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#1 AirCT

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 16:30

Why does F1 not use the number 13, is it because of superstition or is there any other reason for it?

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#2 Imperial

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 16:34

I sincerely hope the FIA does not make any decisions based on superstition.

However, an easily done google search (cough cough :lol: ) revealed:

http://www.f1fanatic...-the-number-13/

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Formula_One

well.....revealed that there seems to be no official reason for it.

#3 ensign14

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 20:56

Cos people are tossers.

#4 fiaza

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 21:08

Being born on friday 13th never done me any harm.

#5 Josta

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 21:37

Originally posted by fiaza
Being born on friday 13th never done me any harm.


Did. The word "Done" should only be used after have, has or had.

#6 fiaza

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 21:42

Originally posted by Josta


Did. The word "Done" should only be used after have, has or had.


Please excuse my Essex tongue. :)

#7 Josta

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 21:48

Originally posted by fiaza


Please excuse my Essex tongue. :)


As a fellow Essex boy, I just had to repeat the mantra of my primary school headmistress, Sister Veronica. Repeated transgression resulted in the cane. :)

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 22:48

for me it's the other way around. i was born on friday the 13th and i just take it as a lucky charm, though probably doesn't make any difference.
in f1 i guess it does have to do with superstition. maybe before it made more sense, when people died in crashes.

#9 Scorg

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 22:54

It's interesting that the number is skipped but when it comes to race car numbers, the MP4/13 was a championship winner and if you look at the EJ13, it won a Race!

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 23:33

I can understand not wanting a car number 13, you never find the number 13 used on boats or ships either. So I guess superstition is widespread!!

#11 A Day In The Life

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 23:36

'cause Jason Voorhees will get ya.

#12 archstanton

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 23:46

naaah, stupidity is widespread, that's why superstition is widespread.

it is an embarrassing joke that a sport and business built on science and technology, somehow sanctions the notion that a drive shaft is more or less likely to break depending on the shape of a sticker on the car.

maybe red bull should sacrifice a goat behind the pits, see if that fixes the gearbox for this year.

#13 ehagar

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 00:12

I find their numbering system illogical to begin with. I believe teams/drivers should be able to keep their number rather than have it based on the constructors championship finishing order... how dull is that. Also, if 13 is not an unlucky number in other cultures, why not let someone run it?

#14 275 GTB-4

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 00:32

Bob Holden and another overseas fella ( :) ) won Bathurst in 1966 in a Mini emblazoned with 13.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 00:36

October 13th 1307, a friday, the Templary order was destroyed. The ones who did the cruzades. That's acepted as the root for all this nonsense.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 01:00

Originally posted by saudoso
October 13th 1307, a friday, the Templary order was destroyed. The ones who did the cruzades. That's acepted as the root for all this nonsense.


and let us not forget Judas




Iconoclastic American car builder Smokey Yunick liked to campaign the #13

#17 Imperial

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 08:59

Originally posted by saudoso
October 13th 1307, a friday, the Templary order was destroyed. The ones who did the cruzades. That's acepted as the root for all this nonsense.


Erm...or perhaps the 'last supper', which took place approximately 1,300 years before then, is to blame!

"Didn't you go to Sunday school?" (to borrow a line from Indiana Jones)

#18 Josta

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 09:15

Originally posted by Imperial


Erm...or perhaps the 'last supper', which took place approximately 1,300 years before then, is to blame!

"Didn't you go to Sunday school?" (to borrow a line from Indiana Jones)


The theory only first came about in the late 19th century. Whereupon paraskavedekatriaphobia was born.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 09:23

You won't find too many floor 13s in hotels either.

Superstition is silly, of course, but over half of the world's population believe in 'god', which is also a superstitious belief. And whilst I don't personally subscribe to that superstition, I always put my right shoe on first because of some equally irrational susperstitious feeling.

I dunno, it's kind of funny that F1 should follow a superstitious element, (albeit not an official one as far as I read), but I'm just grateful the church - whilst it absurdly manages (in the UK) to have some of its people in the House of Lords (yes, let's have some law makers who not only subscribe to, but also preach from a book that, says the Earth is only a few thousand years old and that people should be stoned to death for working on Sundays!), thank goodness they do not seem to have managed to get themselves into the corridors of power of F1.

Humanity has blighted itself by irrational belief or "faith", and in the great scheme of things not having a car no. 13 is one of the less damaging facets of of this irrationality.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 14:02

Originally posted by Apogee
(yes, let's have some law makers who not only subscribe to, but also preach from a book that, says the Earth is only a few thousand years old and that people should be stoned to death for working on Sundays!)

Think you'd struggle to find any such people in the Lords today. Indeed taking the bible as literally true is a fairly recent development.

But if 13 is banned for unlucky, how come 4 and 17 are used? They're just as unlucky in other parts of the world.

It's crazy. It's a NUMBER.

#21 AyePirate

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 14:08

Originally posted by ensign14


But if 13 is banned for unlucky, how come 4 and 17 are used? They're just as unlucky in other parts of the world.

It's crazy. It's a NUMBER.


yes indeed

Triskaidekaphobia

#22 F575 GTC

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 14:10

Reiter Engineering ran a Murcielago R-GT with the #13 on it for several years in the FIA GT's; and frankly it was crap. Then again, that was more to do with the car being awful than the number ;) Since last year they've been running #7 & #8.

#23 Frans

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 15:00

some people claim the world is run by numbers....

but in the end, #13 is plain simple mind control.

seems to work most of the time, with most of the people.

mind control. (Also remember Apollo 13 huh......)

Lucky Number Thirteen.... I know cultures where it's a lucky number. :drunk:

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 17:11

Originally posted by fiaza
Being born on friday 13th never done me any harm.


or me !!!
Jp

#25 k1ngy

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 09:22

I recently went to work in Hungary for 7 weeks and on my flight out my brother sent me a text and he mentioned that not to worry 'Hostel' was a figment of an over active writers imagination. When i arrived at my hotel the receptionist passed my hotel key for Room No.13 and said 'Hope your not superstitious' I wasnt until she said that!
Work did screw up my expenses and Laundry lost one of my fave tops sure it was just coincidence :rolleyes: