Next year's cars

Edited by Wander, 29 November 2012 - 18:11.

Now that overtakings have become all about pressing a button, cant we go back to beautiful cars

What era would that be?

Edited by Tombstone, 30 November 2012 - 13:19.

1967



Edit: Which rather nicely matches your avatar

What era would that be?

that is definetly NOT a beautiful car.

best cars were made in 2007 ~

Edited by MrFondue, 02 December 2012 - 11:32.

that is definetly NOT a beautiful car.

best cars were made in 2007 ~

that is definetly NOT a beautiful car.

TBH, the last best (beast) looking cars were made in 2005, they were monsterous as well as powerfull, with sufficient curves to make them masculine, from 2006 onward, they piled on aero pieces till 2010, which were frankly hideous.

and IMHO, the best looking (and menacing too) F1 car of the 2000's was the mighty MP4-20 , with steel grey ice cold tone (why macca chose to go BLing with chrome baffles me still) with the Iceman at the steering wheel ....




i particularly liked the 'Devil horn' winglet near the intake ...

1967



Edit: Which rather nicely matches your avatar

Edited by Wander, 02 December 2012 - 18:27.

The noses most likely won't be stepped next year, thanks to a new regulation. From Formula1.com:

"The stepped noses seen on most of this season’s Formula One cars - and deemed ugly by many - are very likely to disappear next year, thanks to a change in the FIA’s technical regulations allowing teams to cover them with special fairings.

The revised rules, just published by Formula One racing’s governing body, give details of the ‘modesty panels,’ which can be used to smooth the transition between the low nose and the high chassis. The fairings will not affect the car’s impact-protection properties and teams will not be able to modify them to gain an aerodynamic advantage.

Article 3.7.9 of the 2013 technical regulations refers to the new panels as “an optional, single piece, non-structural fairing of prescribed laminate (whose precise lay-up may be found in the Appendix to the regulations) which may not be more than 625mm above the reference plane at any point.”"

Also, heard on a Flying Lap episode from a month or so back that 2014 car rules are going to bring back the low noses similar to those of the early 90s.

I think we'll have better looking cars next year, but hey, there's a thread for "your favourite car design" somewhere...
The stepped noses I believe will remain, but be covered up as already said.... Can someone explain the logic in that? Is it just a dimensional allowance?

Edited by Crafty, 02 December 2012 - 21:03.

I think we'll have better looking cars next year, but hey, there's a thread for "your favourite car design" somewhere...
The stepped noses I believe will remain, but be covered up as already said.... Can someone explain the logic in that? Is it just a dimensional allowance?

I was wondering what next years cars will look like? As the regulations haven't changed significantly I would guess most cars will be iterations of the 2012 designs. The coanda exhuaust seems to be the must have aerodynamic feature. There's the vanity cover for the nose step.
How many teams will make a big effort with next years cars? Will some people be concentrating on the 2014 regulation changes and not bother too much next year?

Will this be the last year of the airbox above the drivers head? The 2014 turbo engines should negate the need for the airbox and make for an mp4/4 style of engine cover with a roll hoop surely?

That would be interesting...

How does the DRS work on that?

IIRC its because the lower wishbone mount has to be a certain height off the ground, this dictates where the upper wishbone mount needs to be.
The easiest way to oblige the nose height rule and the wishbone mount rule was to have a step in the nose.

Low noses get a thumbs up in my book, looks right..

Edit: I wonder if it means we'll get noses like the Jordan 191..

Edited by eronrules, 03 December 2012 - 09:45.

with all that supposed loss of downforce in 2014, all they'll need is an extra 300+hp and things could get interesting

I would like that they make the front wing smaller. I still can't get used to the snowplough size. It also brings a lot of punctures and broken front wings.

so the rumors were true ... jordan was funded by Osama

I would like that they make the front wing smaller. I still can't get used to the snowplough size. It also brings a lot of punctures and broken front wings.

wait for 2014, your wish will come true

yep, interesting in the sense that RB will finally have a car matching power to the mercs/ferraris and there dominance will be more profound. TC v6s will top 700+ but what'd make it interesting is the wide power range (and torque) of a turbo engine. so instead of constant shifting between 18-18.5K, we'll have some good gear ratios and interesting races (atleast for the first year or so) also interesting will be use of coanda with TC engines, specially if someone decides on one TC over 2 smaller ones.

Indeed. Having one or two centrifugal pumps in the exhaust system may indeed have its merits - particularly off-throttle with the reverse compounding effect.

Edited by Timstr11, 03 December 2012 - 14:54.

As of 2014, exhaust-floor blowing will be history.
-There will be a single turbo and single pipe exhaust in 2014. Don't see how that could be used for floor blowing.
-Heat recovery and energy regeneration from the exhaust will take out all worthwhile energy from the exhaust.

Edited by maverick69, 03 December 2012 - 15:12.

With variable vane technology and motorized spooling of the turbo off-throttle you can defo get a prounounced pumping effect........ Like a hairdryer I guess. It's just an issue of what the teams decide to be of most value. For example - Red Bull have always put a premium on packaging and aero over KERS...... And cleaned up.

Gonna be interesting...... And very, very expensive.........

Maybe Hamilton is not such a mug after all............

With variable vane technology and motorized spooling of the turbo off-throttle you can defo get a prounounced pumping effect........ Like a hairdryer I guess. It's just an issue of what the teams decide to be of most value. For example - Red Bull have always put a premium on packaging and aero over KERS...... And cleaned up.

Gonna be interesting...... And very, very expensive.........

Maybe Hamilton is not such a mug after all............

yep, interesting in the sense that RB will finally have a car matching power to the mercs/ferraris and there dominance will be more profound. TC v6s will top 700+ but what'd make it interesting is the wide power range (and torque) of a turbo engine. so instead of constant shifting between 18-18.5K, we'll have some good gear ratios and interesting races (atleast for the first year or so) also interesting will be use of coanda with TC engines, specially if someone decides on one TC over 2 smaller ones.

I think that's a Newey strength that goes back to his Leyton House days.

Only 15 cm less.

Why not: front wings should fit between the front wheels when they are lined up to drive in a straight line. Since the width and tire sizes are a given, you can deduct the size for the wing. You can also end the square end plates. They were ruled to prevent punctures, but that clearly didn't work. Oh yeah, why not bring back the wider cars? Weren't the cars made smaller due to higher cornering speeds with the more stable wide cars?

Edited by Tenmantaylor, 04 December 2012 - 16:19.

that is definetly NOT a beautiful car.

best cars were made in 2007 ~