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#1 Formulaonefan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:07

Predictions for Melbourne Race and Quali, here please. Sorry for doing it so early.

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#2 Perigee

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:10

Quali

1 - Kimi
2 - Lewis
3 - Massa
4 - Heikki

Race

1 - Kimi
2 - Massa
3 - Heikki
4 - Lewis

Hardly going out on a limb here, I accept...well, apart from Heikki beating Lewis in the race.

Not long to go now! :clap:

#3 Jodum5

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:16

Qualifying:
1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Rosberg
5. Webber
6. Kovaleinen

Race:

1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg

#4 Formulaonefan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:19

mine

quali:
1. Hamilton.
2. Raikkonen
3. Heikki
4: Massa
Race
1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Heikki

I don't really know how well Heikki has adapted

#5 sensible

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:31

I bet at least one mclaren or ferrari wont be in the top 3 in both qualie and race

#6 Mauseri

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:45

Isnt it a bit early...

#7 volumenzero

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:48

Quali

1 Massa
2 Hamilton
3 Rosberg
4 Nakajima
5 Raikonnen
6 Kovalainen


Race

1 Massa
2 Raikonnen
3 Nakajima
4 Rosberg
5 Kovalainen
6 Alonso

#8 Hacklerf

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:51

Its a bit early but...

Q
1 - Kimi
2 - Massa
3 - Lewis
4 - Heikki

R
1 - Kimi
2 - Massa
3 - Heikki
4 - Lewis

#9 kar

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:53

Qualifying:

1. Hamilton (with less fuel than the Ferraris)
2. Raikkonen
3. Massa
...
7. Alonso

Race

1. Raikkonen
2. Massa
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso (Dunno how but he will).

#10 jokuvaan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:54

You will find those from here:
http://forums.autosp...p?s=&forumid=14

#11 FlashMaster

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:55

Qlf

1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Rosberg
4. Kovalainen
5. Massa
6. Trulli

Race

1. Raikkonen
2. Kovalainen
3. Rosberg
4. Massa
5. Trulli
6. Glock

#12 Hames Junt

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 14:56

Qualifiying:

1. Hamilton
2. Raikkonen
3. Massa
4. Kovalainen
5. Heidfeld
6. Webber
7. Rosberg
8. Kubica
9. Alonso
10. Trulli

The Race:

I'm not sure about the race but I have a strong gut feeling that it may be a race of attrition (Eg. AGP 99, 01, 02, 06) and that we may see a non-Ferrari/McLaren on the podium, and maybe a Toro Rosso or Force India in the points, maybe even a Honda if they're lucky!

#13 sopa

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 15:20

Q3:
1 Raikkonen, 2 Hamilton, 3 Massa, 4 Kovalainen, 5 Rosberg, 6 Trulli, 7 Webber, 8 Heidfeld, 9 Nakajima, 10 Kubica
Q2:
11 Vettel, 12 Alonso, 13 Glock, 14 Coulthard, 15 Sutil, 16 Fisichella
Q1:
17 Bourdais, 18 Davidson, 19 Button, 20 Sato, 21 Barrichello, 22 Piquet (hits the wall and gets no time)

In the race on lap 13 safety car comes out after Bourdais rear wing has failed, which send him into the wall. Some drivers opt to pit (Ferraris, Lewis, Williamses, Jarno, Mark, Nick, Force Indias etc), others don't (Heikki, Robert, Renaults, Seb, Timo etc). Those, who don't, made a really wrong decision as the safety car comes out again in a few laps as Nakajima hits Massa and both are out. Pieces are everywhere on the track.

After some mess about at half distance the order looks like: 1 KR, 2 LH, 3 MW, 4 NR, 5 NH, 6 JT, 7 GF, 8 HK (quick rise). All those rumours that finally Red Bull is reliable, go down the toilet, when on lap 32 Webber's transmission fails and that marks another retirement for him from promising position. To conclude that, Coulthard's electronics fail. Heidfeld's gearbox fails. In the end we have a nice fight with Rosberg in front and Trulli being a sandwich between him and Kovalainen. Despite all the efforts from McLaren driver, nothing changes.

The end:
1 Raikkonen, 2 Hamilton, 3 Rosberg (first podium in his career), 4 Trulli, 5 Kovalainen, 6 Alonso, 7 Kubica, 8 Fisichella.

#14 Frank Booth

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 15:24

WCC
1. Ferrari
2. BMW
3. MacLaren
4. Williams
5. Renault
6. Red Bull
7. Toyota
8. Toro Roso
9. Honda
10. Force India
11. Super Aguri

#15 RF1 fan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 15:38

I think we are going to see a lot of "forward biased" strategy this season there is a new qualifying system for Renault,Red Bull,Williams,Toyota and BMW....

