Pirelli Tyres 2013 [merged]

I don't see why they need to make the tyres even less durable than they are, right now we're at two/three stops which is where it should be. A wider operating window is welcome but ultimately pointless in that case... the races will still be mostly about tyre preservation and trying to reduce the number of pit stops.

Edited by Callisto, 18 October 2012 - 19:14.

Sounds like Button and Perez will dominate then.

Whatever happens, by Italy 2013, Newey will have solved it and Vettel will likely be 4 times champion like this year.

The bigger thing for me is that they are heavier in weight and will the changes will also affect the car's aero side.

Pirelli introduces a lottery effect each year.. I guess in a way it's very good.. because aero wise the regs are pretty stable at the moment.. but changing the tyres keeps the regs fresh.

It's not the optimum solution.. I wish there could be some sort of tyre war.. some sort of 'budgeted' tyre war.. with teams allowed to use whichever compounds they like each weekend (and NOT having to use both tyres) but this is the next best thing.

There always needs to be changes in F1 because the teams are too clever and otherwise things are too easy for them and things become stagnant and too predictable.

Interesting reading that Pirelli are introducing 2013 compounds that are less durable and have a wider range of operating window.

Sounds like a great idea with more pit stops adding an extra dimension with tyre compound choice. However... If we end up with a series of sprints between pit stops who could it favour?

Tires need to be good enough so drivers aren't scared to push and to try and overtake.

Edited by SpaMaster, 21 October 2012 - 18:15.

Get rid of the ridiculous rule of starting on tyres you qualified on. Why should success be handicapped? Also, teams should not be forced to use both compounds.

Edited by Mauseri, 21 October 2012 - 21:34.

While I agree on quali only tyres I don't see the need to change compound usage rules. It forces more strategy posibilities, which is a good thing

Get rid of the ridiculous rule of starting on tyres you qualified on. Why should success be handicapped? Also, teams should not be forced to use both compounds.

Edited by ViMaMo, 22 October 2012 - 01:54.

A lot of those rules are to cut costs for Pirelli. The point of being forced to use both compounds is to make sure that Pirelli doesn't have tons of unused tires left at the end of the weekend.

Though I do agree that they need to get rid of the Q3 starting tire rule. That was only added as a panic move because they thought in 2010 the races would be too boring.

Perhaps just bring one compound of tyre?

Tires need to be good enough so drivers aren't scared to push and to try and overtake.

THIS.

F1 is about speed, not just tyres management.

THIS.

F1 is about speed, not just tyres management.

Edited by SpaMaster, 22 October 2012 - 15:54.

"If anything, we will try and make it a little bit easier for the teams to have a wider working range but, having said that, we are probably going to go for some more aggressive compounds as well.

"As you've seen this year, we have averaged one pitstop less per year. If that trend carried on then we would be back to one pit stop at every race. So we need to do something to give it an extra challenge."

Tires need to be good enough so drivers aren't scared to push and to try and overtake.

F1 is not about speed. It is about conjuring up a race win, the championship! F1 has never been all-out sprint.

Edited by Massa, 22 October 2012 - 16:17.

I never said F1 was just about speed. But it's about speed and tyres management. These days, we see only tyres management, it's really boring.

IMHO, Suzuka 2000 was the best race i've ever seen. A straight battle between Schumacher and Hakkinen, Ferrari VS Mclaren, Byrne against Newey, with a lot of intensity, both guys were at full speed at each stints ( Barrichello and Coulthard was more than one minute behind their teammates ), it was fantastic. I would like to see this kind of race nowadays, with Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen chasing each others like that, pushing all the time. It would be fantastic.

they where so managing their tyres in canada.

they where so managing their tyres in canada.

Tires need to be good enough so drivers aren't scared to push and to try and overtake.

So how would you avoid teams being able to complete a race with 0-1 stops? Because if your request got fulfilled, it would be a likely possibility, in my opinion.

BUMP


Here is a race for you all, where the tyres had been consistent and reliable. Before the race, Hembrey was crying for more compounds, so the races could be more 'interesting'. I sincerely hope they draw the necessary conclusions from today's race, and do not fxxx up next season too.

Edited by showtime, 23 January 2013 - 11:45.

Yup, silver was the best colour too.

The tyres will be only 10% softer but of a more rigid construction and heavier, giving the cars better balance and grip.

Should be better for the teams and the show.

The tyres will be only 10% softer but of a more rigid construction and heavier, giving the cars better balance and grip.

Should be better for the teams and the show.

Orange is better, silver was too obscure.