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#1151 alansart

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 18:32

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All arms and elbows, Roddy McPherson and his Cooper-Bristol


I really like this batch. 80's Historic racing at it's best.

The paying public can't sit on their camping chairs anymore at Lodge (and see anything) but if you head off to Knickerbrook there's still a few that are keeping the tradition alive... and long may it continue :)

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#1152 Phil Rainford

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 18:38

I really like this batch. 80's Historic racing at it's best.

The paying public can't sit on their camping chairs anymore at Lodge (and see anything) but if you head off to Knickerbrook there's still a few that are keeping the tradition alive... and long may it continue :)


Also tents have become quite the fashion at Knickerbrook ...great photos Alan :)

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#1153 Alan Cox

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 20:29

Thank you for your kind comments, gents. Plenty more where they came from when scanning time allows.

#1154 Lola5000

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 21:19

Great photos of Neil Corners Dino,when i was young in Australia,he was also one of my racing heros.
What is he up to these days?

#1155 David McKinney

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 21:47

... if you head off to Knickerbrook there's still a few that are keeping the tradition alive

...except that it's not Knickerbrook any more :cry:


#1156 Stephen W

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:34

The paying public can't sit on their camping chairs anymore at Lodge (and see anything) but if you head off to Knickerbrook there's still a few that are keeping the tradition alive... and long may it continue :)


Also tents have become quite the fashion at Knickerbrook ...great photos Alan :)


...except that it's not Knickerbrook any more :cry:


Having visited Oulton Park for the first time since 1996 I have to admit that some aspects of the venue are vastly improved. However from a spectator's point of view there are some major changes that have made the place considerably worse. The outside of Lodge is a nightmare unless you can wangle a Media Pass. Down at Old Hall it isn't much better. Finally what the heck have they done to Knicker Brook? All that catch netting is so un-necessary now that they have the chicane thingy yet it still obscures the view.

I did notice on the back of the programme that the area opposite Cascades is now called Knickerbrook although it is also called "Hizzy's Chicane" - come on make your minds up! I also noticed that the bit just after Lodge is now called "Dear Leep" - must be the cost of all that catch netting that has brought on the change!

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#1157 Alan Cox

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:11

16 September 1984 - Old Hall Corner, Oulton Park
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Willie Green with Bruce Halford's Lotus 16


#1158 Alan Cox

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 20:33

Idyllic scene - the Cadwell Park grid, still with the old house in the background, 1996
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Andrew Smith with father Dick's Nurburg 'Nash
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John Ure (AJM1) on front row with Duncan Ricketts (R1B) behind

#1159 Giraffe

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 20:39

If I ever had to view only one contributor's photographs to TNF, they would be your's Alan. Composition, elegance, sheer class every time. :up:

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#1160 Alan Cox

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:16

Too kind, Tony, Do I owe you some money that I have forgotten about? :blush:
I have been very fortunate to have been able to gain an insider's view before third-party insurance worries and elf 'n' safety became the overriding factors for circuit owners.

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First lap of Supersports into La Source. Peter Hannen just has the edge over Charlie Agg, both in McLaren M8Fs
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Charlie Agg rounds La Source
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The very talented Peter Hannen on his way to victory.
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Down amongst the tiddlers, Tony Birchenough's Dorset Racing Lola. I think it's a T290 but stand to be corrected.

Three from the Donington Superprix 1996, when BRM was the featured marque.
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Louis Stanley and wife Jean. Even then Jean's penchant for 'big' hair was still evident but Louis' complexion gave cause for concern.

#1161 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 20:26

If I ever had to view only one contributor's photographs to TNF, they would be your's Alan. Composition, elegance, sheer class every time. :up:


I don't owe Alan any money, but I have to agree - I always check out your posts. As everyone knows I'm a driver/personality man, but as much as I think the car shots are fantastic, I love seeing the photos of people on here. Whether it's added security or hysteria around some festivals these days, but you can't quite get the same quality of photograph these days. Wonderful stuff. :up:

The best thing is the photos are never ending, it's always worth clicking the thread to see what will turn up next.