Quali:

1Webber
2Raikkonen
3Hamilton
4Nakajima
5 Massa
6 Piquet
7Rosberg
8 Alonso
9 Heidfeld
10 Kova

Race

1 Raikkonen
2 Kova
3 Rosberg
4 Alonso
5 Heidfeld
6 Webber
7 Coulthard
8 Piquet.

#16 Jimages

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 15:59

I confidently predict that pole position will go to the driver with the fastest laptime in Q3, and the winner of the race will be the driver who finishes first.

Oh I see your point! You want me to put my neck on the line. Well if the Ferrari realizes it's expected potential, Kimi for both pole and victory, with reliability and conditions permitting Massa, Hamilton and Kovalainen behind in no particular order.

As for the rest? Well it looks like the midfield pecking order is going to look a bit like a one armed bandit machine.

#17 lukywill

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 16:37

qualifying:

1.raikkonen
2.massa
3.hamilton
4.alonso
5.nakajima
6.webber
7.kubica
8.heidfeld
9.rosberg
10. trulli
11.kovalainen
12.piquet
13.vettel
14.glock
15.sutil
16.fisichella
17.coulthard
18.bourdais
19.barrichello
20.button
21.sato
22.davidson


race: who cares? we can sleep well on sunday, everything happens in the grid these days: who phones who when, who´s shiting, who and when takes a relax, who stands in front of who´s car. etc. basically the numbers at qualifying are the result of a hard winter work.

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 17:30

Qual:

1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Nakajima
5. Kovalainen

Race:

1. Raikkonen
2. Massa
3. Hamilton
4. Kovalainen
5. Heidfeld

#19 F1_conman

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 17:50

Qual:

1. Hamilton

Race

1. Hamilton

2nd- place driver is the first loser so who cares about the rest?

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 19:11

Räikkönen on pole, by three tenths roughly, if those just behind him are on the same fuel load (+/- two laps). Hamilton joins him on the front row.
Row two is shared by Massa and Kovalainen.
Row three, Kubica and Rosberg. The rest of the top ten is made up of Heidfeld, Trulli, Alonso, Webber and DC, but not necessarily in that order.

One BMW and one McLaren drops out, Massa spins and loses several places. Kubica and Rosberg are nose to tail all race. Points from race one to Ferrari, McLaren, BMW, Williams, Red Bull, and Renault. Toyota just misses out.
Six cars on the same lap.
Räikkonen wins.

#21 rodlamas

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 19:30

Qual: The predictions of Mclaren and Ferrari qualifying on the first two rows will be gone soon after we realize Webber has got a 10-lap fuel load and other top 10 cars go into low fuel 1st stint strategies as the likelyhood of a SC in Melbourne is pretty big. Grid is totally mixed and a lot of protests will emerge from drivers who say their laps were spoiled by others going very slow to the pits in fuel conservation mode.

Saturday night: A whole army of team principals and drivers are asked to go to the race control to give explanations about what happened in Q3. The grid will get even more mixed up with drivers losing 5 or 10 grid positions, lots of complains will come up here and probably the Atlas server will shut down.

Race: Who cares? The interesting part of the weekend will already have happened.

#22 Formulaonefan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 19:41

Rodlamas, I think you are right along with others, the races are decided in quali. I also feel there will be more three stoppers, you might laugh, but that is what I think, this will prevent Webber getting p2 or something really high for instance. Massa's first stint when he done a race simulation on Friday with 13 lap first stint.

#23 rodlamas

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 19:44

Originally posted by Formulaonefan
Rodlamas, I think you are right along with others, the races are decided in quali. I also feel there will be more three stoppers, you might laugh, but that is what I think, this will prevent Webber getting p2 or something really high for instance. Massa's first stint when he done a race simulation on Friday with 13 lap first stint.


Ok, I agree the top teams will have more forward-biased fuel strategies, but I don't think this will prevent Webber or Trulli being once in a while in the top 3.

What about Webber's P2 in Sepang 2004?

#24 COUGAR508

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 20:07

Qualifying:-

1. Kimi
2. Lewis
3. Massa
4. Heikki
5. Alonso
6. Webber


Race:-

1. Kimi
2. Massa
3. Lewis
4. Heikki
5. Heidfeld
6. Coulthard

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 20:10

Originally posted by rodlamas


Ok, I agree the top teams will have more forward-biased fuel strategies, but I don't think this will prevent Webber or Trulli being once in a while in the top 3.

What about Webber's P2 in Sepang 2004?


Wasn't he late on the road in qualifying there? It was a different format and on some tracks the running order was very important as the track evolved and could sometimes improve by around half a second from the first to the last car. In addition that Jag (R5?) was very good in qualifying.

I still expect two stops to be the norm, but far more often than last year, the teams will play with the thought of doing three stops, so clearly they'll be more frequent.
The two stoppers will be forward biased by a few laps from what's normal.

Btw, I don't expect to see someone stop after just ten(!) laps.

#26 512 TR

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 20:37

The only thing I predict is a glory pole from either BMW, Renault or Williams.

Kimi, Felipe or Lewis will win the race and all of them will be on the podium.

