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Juan Manuel Correa injury and recovery thread [split]
#101
Posted 20 September 2019 - 16:22
#103
Posted 20 September 2019 - 18:04
Still a long way to go, and complications are always possible, but it does seem like the road to recovery starts now.
There was a comment made on the last page that said if he was lucky, he wouldn't remember anything about the crash. Is there any truth in this you reckon? I know when I had my cycling accident, being able to visit the scene and jog my memory and remember it all so I could piece together what happened really helped me.
What are your thoughts guys?
#104
Posted 20 September 2019 - 18:09
#105
Posted 20 September 2019 - 18:46
Still a long way to go, and complications are always possible, but it does seem like the road to recovery starts now.
There was a comment made on the last page that said if he was lucky, he wouldn't remember anything about the crash. Is there any truth in this you reckon? I know when I had my cycling accident, being able to visit the scene and jog my memory and remember it all so I could piece together what happened really helped me.
What are your thoughts guys?
I think the not remembering is because they think it would stop him blaming himself for Hubert.
But I actually think it might be the opposite, because if he doesn’t remember then he has no idea if he did do everything, if he could control the car, if he chose to go that way.
It would probably be better to know you did everything and failed rather than having a constant doubt about it.
Both are going to be tough and will probably require him talking it through with someone. But I think I’d personally rather remember a terrible thing and know I didn’t cause it rather than not remember and always wonder.
I know telemetry and on board video will be able to tell us most of the picture - but Correa might not really want to watch the onboard footage from his car. And that’s probably the only way you’d truly believe what people were telling you if you couldn’t remember.
Survivors guilt is a big thing anyway, I can’t imagine it’s not worse if you think you actually might have caused it.
#106
Posted 20 September 2019 - 20:21
Great to hear that his condition is improving!
#107
Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:00
#108
Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:01
Still a long way to go, and complications are always possible, but it does seem like the road to recovery starts now.
There was a comment made on the last page that said if he was lucky, he wouldn't remember anything about the crash. Is there any truth in this you reckon? I know when I had my cycling accident, being able to visit the scene and jog my memory and remember it all so I could piece together what happened really helped me.
What are your thoughts guys?
He did apparently remember everything when he got to the hospital in Liege (i think it was), being conscious and all.
The danger now isnt really his bodyparts and whatnot. A risk of ECMO-machines is permanent brain-damage to the patient, and considering how long they have kept him plugged in one im a bit worried.
I do hope that someone quotes this post sometime in the future with a: "YOU WERE WRONG!" tho. That would make me happy.
#109
Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:06
As of today, Juan Manuel Correa has been removed from the ECMO machine, life support and taken out of induced coma. While this is great news and a major step in the right direction, he is still in a race against time.
Juan Manuel is conscious, but not fully yet awake. Doctors report that this will take a few days due to being in induced coma for more than two weeks. They have also stated that Juan Manuel is fragile and still vulnerable medically speaking and that he remains in the Intensive Care Unit. His condition has been upgraded from critical to serious.
The medical priority for Juan Manuel now shifts from the lungs to the leg injuries that were sustained more than two weeks ago and have not been addressed since the initial emergency intervention the day of the incident. Doctors are in a race against time to perform a pending major surgery in order to minimize risk of irreversible injuries to his right lower extremity but can’t proceed until lungs are ready to withstand a lengthy operation.
Additional details will be provided on Juan Manuel’s condition when available.
http://racetechdevel...tember-20-2019/
#110
Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:34
Edited by milestone 11, 20 September 2019 - 21:35.
#111
Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:39
My take from living through some daunting things is that guessing is far worse than knowing.Still a long way to go, and complications are always possible, but it does seem like the road to recovery starts now.
There was a comment made on the last page that said if he was lucky, he wouldn't remember anything about the crash. Is there any truth in this you reckon? I know when I had my cycling accident, being able to visit the scene and jog my memory and remember it all so I could piece together what happened really helped me.
What are your thoughts guys?
Reality can suck -- but at least it's real.
#112
Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:09
That is a possible complication of ECMO because they need to pump you full of anti-coagulants, so your brain can bleed. That being said they would know if the patient had had a brain bleed - it’s a known risk and they watch for it. So I am not too worried about that really.He did apparently remember everything when he got to the hospital in Liege (i think it was), being conscious and all.
The danger now isnt really his bodyparts and whatnot. A risk of ECMO-machines is permanent brain-damage to the patient, and considering how long they have kept him plugged in one im a bit worried.
I do hope that someone quotes this post sometime in the future with a: "YOU WERE WRONG!" tho. That would make me happy.
Remember this is not your normal ECMO patient, they are normally older people suffering from a multitude of other conditions. It is one of those interventions that when done by people who do it a lot works a lot better than somewhere where it’s less common - to the point a lot of places operate specialist centres for it so they pool experts. I’m going to guess he was handled by someone who knew what they were doing!
As for this, that probably just means they made sure of his circulation in his leg, and maybe did a bit of bone pinning - in other words they will be going in to stitch all the bone together and hopefully let it heal.It doesn't appear, other than emergency intervention on the day of the accident, that much surgery has taken place on his legs. His right leg is giving cause for concern. http://classic.autos...rce=mostpopular
You don’t want it to heal in a stupid way, it doesn’t sound too concerning. It sounds very much “if we did nothing this would be bad” but the chances are on intervention it’ll be ok.
