Is that Ian Stronach in the Kincraft? [/B]
I believe it is; iirc it was a sort-of Pre F5000 car with a Ford 4.7 engine (but I'm usually wrong ).
I posted a photo of it at Aintree on another thread.
Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:49
Is that Ian Stronach in the Kincraft? [/B]
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:59
Think your basically right.Was built for the 1962 Intercontinental Formula which never happened so was restricted to club libre races-driven by Robin Darlington.Don't remember it racing at Lydden where it must have been a bit of a handfulOriginally posted by elansprint72
I believe it is; iirc it was a sort-of Pre F5000 car with a Ford 4.7 engine (but I'm usually wrong ).
Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:33
Originally posted by Tim Murray
Earlier Kincraft thread:
Kincraft Formula Libre/F5000
Posted 02 February 2009 - 14:14
Originally posted by elansprint72
Chris Meek and unknown (by me, as usual) Capri.
Posted 02 February 2009 - 14:50
Agree with Dan, it was Mallory, remember being very wet that day too. IIRC Derek Lawrence won it, a mustard yellow coloured Dulon or was it a Crossle? Not many called it FF2000 at the time, it was known as Super Ford.Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
Wasn't the first ever 'proper' FF2000 race held at Oulton?
Posted 02 February 2009 - 15:29
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Agree with Dan, it was Mallory, remember being very wet that day too. IIRC Derek Lawrence won it, a mustard yellow coloured Dulon or was it a Crossle? Not many called it FF2000 at the time, it was known as Super Ford.
Posted 02 February 2009 - 15:51
The first points-scoring Super Ford race was at Mallory, but there was a trial event at Oulton in September 1974: it was run as a separate class within an F3 race and I have a feeling only four cars turned up.Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Agree with Dan, it was Mallory, remember being very wet that day too. IIRC Derek Lawrence won it, a mustard yellow coloured Dulon or was it a Crossle? Not many called it FF2000 at the time, it was known as Super Ford.
Posted 02 February 2009 - 16:27
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That's the one I was half remembering Simon. Thanks for giving me a little belief back in my memory.Originally posted by Simon Arron
The first points-scoring Super Ford race was at Mallory, but there was a trial event at Oulton in September 1974: it was run as a separate class within an F3 race and I have a feeling only four cars turned up.
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 17:54
Originally posted by Stephen W
Syd Fox - Hawke DL14;
Derek Lawrence - Crossle 31F
MRE
Posted 02 February 2009 - 17:54
Veering back vaguely towards the original topic, four cars would be considered plenty for a proper race at Longridge...Originally posted by Mallory Dan
My point entirely re the first 'proper' FF2000 race. I can't see how Diz reckons the first one was the Oulton trial race, that was the point of it, it was a trial before the genuine article. I think he's grumpy over the Keane fiasco in Scouseland, and when the Yanks are off...
Posted 02 February 2009 - 17:55
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Veering back vaguely towards the original topic, four cars would be considered plenty for a proper race at Longridge...
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 20:15
Nope Alan, The Crossle30F was the 1975 FF1600, so the 31F FF2000 would be a 1975 model. They lasted two seasons until the 32F / 33F appeared in 1977Originally posted by alansart
Syd Fox - Hawke DL14; Did that eventually become TON (The Old Nail) and was still winning several years later.
Derek Lawrence - Crossle 31F - Isn't that a bit early for a 31F?
MRE - Which became Tiga?
Posted 02 February 2009 - 20:23
Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
Nope Alan, The Crossle30F was the 1975 FF1600, so the 31F FF2000 would be a 1975 model. They lasted two seasons until the 32F / 33F appeared in 1977
Posted 02 February 2009 - 20:30
Originally posted by Stephen W
whilst on the 28th the championship arrived at Oulton Park.
That's not this one then, 10th August 1974?Simon Arron
The first points-scoring Super Ford race was at Mallory, but there was a trial event at Oulton in September 1974: it was run as a separate class within an F3 race and I have a feeling only four cars turned up
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 22:15
Probably too much Fosters led to the confusion!Originally posted by Simon Arron
He means Fosters...
Posted 02 February 2009 - 22:24
Originally posted by Simon Arron
They returned on September 28.
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Posted 03 February 2009 - 11:10
Originally posted by Simon Arron
I speak reasonably fluent Rainford.
He means Fosters...
Posted 03 February 2009 - 12:53
Originally posted by elansprint72
Obvious really: it is a Lotus 23B, no wonder it was so nippy.
Posted 03 February 2009 - 15:28
Originally posted by alansart
Syd Fox - Hawke DL14; Did that eventually become TON (The Old Nail) and was still winning several years later.
Derek Lawrence - Crossle 31F - Isn't that a bit early for a 31F?
MRE - Which became Tiga?
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Posted 03 February 2009 - 16:42
Originally posted by Simon Arron
A guided tour of the full lap would be mildly impractical, unless somebody fancies bulldozing a dozen caravans...
Posted 03 February 2009 - 17:57
Originally posted by alansart
Get Clarkson to come. Top Gear do it all the time
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Posted 04 February 2009 - 07:32
Such idiosyncratic cocktails were not Longridge's exclusive preserve...Originally posted by elansprint72
By special request, another shot of the Lotus 23B (!), this time in mixed company.
Posted 04 February 2009 - 08:28
I remember it at Lydden in '69, again with Jim Moore driving. Dark red, maroon at the time. It had several different paint jobs as it was pranged and consequently rebuilt so often.Originally posted by Rob29
Think your basically right.Was built for the 1962 Intercontinental Formula which never happened so was restricted to club libre races-driven by Robin Darlington.Don't remember it racing at Lydden where it must have been a bit of a handful
Posted 04 February 2009 - 11:22
I was always full of bright ideasOriginally posted by Simon Arron
Such idiosyncratic cocktails were not Longridge's exclusive preserve...
One Aintree meeting attracted precious few Modsports entries, so somebody had the bright idea of combining them with another class that was short on numbers... I suspect most of the Pre '57 Saloons were lapped at least twice.
Posted 04 February 2009 - 11:31
Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
I was always full of bright ideas
I did a much better one though.
One Special Saloon grid was full to overflowing, so I extracted the upto 1000cc class and put them in with a relatively poorly supported Vintage entry.
Big Bentley things and plastic' Minis'. I spent the time from deciding to do this until the chequered flag finally fell absolutely bricking it.
I had visions of a special saloon squashed against the barrier by many tons of Bentley. I'm sure a better job would have been done than any car crusher could have managed.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:04
Originally posted by elansprint72
This shot shows the sprint start-line in the "pit-lane"
Longton & District MC sprint. 1975
Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:05
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Is that an ambulance to the left in the first shot, or a dormobile-shaped portent?
Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:08
Originally posted by Phil Rainford
Mr Arron and I watched a terrific sprint from Weighbridge Corner ( Corner by ambulance )
This was the event that David Render was in the Lotus 76 and Jim Ravenscroft attempted to climb the quarry wall in the Token.....no doubt Steve has the year
Kind regards
Phil
Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:09
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Rainford half-asleep alert... Jim Ravenscroft is known to his friends as John.
The sprint took place on March 20 1977. Render and Ravenscroft apart, notable entries included Len Cartmill and David Flanagan (who shared a Chevron B28), Hale resident Peter Kirkby (Lola T142), Alan Newton (F2 Huron), Paul Edwards (Brabham BT38), Richard White (McLaren M10B), Terry Smith (McLaren M14D), Dave Harris (McRae GM1) and Peter Nelson (Ford Anglia 3.0 turbo)...
Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:59
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 15:15
Programme (well, a couple of sheets of A4, distributed free of charge)? Check. Photographs? Check. Top Ten run-off results? I suspect not.Originally posted by Stephen W
You don't happen to have the results of the Top Ten run-off do you?