#27 MichaelPM

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 20:48

Im gonna guess a Ferrari or McLaren will spin off in quali. Massa being favourite.

Thats all im willing to be so sure of that I would post on a prediction thread.

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 21:09

Button
Barrichello
Coulthard

*§@!!!!!! Sorry! Was i asleep...................

#29 jonpollak

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 22:22

I found ITV'S picks on their website

Qual
1 LEWIS
2 LEWIS
3 LEWIS

Race
1 LEWIS
2 LEWIS
3 LEWIS


Actually my predictions for Melboure are as follows....

1) Sith will be drinking BOOZE at the CDT over the weekend when they run out of Coke.
2) Bumper will somehow get a paddock pass.
3) My pal Amy will be accosted on the KangarooTV stand by drunk Aussie's
4) I will fall asleep in my easy-chair at around half race distance and miss something earth shattering.

Jp

#30 KLN

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 23:34

Typical ITV picks from Poms i suppose JP.

The first session starts as a TWG Meeting on Wednesday evening........exit Gate 10...
Bumper managed a paddock pass last visit so i'm sure she'll manage again (remind self to ring her on Gold Coast on holidays this week)
We'll accost Amy at Kanga TV STand, as we have to pick our's up on the Friday....
We'll ring you halfway thru the race to wake you up.
we've managed to score a gig decorating a marquee trackside, so very happy business owner can now legally justify tax deductions...............
bring it on!!!!

Kathe

#31 ashnathan

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 23:51

I actually think races will be better this year, no traction control means more mistakes, and, is it just me, or does somebody else have a big feeling there is going to be a bit of a shunt into turn 1 without the good old tc to save them? 1 ferrari or one mclaren will be damaged into T1.

Raikkonen for victory, Lewis for pole, BMW's will surprise and probably will go for that glory pole.

#32 512 TR

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 23:53

Originally posted by kids like ash
I actually think races will be better this year, no traction control means more mistakes, and, is it just me, or does somebody else have a big feeling there is going to be a bit of a shunt into turn 1 without the good old tc to save them? 1 ferrari or one mclaren will be damaged into T1.

Raikkonen for victory, Lewis for pole, BMW's will surprise and probably will go for that glory pole.


More mistakes? No doubt about it! That's why Michael would do great this year if he was given a chance. :)

#33 ashnathan

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 00:00

Not to mention, in previous years, you had to be alot faster comign out of the last corner to have a go at someone, without traction control, and lot of sliding on wearing tires, this will make getting into the slip stream alot easier, someones is leading into the last lap with someone close behind, going into the last turn he gets a bit of a squirm on, P2 overtakes and leads into the last lap both on worn tires with ducks and dives all over the place.

#34 HoldenRT

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 02:11

I think Lewis will get pole but would like to be wrong.

This seems pretty accurate too

I found ITV'S picks on their website

Qual
1 LEWIS
2 LEWIS
3 LEWIS

Race
1 LEWIS
2 LEWIS
3 LEWIS


Umm first race of the season is always the hardest anyone got a hat and some pieces of paper?

Qual

Lewis
Kimi
Massa
Heiki
from here its a lottery but
Heidfeld
Alonso
Kubica
Rosberg
Webber
Trulli

Race

Kimi
Lewis
Heidfeld
Alonso
Rosberg
Trulli
Webber
Coulthard
Piquet
Vettel

Hopefuly its a Safety Car laden crashfest like 06 and not a boring snoozefest like 07.

#35 pablo_a

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 02:55

Qual:

1. Kimi
2. Massa
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Kova

Race:

1. Kimi
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Alonso
5. Rosberg
6. Webber

#36 CrushedDreams

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 15:00

Not really in the format you want, but I had a dream last night.

The McLaren's were in the early lead and they took each other out. It looked like the Ferrari's were in the clear for an easy 1-2, but there was a chain reaction from the Mac accident, and it cause the two Ferrari's to make contact. At this point the Toyota's flew into the lead being chased by BMW (I think). They stared banging like bumper cars... At this point I convince Senna to jump into the Red Bull to fight for a possible win... I woke up.

It was a damn exciting race!

#37 denthierry

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 15:28

Q :
1. Hamilton
2. Massa
3. Raikkonen
4. Kovalainen
5. Rosberg
6. Webber

R :
1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Kovalainen
5. Truli
6. Webber

So yes, bit of a disappointing weekend for Kimi given his status of WDC favourite...

#38 KLN

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 15:33

dream on

#39 denthierry

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 15:56

Originally posted by KLN
dream on


Why? I'm a die hard Kimi fan bro, but i just have this gut feeling the Macs are still a tad faster over one lap, while the Reds will be faster over Race distance, but not thàt much.

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#40 lukywill

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 16:19

Originally posted by CrushedDreams
but I had a dream last night.



It was a damn exciting race!


maybe you have alzaimer. dreams with races are only a taste of nostalgia.

#41 Formulaonefan

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 18:43

It been a long time in Melbourne, since qualifying has gone right for them. 2004 the last time.