All in all, I’m quite impressed with how well Dovi performed this weekend. IIRC he compares somewhat equally on raw pace to Ekström, and favourably to Zanardi and Ogier, although the extensive testing at the actual venue would have helped quite a bit. I’m a bit surprised WRT didn’t just call him in at the end of the first lap and hoped for the Safety Car, but still, very good effort. Wouldn’t mind him having a go in the future as well.
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Posted 09 June 2019 - 15:39
I’m surprised more motorbike racers don’t do this tbh because they always seem to be rather competitive - arguably rally drivers too. Didn’t Lorenzo do pretty well when he tested for Mercedes? Nice to see Dovi being so credible on pace.
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Posted 09 June 2019 - 16:21
I’m surprised more motorbike racers don’t do this tbh because they always seem to be rather competitive - arguably rally drivers too. Didn’t Lorenzo do pretty well when he tested for Mercedes? Nice to see Dovi being so credible on pace.
A certain part of the skillset does appear to translate. I still think Rossi might’ve made a credible, if not spectacular F1 driver at one point and given more preparation, I do think that most good MotoGP riders would perform well in touring cars at the very least.
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Posted 09 June 2019 - 16:28
Sebastien Loeb was quite good in the WTCC too, no shame in being so close to a legend like Yvan Muller even if Lopez smoked them both. Loeb getting on the F1 grid for Abu Dhabi 2009 is one of the strangest stories in recent years, because it was reportedly so damn close to happening. Superlicence small print or something stopped it I think? Can’t remember, will have to google it. But Toro Rosso had the engine running ready for him.
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Posted 09 June 2019 - 16:44
All in all, I’m quite impressed with how well Dovi performed this weekend. IIRC he compares somewhat equally on raw pace to Ekström, and favourably to Zanardi and Ogier, although the extensive testing at the actual venue would have helped quite a bit. I’m a bit surprised WRT didn’t just call him in at the end of the first lap and hoped for the Safety Car, but still, very good effort. Wouldn’t mind him having a go in the future as well.
I was watching the race from Dovi's onboard feed on Youtube.
Actually, they called him in during Lap 1.
BUT than, they told him to stay out.
As he was driving past the pitlane entry, they asked him again to Pit in, but it was too late.
Amaetur hour by the team there 
I think Dovi did great. He struggled a little bit with tyre management, but his outright pace was great for a debut imho.
He was around 1.5 seconds off Pole Position lap time in quali, & was lapping faster than at least 4-5 cars during the race.
I can see him switching full time to touring car racing or DTM after his MotoGP career, with good results!
Edited by thegamer23, 09 June 2019 - 16:49.
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 12:02
Robin has zero luck this year... 
Race 1 stream if anyone's interested:
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 12:12
Didn't Rast stall at the start? I missed about ten minutes after that.
How did he end up with a huge lead? The graphics indicated that he has pitted?
Edited by Piledriver, 06 July 2019 - 12:13.
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 12:15
Another stupid race where the leaders are punished because of an early safety car. I’d rather just see no mandatory pit stops instead of what we currently get.
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 12:46
The race direction gave two laps for everybody in order to pit.
A bit like indycar.
That's the choice of the teams which rolled the dice by staying on track.
A bit like indycar.
That's the choice of the teams which rolled the dice by staying on track.
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 13:45
Why did they pit on first lap? Mandatory pit and tyres that don't wear too much?
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 13:51
Because they gambled on a SC which would give them track position.
As it turned out, only Rast made it really work.
As it turned out, only Rast made it really work.
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 08:04
Qualy 2 starts in about 15 minutes:
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 11:24
It's time for Divine Touring Machines DTM again lads and ladettes.
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 11:41
a bit harsh on Muller
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 11:54
It's one of these trying days for my favorite drivers it seems.
Interested to see how Rene climbs up the field.
Also shout out to that prince nerd, Keke and Gerhard.
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 12:56
That was a great race by Bruno Spengler. 
Rast finishing 7th, 25 points lead in the championship. Color me delighted.
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 16:02
Bruno was super impressive. I doubt even Rast could have challenged him today. It’s one of those days where a specific car/tyre/driver combo is comprehensively superior to everyone and everything else.
It took me a lot longer than I’d like to admit to come to terms with Bruno’s “treason” by defecting to BMW for 2012 and then “stealing” Paffett’s title immediately afterwards, but time heals most wounds, and after his long draught today was the first time I was genuinely, properly happy for him again.
Looking at the Astons, given that they are still down on power (according to Juncadella’s social media) that wasn’t actually a half-bad weekend. Fewer retirements than usual on an engine-heavy track is promising. Juncadella delivered another tyre saving masterclass yesterday, and made the alternate strategy work today. Yes, I’m a fan, but so far there has been a lot more to cheer about for him this year than usual. Di Resta, meanwhile, got the short end of the stick once again. Poor guy couldn’t buy a bit of luck.
It took me a lot longer than I’d like to admit to come to terms with Bruno’s “treason” by defecting to BMW for 2012 and then “stealing” Paffett’s title immediately afterwards, but time heals most wounds, and after his long draught today was the first time I was genuinely, properly happy for him again.