He might not regain total mobility but I’m going to be hopeful!
Edited by l12mcg, 21 September 2019 - 10:09.
#113
Posted 27 September 2019 - 05:46
https://twitter.com/...451709519388673
Translated:
With satisfaction and optimism I tell you that JM Correa already breathes his own means without problem. His lung recovery is excellent, and if everything goes on like this, he will be surgically operated on Sunday to restart the reconstruction of his legs. Hopefully everything goes well
#114
Posted 27 September 2019 - 06:01
#115
Posted 27 September 2019 - 20:52
Really happy to read this!
#116
Posted 27 September 2019 - 22:18
Earlier this week, Juan Manuel was transferred to a new hospital in London, England that specializes in orthopedic surgeries as the focus shifts from his lungs to his lower body extremities. Juan Manuel is now fully conscious, and his lungs have recovered much faster than anticipated. His overall physical improvement and willpower has doctors impressed. The main objective this week has been to get Juan Manuel in the best condition possible for his surgery on Sunday that will be 10+ hours in duration.
Sunday’s surgery will be crucial in determining Juan Manuel’s future. Doctors will have, for the first time since the accident, complete access to the wounds on his lower right leg. They will be able to determine the actual level of damage to his tibia, ankle, and foot. During surgery, they will save what can be saved and removed what needs to be removed in order to rebuild his right lower leg to the best possible condition. The surgeons are the top in their field and are cautiously optimistic given the fast-paced recovery that Juan Manuel has had in the previous week.
The injuries that Juan Manuel sustained are severe, and the surgery procedure is very complex. Doctors gave Juan Manuel the option of right foot reconstructive amputation. He has chosen NOT to have the amputation and to proceed with the surgery, understanding all the challenges involved.
http://racetechdevel...tember-27-2019/
#117
Posted 27 September 2019 - 23:29
Earlier this week, Juan Manuel was transferred to a new hospital in London, England that specializes in orthopedic surgeries as the focus shifts from his lungs to his lower body extremities. Juan Manuel is now fully conscious, and his lungs have recovered much faster than anticipated. His overall physical improvement and willpower has doctors impressed. The main objective this week has been to get Juan Manuel in the best condition possible for his surgery on Sunday that will be 10+ hours in duration.
Sunday’s surgery will be crucial in determining Juan Manuel’s future. Doctors will have, for the first time since the accident, complete access to the wounds on his lower right leg. They will be able to determine the actual level of damage to his tibia, ankle, and foot. During surgery, they will save what can be saved and removed what needs to be removed in order to rebuild his right lower leg to the best possible condition. The surgeons are the top in their field and are cautiously optimistic given the fast-paced recovery that Juan Manuel has had in the previous week.
The injuries that Juan Manuel sustained are severe, and the surgery procedure is very complex. Doctors gave Juan Manuel the option of right foot reconstructive amputation. He has chosen NOT to have the amputation and to proceed with the surgery, understanding all the challenges involved.
I have to say that this sounds really good. If what they are worried about is his lower right leg, then that's much less severe that I had thought.
#118
Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:27
I was wondering if you got the news (F2 has)
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#120
Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:08
Considering where this was two weeks ago this is excellent news.
#121
Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:14
#122
Posted 29 September 2019 - 09:10
It's tremendous that he appears to be out of mortal danger but it sounds like a still brutal injury for the young man to recover from. Hopefully his remaining injuries aren't as bad as this line makes them sound.
"They will save what can be saved and remove what needs to be removed in order to rebuild his right lower leg to the best possible condition."
#123
Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:37
Hopefully he's now in similar territory to that which Johnny Herbert found himself in 1988. Only one doctor out of several who examined Johny's feet reckoned they could be saved and the initial verdict was "He may walk again, but his sporting days are over".
Not that I know the details of Juan-Manuel's foot injuries but Johnny's were about as severe as they could be while still saving the foot in 1988.
Assuming he gets survives the surgery Juan-Manuel's life seems out of danger and he's been fully conscious and able to understand how complex the proposed surgery and recovery will be....which must be the best news.
#124
Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:39
This is very good news.
#125
Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:39
#126
Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:52
Great to hear especially that the lung involvement has gotten a good prognosis and almost an all clear. Great news to hear
#127
Posted 30 September 2019 - 10:17
Wonder how the surgery went? Assuming there'll be some kind of update today.
#128
Posted 01 October 2019 - 07:27
Les comento q ayer Finalmente JM Correa fue operado d sus piernas. 17 horas duró la operación y el pronóstico para su completa recuperación es bueno. Pero esto tomará tiempo y algunas intervenciones adicionales para q nuestro piloto logre recuperarse totalmente.Oremos xq así sea.https://twitter.com/...875985581752320
#129
Posted 01 October 2019 - 07:48
Good stuff.
A full recovery and a return to racing would be fantastic but both physically and psychologically, it'll take a long time I'd imagine.