#1162 elansprint72

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 21:59

I don't owe Alan any money, but I have to agree - I always check out your posts. As everyone knows I'm a driver/personality man, but as much as I think the car shots are fantastic, I love seeing the photos of people on here. Whether it's added security or hysteria around some festivals these days, but you can't quite get the same quality of photograph these days. Wonderful stuff. :up:

The best thing is the photos are never ending, it's always worth clicking the thread to see what will turn up next.


Alan's shots are always good value and I agree with his comment on those of us of a certain age being fortunate to get to viewpoints which are now forbidden.

imho one of the reasons why we don't see many good quality driver/personality shots these days is because of the equipment the legions of "pro" snappers :rolleyes: are using; there is nothing more off-putting than having some paparazzo pointing a foot-long grey lens in your face, flash firing like an Uzi.
I was one of only three photogs granted access to the Drivers' Club at the last Le Mans Classic, I dumped the heavy gear behind the reception desk and used a digital Leica and a D700 with a tiny lens, no flash, the other two (French Paps) went around with big-bangers annoying folks who were tired/anxious/just trying to relax between races. I've been invited back, not sure that they have.

In this out-take (Le Mans Class?? shoddy composition!) we are at the prize presentation; Patrick Peter and Richard Mille (a great double-act) showing their passion for the sport.

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My brief for this year is "behind the scenes" hopefully I'll have something to show here.

#1163 Andrew Fellowes

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:43

I guess this must have been mid '80s. In blue is well known Australian motor racing photographer Paul Cross, I think we spent most of the day in the Bamford Motorhome, how I got home afterwards I have absolutely no idea.

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at this point Paul and I made a discreet exit before we got into trouble for drinking the white wine!
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#1164 Ted Walker

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:19

I see "Mo"Scales and Bruce Halford.

#1165 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:10

imho one of the reasons why we don't see many good quality driver/personality shots these days is because of the equipment the legions of "pro" snappers :rolleyes: are using; there is nothing more off-putting than having some paparazzo pointing a foot-long grey lens in your face, flash firing like an Uzi.


I don't pretend to be an expert on the field of photography Pete .........but I do agree it always seems to be cheating to stand there and take multiple images of the one car just so you manage to take one in focus !!


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#1166 Stephen W

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:41

I don't pretend to be an expert on the field of photography Pete .........but I do agree it always seems to be cheating to stand there and take multiple images of the one car just so you manage to take one in focus !!

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Before the advent of digital photography if like me you were paying for the film and processing yourself it was a great constraining factor. I remember hearing about a professional photographer who submitted over 30 rolls of film for one race for me 30 rolls of film would have lasted 10 meetings!

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#1167 Simon Arron

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 18:53

30 rolls of film would have lasted 10 meetings!

Luxury. I used to have to get up at 5.00 in the morning, cycle to Hale station, catch the 6.16 to Cuddington, ride several miles to Oulton Park and then make 36 frames of Kodak Tri-X last all day. You try telling the amateur photographers of today that etc etc etc.

Meanwhile, here is one of about 1500 shots I took at the Goodwood Revival in 2010...
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#1168 Frank S

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 00:51

Luxury. I used to have to get up at 5.00 in the morning, cycle to Hale station, catch the 6.16 to Cuddington, ride several miles to Oulton Park and then make 36 frames of Kodak Tri-X last all day. You try telling the amateur photographers of today that etc etc etc.

Meanwhile, here is one of about 1500 shots I took at the Goodwood Revival in 2010...
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To me, that is one to "Ooh" and "Ahh" over.

#1169 David McKinney

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:38

I agree

I can't see anything to tell me it wasn't taken i 1960 or 1961

#1170 Stephen W

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:19

I can't see anything to tell me it wasn't taken i 1960 or 1961


Apart from the roll-over hoops & crash helmets, copious amounts of gravel and the tyre wall?

#1171 Barry Boor

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:17

Yeah, but apart from that..... what else has Lord March done for us?