Looking at the Astons, given that they are still down on power (according to Juncadella’s social media) that wasn’t actually a half-bad weekend. Fewer retirements than usual on an engine-heavy track is promising. Juncadella delivered another tyre saving masterclass yesterday, and made the alternate strategy work today. Yes, I’m a fan, but so far there has been a lot more to cheer about for him this year than usual. Di Resta, meanwhile, got the short end of the stick once again. Poor guy couldn’t buy a bit of luck.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 12:15
Great performance by Spengler, and we all love our cars... but I'm not sure if this is even legal:
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Posted 16 July 2019 - 12:45
There has also been speculation that the DTM could race on the Nurburgring Nordschleife in the future, but Motorsport.com understands this is unlikely. While the World Touring Car Cup and the now-defunct World Touring Car Championship have both raced on the circuit in recent years, the DTM believes that the short number of laps on the 16.12-mile circuit would reduce the spectacle.
Numpties.
https://www.motorspo...ate-F1/4495943/
Edited by Kalmake, 16 July 2019 - 12:46.
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Posted 16 July 2019 - 16:50
Why? The race would be something like ~10 laps in length, really great for the spectators to see the cars for total of about a minute.....
Edited by Oho, 16 July 2019 - 17:25.
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Posted 16 July 2019 - 16:52
I love the Nordschleife as much as the next guy but WTCC races there have tended to be processions that nobody sees because of the lack of TV cameras through most of the track.....like watching the NW200 from high overhead from the helicopter but with rather less overtaking.
Edited by messy, 16 July 2019 - 16:52.
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Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:15
15 minutes until the start:
Edited by Anja, 20 July 2019 - 11:15.
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Posted 20 July 2019 - 12:04
How can di Resta drive that car without window wipers?
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Posted 20 July 2019 - 18:45
A boring procession that has nothing to do with touring cars, since so many years.
I mean, when could you last buy a rear wheel drive Audi touring car? Probably before WW2......
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Posted 20 July 2019 - 20:10
A boring procession that has nothing to do with touring cars, since so many years.
I mean, when could you last buy a rear wheel drive Audi touring car? Probably before WW2......
Thanks for your insight! Although "I haven't seen a single race for years" would have been shorter...
Edited by balage06, 21 July 2019 - 11:50.
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:49
Race 2 is on:
What a drive from Wittmann so far!
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:09
Race 2 is on:
What a drive from Wittmann so far!
Great drive indeed, now let's see if they need to take a second stop...
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:32
Another fun race. I should watch more DTM.
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:35
DTM has clearly become a very good product.
When you can have a show at Mickey Mouse track like Misano,Zolder and Assen it means that the product is very very good.
Seems like Berger knows one or two things about making races exciting 
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 13:17
Very enjoyable race after the dud we had yesterday (I felt it was quite boring despite the rain), and it was good to see the Astons in somewhat competitive form, with both Juncadella and Di Resta solidly in the points.
Meanwhile, Habsburg continues to disappoint. Still looking forward to seeing how they‘ll solve the situation with him being entered under “von” Habsburg on the entry list once we get to Austria.
Meanwhile, Habsburg continues to disappoint. Still looking forward to seeing how they‘ll solve the situation with him being entered under “von” Habsburg on the entry list once we get to Austria.
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Posted 10 August 2019 - 10:47
Not long until the 1st race at Brands Hatch. Does anyone know if its raining?
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Posted 10 August 2019 - 11:40
Not long until the 1st race at Brands Hatch. Does anyone know if its raining?
Weather report says cloudy. There's a Brands Hatch Live app on goggle. I've no idea how good/bad it might be.
You watch the races live on Freesports TV
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Posted 10 August 2019 - 13:31
Solid race with no SC interruptions thankfully. I'm not sure if di Resta jumped the start though, but it doesn't matter in the end...
( Good stategy AND no technical problems for Frijns? Am I dreaming? 
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 10:03
Total Audi dominance in qualy 2, Rast - Duval - Frijns at the top.
Race 2 starts in about 2 hours:
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:05
Some colourful language from di Resta there in the pits.
Edited by Currahee, 11 August 2019 - 13:06.
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:06
It sounded almost like angry Buemi 
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:07
I never thought Di Resta was capable of such e m o t i o n s .
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:18
Rast is going pretty slowly out in front. Even Juncadella in P9 has closed the gap to less than 10s
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:19
Will Müller be allowed to attack?
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 13:45
No. Too bad about crap team orders.
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Posted 11 August 2019 - 15:36
Did the TV coverage show Eng pass someone right around the outside of Paddock Hill bend in the first race?
I saw it live at the track and was confused as to why it wasn't in the YouTube highlights posted later that evening.
It was the highlight of the weekend, amazing pass.
I saw it live at the track and was confused as to why it wasn't in the YouTube highlights posted later that evening.
It was the highlight of the weekend, amazing pass.
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Posted 16 August 2019 - 20:24
A bit late, but was a Brands last weekend and had mixed feelings about the DTM. The cars are just nuts, so late on brakes and so early on throttle and you can realy see the areo working on them. But this also seamed to cause the racing to be a bit stale at times as they couldn't follow each other close enough to attempt an overtake, maybe im just too used to the BTCC way of racing which is a bit more robust.
Anyway here's my vid from Saturdays action if anyone interested:
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be
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Posted 24 August 2019 - 11:04
Race 1 starts in about 30 minutes at the Lausitzring!
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What happened there?
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Looked like the engine kept switching to limp-home mode or something.