Hopefully the motorsport community continues to support him all the way.
#130
Posted 01 October 2019 - 20:26
Great news - it would suggest that they've been able to save his foot.
#131
Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:51
Great news - it would suggest that they've been able to save his foot.
I wish we could get some official medical statement on how the surgery went for Juan Manuel.
What I have found on twitter is from an Ecuadorian radio channel as tweeted:
#132
Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:42
Remember that to a medical team, "full recovery" usually means the patient can walk, talk, eat, poo and pee. It doesn't mean they'll be able to do everything they could before an injury. But the main thing is hopefully Juan-Manuel will have full quality of life.
It may be that like Johnny Herbert and other racing drivers who suffered terrible foot injuries in the 70s and 80s that he ends up with reduced mobility in the foot. The ankle joint is key to ability to dance around the pedals of a car.
Thankfully it really looks like his life is in no danger now, which is great news. And let's hope he recovers sufficiently to see him on the grid sometime in 2020.
#133
Posted 03 October 2019 - 11:52
Yeah, hopefully he returns to save us from having to watch Isakyaan.....
Seriously though, I'm still just so chuffed he pulled through because that got seriously worrying for a while. If he's able to resume his career that would be brilliant but one step at a time.
#134
Posted 03 October 2019 - 11:54
Would braking/throttling through the heel be preferred over hand controls should a foot be reduced in function? Somehow Zanardi and Monger seem to get on well with those, but I can't assess where there are some technical advantages on modulation/amplification.
#135
Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:10
#136
Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:17
We're talking about the physical ability to race again but don't underestimate the psychological part of it. He has not only the traumatic experience of his own crash, the life-threatening injuries and his road to recovery to deal with but also with the fact that one of his fellow competitors was killed in the same crash. It's a whole different ballgame psychologically.
Let's hope he can have a fairly normal life again and he can deal with it all psychologically first before hoping to see him back in a racing car again. Maybe he simply doesn't want that anymore after all this.
#137
Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:47
Jean-Pierre Michelet@JPMracerMore encouraging news regarding J. Correa. 72 hours after his delicate operation of the legs,
the most critical hours, the doctors are very happy and optimistic about the reaction of the body of JM.
The recovery will be long and with more corrective operations but everything is going well
https://twitter.com/...731285486514177
Good news
#138
Posted 03 October 2019 - 13:02
Sounds like circulation to the feet and toes is OK. That's the first and most important obstacle to overcome. They managed to save Herbert and Piquet's smashed feet...neither will win a running race but both raced again....Herbert was quite successful
I'm just really happy that Correa seems out of any danger. Next "step" is probably him taking back control of his social media accounts.
#139
Posted 03 October 2019 - 19:34
On Sunday September 29th, Juan Manuel Correa was admitted into a planned operation to reconstruct his lower right extremity. Doctors performed a combination of Orthopedic Flap and External Fixation Surgeries, and after 17 hours in the operating room the 20-year-old emerged with hopeful news from doctors that the surgery was successful.
The days following the surgery were stressful as though deemed a success in the operating room, the next 48 – 72 hours were critical in the final outcome of the Flap Surgery procedure.
Now Thursday, and more than 72 hours later, doctors are confident in a successful procedure while still under careful observation. During the procedure, doctors were forced to remove more bone material than they anticipated and solve several blood vessel issues, but state that the main objective of the surgery was achieved. Juan Manuel remains in a London hospital and he is scheduled for one additional, less complex surgery in two week’s time.
Doctors expect Juan Manuel will be able to leave the hospital in approximately six weeks. He will then embark on the road to recovery. The next year will be full of physical therapy, rehabilitation and corrective surgeries with the aim and objective of regaining the full use of his right foot and ankle.
“This past few weeks have been extremely tough, tougher than anything I have ever faced both physically and mentally. I understand my future regarding the recovery of my legs, specifically my right leg is still quite uncertain, and that my physical rehab will be extremely long and complicated. I am still processing everything that has, and is, happening,” explained Juan Manuel. “I want to thank every single person who one way or a another has shown me their support. I am humbled by the immense number of caring and affectionate messages I have received. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart, and know that your encouragement and positivity have made a difference.”
http://www.fiaformul...Manuel-Correa-/
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#140
Posted 08 October 2019 - 18:33
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Edited by Marklar, 08 October 2019 - 18:34.
#141
Posted 08 October 2019 - 18:44
#142
Posted 08 October 2019 - 18:46
He seems as well as can be expected, which is good to see. It's clear he's still wrapping his head around what happened, which is entirely understandable.
#143
Posted 08 October 2019 - 19:05
#144
Posted 08 October 2019 - 20:05
#145
Posted 08 October 2019 - 23:31
#146
Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:42
Super news, though I do wish Autosport got a shift on, it's not even on the front page anywhere - I found out on social media!
#147
Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:14
I hope he has the mental strength and the support to stay strong during the recovery.
#148
Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:38
He looks much better than I feared
https://www.instagra...id=ga1lfnq5hgrb
Great to see him appearing physically well, albeit you do get the impression that he's struggling with the emotional side of the crash.
#150
Posted 24 October 2019 - 12:01