#1172 David McKinney

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:33

Apart from the roll-over hoops & crash helmets, copious amounts of gravel and the tyre wall?

Those small roll-hoops were in evidence in 1960/61, and I can't see anything to tell me the crash-helmets aren't period, either

The circuit backdrop is a bit of a spoiler, though

#1173 brucemoxon

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:07

I guess this must have been mid '80s. In blue is well known Australian motor racing photographer Paul Cross, I think we spent most of the day in the Bamford Motorhome, how I got home afterwards I have absolutely no idea.



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It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Paul just picked you up and carried you home. A large, large man. Rugby player, don't you know? His son (Ryan) is too. And his other son, Clay, was a top shot-putter. Also large.

I too was of the 'up at stupid 0'clock, cycle train and cycle' to Oran Park from Dundas. (About 40km by road). And I'd only have a roll or two of film, which I'd process myself. And pay mill owner for permission to come to work.

And at the end of the meeting, on the bike and pedal like mad to get back to Campbelltown and the train before it got dark. 'Cause our meetings were in Winter and the sun was going down.

I love digital photography. Most of my pictures are in focus, but the opportunity to get a really good shot is better for me.

A selection from Phillip Island...

Yes, that's his rear window breaking.

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Seriously. Phwoar.

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Evidence that some people will race anything.

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And a mixed bunch - variety is, after all, the spice of life.

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Finally - Australia's sporting colours backed by the same. And a favourite car of mine.

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Oh, and digital photos are much easier to upload.



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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:06

All great shots, the last one is bloody fantastic! :up:

#1175 Phil Rainford

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:07

While half of TNF seem to be sunning themselves in Monaco .... some shots from the AMOC at Oulton yesterday

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The DB4 of Alan Hudd enjoys the early morning sun at Lodge

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Star of the day was Nicholas King in his DB4 who was more than capable of mixing it with the modern Astons

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The DB4GT of Darren McWhirter was on the pace

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Enough said....

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Well held that man...Clive Morley was holding nothing back in his Bentley


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Edited by Phil Rainford, 13 May 2012 - 21:10.


#1176 Tim Murray

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 18:55

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Well held that man...Tony Armstrong was holding nothing back in his Aston Martin Mk11 Ulster

Issa Bentley, innit?

Great photos, Phil.

#1177 Phil Rainford

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 21:11

Issa Bentley, innit?

Great photos, Phil.


Oops ....modified the post Tim :blush:


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#1178 elansprint72

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 23:18

I'm reasonably sure that Tony was (despite the lack of photographic evidence) holding nothing back in his Ulster. Which one was it, the one with a super-charger?

#1179 Phil Rainford

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:10

Is this the car in question Pete?

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#1180 elansprint72

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:42

Is this the car in question Pete?




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Not the one I was thinking of; I know that Tony has two of these devices but I'm just beginning to wonder if the one with a big supercharger on the front actually belongs to him.

Lovely shot, Phil.

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#1181 Phil Rainford

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 17:26

Thanks Peter....

Thought this Bentley3/4.5 of Clive Morley was immaculate

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 19:47

I have managed to rescue some photos i thought i had lost, but have no idea who or what some are .


A Martini F3

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#1183 elansprint72

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 21:20

Not the one I was thinking of; I know that Tony has two of these devices but I'm just beginning to wonder if the one with a big supercharger on the front actually belongs to him.

Lovely shot, Phil.


Amazing the things one learns from one's from ones water-meter reader... apparently there are even more Astons in the Armstrong garages and some other really interesting cars are tucked away in Rainow.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 23:12

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Thanks to responses to previous posts I've narrowed this photo down to most likely FIA GT meeting at Brands in June 1989, however even after looking at dozens of 250 GT SWB records on the Barchetta site I am no closer to identifying either the driver or chassis number, all I do no is that the race was won by Lindsay Owen-Jones driving a similar #2 car chassis #2021.

Can any one identify either the driver or car in my photo ?

Relevant answers maybe credited and used in a forthcoming blog.

Thanking you in anticipation of your responses.

