classic 2010.

#1125 RogerFrench

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:56

What a supremely elegant car the W154 is in profile.


I always have preferred the W125. The nose of the 154 doesn't quite do it for me.


#1126 E1pix

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:13

....una signora della notte...
Le Mans Classic 2010.

Cool photograph. :up:

#1127 Roger Clark

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:02

These things used to run in the Index of Thermal Efficiency category at Le Mans; a category designed to produce a French winner every year, unfortunately a certain Mr Chapman read the rules and upset the apple-panier (although not quite closely enough, as it turned out).

The overall winner usually completed 80-100 more laps than the DB Panhards... that is quite a margin.  ;)

I suspect you mean the Index of Performance rather than Thermal Efficiency. The Index of Performance dated back to the early days of the 24-hour race and was a simple handicap based on engine capacity. The Index of Thermal Efficiency was introduced in, I think, 1959 and was a much more complicated handicap, taking into account weight and fuel consumption.

DB cars won the Index of Performance every year from 1959 to 1961, and a CD (Charles Deutz) won in 1963.

Lotus won the Index of Performance in 1957 with an 11 powered by a 750cc Climax engines. They might have won it again in 1962 with a 23 but its wheels weren't fixed properly.

It is difficult to find winners of the Index of Thermal Efficiency, even Time and Two Seats doesn't seem to include it. Can anybody help?

#1128 Kpy

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:38

It is difficult to find winners of the Index of Thermal Efficiency, even Time and Two Seats doesn't seem to include it. Can anybody help?


The Index of Thermal Efficiency was created in 1959. Results are listed for every year in Quentin Spurring's excellent Le Mans Official History (three vols so far).
Winners in 1959 were Consten/Armagnac - DB HBR Spyder

#1129 Roger Clark

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:43

The Index of Thermal Efficiency was created in 1959. Results are listed for every year in Quentin Spurring's excellent Le Mans Official History (three vols so far).
Winners in 1959 were Consten/Armagnac - DB HBR Spyder

A different DB from the one that won the Index pf Performance.

#1130 Alan Cox

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:45

....una signora della notte...
Le Mans Classic 2010.

Presumably the ex-Rob Walker Dino 196S #0776, if the reg. no. is to be believed?

#1131 Louism

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 17:56

DB cars won the Index of Performance every year from 1959 to 1961, and a CD (Charles Deutz) won in 1963.

It is difficult to find winners of the Index of Thermal Efficiency, even Time and Two Seats doesn't seem to include it. Can anybody help?


Roger, CD = Charles Deutsch

You will find what you need here:

http://passionnemans...e/histoire.html

Regards
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#1132 Roger Clark

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 22:18

Roger, CD = Charles Deutsch


Regards
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Of course!!

Thaks for the reference. THe fuel consumption figures are fascinating.

#1133 Roger Clark

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 22:18

Roger, CD = Charles Deutsch


Regards
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Of course!!

Thaks for the reference. THe fuel consumption figures are fascinating.

#1134 elansprint72

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 23:51

Canapes and chrome...

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A day in the life of a jobbing snapper; one of these equals one hundred cold, wet, covered in mud or baked and thirsty, praying for a shower and a flush toilet. :smoking:

#1135 Alan Cox

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 17:08

Oulton Park June 1986
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The Hon Amschel Rothschild with his ex-Dutch GP-winning BRM P25
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Colin Crabbe with his Talbot-Lago T26C
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Man and machine in perfect harmony - One of my early VSCC heroes, Neil Corner with his ex-Phil Hill/Pat Hoare 246 Dino Ferrari, albeit running with non-original V12.

#1136 remus

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 18:53

Love that 246 photo Alan. It has some real drama about it.
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Maserati 250F & Ferrari 246 Dino, Richmond Trophy 2009 by christopha 200, on Flickr

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Alfetta by christopha 200, on Flickr

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250F drifting by christopha 200, on Flickr

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 19:45

Lovely capture of the body-language on the cars through Deer Leap, Alan, super stuff.
Roger Lund
BTW the Hon Victoria Watson shot, elsewhere, tested the memory somewhat.....

#1138 Alan Cox

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 19:56

Thank you for your comments, Chris and Roger. Nice photos, too, Chris. The Dino shot is still one of my favourites, and I'm chuffed to say that Neil Corner himself liked it, too.
If I hadn't taken the Victoria Watson photo myself, I don't think I would have known who she was.

#1139 Phil Rainford

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 21:51

Thank you for your comments, Chris and Roger. Nice photos, too, Chris. The Dino shot is still one of my favourites, and I'm chuffed to say that Neil Corner himself liked it, too.


Without doubt in the Top Ten Alan Cox pictures :)



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Posted 15 April 2012 - 13:34

Man and machine in perfect harmony - One of my early VSCC heroes, Neil Corner with his ex-Phil Hill/Pat Hoare 246 Dino Ferrari, albeit running with non-original V12.


Superb.

My favourite car/driver combination I've seen racing in historics.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 15:48

Hockenheim Historic on Friday.
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I have to pass on the drivers names.

#1142 Pink Snail

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 20:28

The Yardley McLaren is driven/owned by Joaquin Folch who races in the HFO with one of BCEs Brabham Fords and the Matra is being pedalled by owner/driver Abba Kogan who has to have the largest personal collection of anything Matra and has run in the HFO in a Warsteiner Arrows and a Saudia Williams amongst others. Abba and Joaquin have quite a few F1 cars between them and a fewof Abba`s are kept in the Donington collection.
The TOJ F1 car re-appeared on the Historic scene last year and I can`t remember who drives it, will come back on that one!

#1143 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:18

I think it's a Trojan. I don't remember Toj ever building an F.1 car.

#1144 David McKinney

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:48

Wasn't there a connection between the Kauhsen F1 car and Toj?

#1145 elansprint72

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 13:40

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#1146 timf5000

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 14:23

[quote name='Barry Boor' date='Apr 16 2012, 06:18' post='5664681']
I think it's a Trojan. I don't remember Toj ever building an F.1 car.
Barry, you're correct. It is the Trojan T103 and Toj never built an F1.


#1147 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:55

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April 1990 - VSCC Silverstone. Ludovic Lindsay gets the jump on Chris Mayman (Connaught B) and Anthony Mayman (Lotus 16)
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A youthful Ludovic Lindsay...
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...and Nick Mason
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Historic racing heaven! Cadwell Park in the August sunshine, 1990. Bill Morris (ERA GP2) leads Paul Jaye (Alta) past the barn
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Mike Sparken debuts his newly-restored Alfetta at VSCC April Silverstone 1990
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Here he discusses details with DSJ
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Another from Cadwell - Doug Marr with his Maserati V8RI...
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...powered by this
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Martin Morris (ERA R11B) on pole at Cadwell

#1148 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 13:14

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#1149 Alan Cox

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 17:50

1987 Richard Seaman Trophies and AMOC meetings at Oulton Park
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Surely one of the most elegantly-proportioned front-engined GP cars, John Harper in Anthony Mayman's BRM P25
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All arms and elbows, Roddy Macpherson and his Cooper Bristol

A trio of GP cars on the approach to Lodge Corner
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Neil Corner, V12 Ferrari
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Anthony Mayman, Lotus 16
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The Hon Amschel Rothschild, BRM P25

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#1150 Barry Boor

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 18:08

100% agreement from me on the B.R.M comment, Alan.