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#51 TerryS

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 04:37

As original, the fronts a tad narrower, the rears a tad wider than a Formula Ford, assuming that the mandated FF wheel width is the same as it is here. The tyres have changed more!


The tyres on a Kent engine Formula Ford are all limited to 5.5 inches.

The tyres on a Lotus 27 Formula Junior were 4.5 inches at front and 5.5 inches at rear.

On both cases they were on 13 inch wheels.

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#52 SJ Lambert

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 04:52

Something like Dunlop R6 tyres back in the day?



#53 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 05:23

Yes, R6s...

There must be photos around showing the tyre sizes used, but I'm sure I remember seeing 5.50s on the front and 6.50s on the rear.

#54 TerryS

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 06:19

Yes, R6s...

There must be photos around showing the tyre sizes used, but I'm sure I remember seeing 5.50s on the front and 6.50s on the rear.


Ray that could have been on the 1.5 litre cars, as I was quoting Formula Junior sizes, the only regs I could find.

#55 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 06:35

Wasn't Formula Junior was finished in Australia before these cars arrived...

Interesting that there was a second chassis for Arnold.




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#56 SJ Lambert

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Posted 29 May 2018 - 12:40

The tyres on Scott's car at Symmons in 67 (in the shrubbery) are demonstrably wider than those on Arnold's car in the OP



#57 SJ Lambert

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 04:12

Jim Langdon's shot of Arnold Glass at Longford.

 

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#58 MarkBisset

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 04:54

Top shot James,

whereizzit tho, which corner?
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#59 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 05:53

Mountford...



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#60 GreenMachine

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 06:17

Look at the size of that roll bar!



#61 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 07:11

Not being up with FF I feel the RIM width is 6" and has been forever. Rim size does not denote tyre size

They have used no end of different tyres over the decades, starting here I think with Olympic GT radials in the 70s.

Some tyres have been proper race tyres and others street tyres. Desperation generally though has been the same.



#62 BRG

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 20:16

The original F. Ford rules in the UK mandated (excerpt from May 1967 RAC bulletin) : -

 

10. Wheels – Only steel disc type with a maximum rim width of 5.5 inches  (ie Ford Cortina GT wheels)

18. Tyres – Racing tyres are not allowed-otherwise free within standard production retail range as specified in section 1 of R.A.C. tyre regulations.

 

As I recall, the common choice at first was the Avon Wide Safety GT crossply , a road tyre that had very race tyre characteristics such as a flat tread area.  I had some on my Mini Cooper S and they were excellent.   I think later the Firestone F100 was preferred, until racing rubber was allowed.



#63 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 00:25

Not a problem, BRG...

 

The car's never been a FFord, it has alloy wheels anyway and Lee wasn't aware of that. Formula Ford hadn't started in Australia before Longford was gone.



#64 MarkBisset

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 03:45

Yes the car is a ANF1.5 Formula Lotus 27 - the same Arnold Glass car which features as James Lambert’s opening post of this thread.

 

Ron Lambert’s Longford shot inspired this article, my attempt at a piece about the ANF 1.5 class;

 

https://primotipo.co.../anf-1-5-litre/



#65 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 04:26

That would be ANF1½, Mark...

 

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