Edited by arttidesco, 20 May 2012 - 23:13.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:03

Fabrizio Violati by any chance? Looks like Scuderia Campodoglio on the front wing.

#1186 Tim Murray

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:01

If it is the Brands Superprix meeting in June 1989 it has to be Violati as (according to Autosport) only he and Owen-Jones drove Ferrari 250SWBs in the FIA European Cup race, finishing 1-2 after a battle with a couple of Elites. There's a photo in Autosport showing the Owen-Jones car with another red 250 just visible behind it, which must be Violati, although the band at the top of the windscreen is more yellow in the Autosport pic.

#1187 arttidesco

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:00

If it is the Brands Superprix meeting in June 1989 it has to be Violati as (according to Autosport) only he and Owen-Jones drove Ferrari 250SWBs in the FIA European Cup race, finishing 1-2 after a battle with a couple of Elites. There's a photo in Autosport showing the Owen-Jones car with another red 250 just visible behind it, which must be Violati, although the band at the top of the windscreen is more yellow in the Autosport pic.


Thanks Tim, the photo I took may well have been during practice, I had not noticed it before but the band looks taped over, it's certainly not photo shopped :up:

#1188 arttidesco

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:36

Thanks to Peter and Tim for their help with today's post :up:

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:20

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Rick Hall De Tomaso 505 Masters Festival Brands Hatch 2012.Pictured today during the historic race of champions.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:26

Super! I love to see this car despite the sad memories it evokes.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 15:19

I was at the Masters Historic Festival at Brands yesterday, I would have gone again today but aching legs from walking round the grand prix circuit a couple of times and sunburn put paid to that.

A glorious entry on a gloriously sunny day at this great circuit made for an excellent race meeting, here are a few of my photographs featuring three great British makes of racing cars.

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Barry Baxter at Stirlings in his BRM P48

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Baxter's BRM P153 and P48

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BRM P180 leads the De Tomaso 505 into Druids

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Brian Maile's Cooper T41

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Will Nuthall exits Stirlings hard on the power in the Cooper T53

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Sid Hoole's Cooper T66 and the Lola Mk4 of Mark Piercy at Stirlings

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Bob Dance polishing the Lotus 25

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Allan Rennie's Lotus 35 Martin at Druids

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Roger Will's Lotus 16 blowing steam in practice

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#1192 Alan Cox

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 18:58

Great photos, as ever, David and Autodelta. Looks like perfect Brands weather. Whose T53 was Will Nuthall driving?

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 19:23

Fine work; I feel so rich to be able to see and enjoy it. Thank y'all.

#1194 David Lawson

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 19:36

Whose T53 was Will Nuthall driving?


According to the programme it is Giorgio Marchi's

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 20:19

Thank you photographers!

Isn't that BRM P153 just about the most purposeful-looking GP car ever built? Gorgeous! The Lotus 25 is lovely, but just doesn't look mean enough.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 22:02

A few more from Saturday at Brands Masters Festival ...

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 22:14

Thanks for posting chaps; best set of photos we have had on here for a while. :up:

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 23:32

My final few photographs from Saturday at Brands.

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If I did funny captions I would probably say, "A nice pair of bristols".

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Cooper Bristol preparation

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Rod Jolley two wheeling at Dingle Dell

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Sid Hoole's Ensign MN01

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Roger Wills Lancia LC2 Group C

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Ratio change for the Lola Mk4

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Driver change for the Elan during practice

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Sadly this Lotus 40 suffered a suspension failure in practice

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Andrew Beaumont in the Lotus 76

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March 701 in John Love livery - I didn't hear who the owner/driver is.

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Josef-Otto Rettenmaier's Maserati 6C34

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John Delane in 002 entering Druids

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Roger Wills Tyrrell P34

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:57

That looks like the same March that Roger Wills tripped over at Monaco. The driver was a Turkish gentleman in Monaco and the helmet is certainly the same.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:41

Thanks ofr posting the Brands images. I took nothing myself on Saturday and, like you, my legs were too achy to return on Sunday. That Lancia was the business :up: