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#251 Sparky68

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 23:40

All the best Sparky . Get well soon. Your team needs you :)

Getting there slowly bud, takes time as the nerves all start working again.



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#252 A3

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 05:32

Getting there slowly bud, takes time as the nerves all start working again.


Are you already sure the operation was a success and there are no complications or does that take more time?

#253 Sparky68

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 09:44

Are you already sure the operation was a success and there are no complications or does that take more time?

Wont know for sure until the bone graft completes mate.



#254 Augurk

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 10:09

Great seeing the car out on track, especially those on boards. Really got my F1 itch back - which I managed to stow away for most of winter.

I know you can't base any judgement of these tests - but still. The car looks extremely stable, almost slightly understeery. Could be setup, could be my eyes are tricking me. 

 

However, having a very stable car to begin with and then bringing it more alive seems like an easier and more optimal route than having a very lively car and having to reign it in.



#255 Marklar

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 10:11

According to AMuS Red Bull will use the Mercedes 2019 approach: Basis version in week 1, big chances in week 2. "Only the paintwork will be the same in Melbourne"



#256 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:06

Great seeing the car out on track, especially those on boards. Really got my F1 itch back - which I managed to stow away for most of winter.

I know you can't base any judgement of these tests - but still. The car looks extremely stable, almost slightly understeery. Could be setup, could be my eyes are tricking me. 

 

However, having a very stable car to begin with and then bringing it more alive seems like an easier and more optimal route than having a very lively car and having to reign it in.

And a very promising start with the amount of laps! That´s the one thing you want to lead during testing. 



#257 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:17

That was interesting, the car looked pretty happy on mediums, a little loose on the rear on hards initially but 91 laps is awesome for the morning.

#258 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:20

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#259 jAnO76

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:37

That was interesting, the car looked pretty happy on mediums, a little loose on the rear on hards initially but 91 laps is awesome for the morning.


Live timing only showed hards.. tv more info?

Edited by jAnO76, 19 February 2020 - 12:45.


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#260 A3

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:38

Wont know for sure until the bone graft completes mate.

 

Wow. All the best then!



#261 Clrnc

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:42

The body work is amazing on this car. 



#262 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:46

Live timing only showed hards..


Oh yeah I forgot that’s what they call them now..

#263 Seanspeed

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:48

Really unusual turning vane area, no? What's going on there? 



#264 SenorSjon

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 13:27

According to AMuS Red Bull will use the Mercedes 2019 approach: Basis version in week 1, big chances in week 2. "Only the paintwork will be the same in Melbourne"

 

Well, since the same paint is used, the parts where it is sprayed upon won't change as well.  :rotfl:



#265 JeePee

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 17:08

167 laps for Red Bull and 282 laps for Honda. Nice!



#266 OO7

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 17:25

The body work is amazing on this car. 

Yeap, the car looks great.



#267 Ivanhoe

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 17:47

Max on today’s session

 

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Max Verstappen says the new Red Bull car is "fast everywhere" and its reliability has improved as well, following the first day of 2020 Formula 1 pre-season testing in Spain.

The Red Bull driver ended the opening day of action at Barcelona fourth overall in the standings, just over half a second adrift of pacesetter Lewis Hamilton in the Mercedes.

Verstappen completed the most laps of anyone with 168 across the day, and was bullish about his first day with the RB16.

"The car is fast everywhere, which is a good thing," said Verstappen about his first impressions of the car.

 

"And the reliability seems even better, so that is all very positive."

He added: "I think it's been a good day. The car has been working really well together with the engine, and that is what we want to see.

"For us that is the most important.

"I am very happy about that. We just want to learn the car and try things on the car and see what we can do."

Although Mercedes was clear at the front, Verstappen said that his team was only focused on itself and was not reading too much in to the times.

"We're not looking at that," he said.

"We just have to look at ourselves and focus on what we can improve.

"For us it was just about turning laps and testing different things. That's what we did today."

The only dramas Verstappen suffered during the day were two spins at the final chicane, which he escaped from both times without hitting the barriers.

"I touched once the gravel I think, that is why I spun," he said.

"And once I lost it in the second corner, so these things can happen trying to find the limits with the car and what we can do.

"Luckily no damage, which at the end of the day is the most important thing."


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#268 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 23:42

Is this the most laps Red Bull has done on day one in the hybrid era?

#269 Growing

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 23:46

167 laps for Red Bull and 282 laps for Honda. Nice!

I presume Honda is performing in a conservative way in power unity software.

#270 ARTGP

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 23:51

I'll lose it if I hear anyone say anything about Max and power cuts  :rotfl:



#271 Danyy

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 00:15

Really unusual turning vane area, no? What's going on there?


Downforce I hope ;)

#272 OO7

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 01:53

The RB16 looks quite insane:

 

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#273 OO7

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 02:23

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#274 Clrnc

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 06:27

The way the RB is packaged from side pods onwards is insane. Way tighter than anyone else.

#275 Flasheart

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 06:43

Yeh its not a nice op, they go through the front of your neck to get to the spine and have to move everything else out of the way, hence the life support.
Have a look on youtube for acdf surgery, have your dinner 1st lol


Fun stuff eh Sparky. I’ve had C6 done (fused from 5 to 7). Rest up, and heal well. Apologies to hijack things. Have a good season you drinks company bastards. 😉

#276 A3

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 07:34

The way the RB is packaged from side pods onwards is insane. Way tighter than anyone else.

 
 
Not so sure, the Merc looks amazing as well. Look at how much of the rear suspension you can see, the Red Bull seems a bit bulkier.
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#277 ViMaMo

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 07:44



Not so sure, the Merc looks amazing as well. Look at how much of the rear suspension you can see, the Red Bull seems a bit bulkier.
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RB has left more space for air flow above it's brake duct while Merc has channeled that space into brake duct.

#278 A3

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 07:58

RB has left more space for air flow above it's brake duct while Merc has channeled that space into brake duct.

 

 

I meant the yellow bit. 

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#279 JeePee

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 12:57

The RB16 has it's steering connect to the other side of the upright compared to Mercedes. If that little trickery of today means a lot of time, Red Bull is pretty much in trouble.

 

Unless they push the steering in at acceleration and pull it out at braking, which is unnatural.



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#280 GAZF1nut

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 12:59

Any updates from the red bull camp gents? Hoping to see RB at least challenge Mercedes



#281 SenorSjon

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 13:02

The RB16 has it's steering connect to the other side of the upright compared to Mercedes. If that little trickery of today means a lot of time, Red Bull is pretty much in trouble.

 

Unless they push the steering in at acceleration and pull it out at braking, which is unnatural.

 

That can be mechanicaly solved.



#282 JeePee

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 13:24

That can be mechanicaly solved.

Not before Australia.



#283 LightningMcQueen

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 13:24

That can be mechanicaly solved.


Not without diverting a ton of resources.. imagine it would be quite a few races before it could be copied

#284 ARTGP

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 13:35

Not without diverting a ton of resources.. imagine it would be quite a few races before it could be copied

 

 

There is no cost cap right now  :lol:. Make of that what you will.


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#285 LightningMcQueen

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 13:43

There is no cost cap right now :lol:. Make of that what you will.


People will be the bigger factor, in only guessing but I I don’t think that will be particularly easy to copy..

#286 SenorSjon

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 14:58

There is a lot of space used by rule, not by desire on the top of the nose. The system doesn't look overly complex.



#287 OO7

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 19:12

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#288 GAZF1nut

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 19:53

Ferrari fan here, but I will be elevated if the Red Bull can take on Mercedes this season! The car looks incredibly promising 



#289 Ivanhoe

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 20:27

Let’s both take them on  :up:


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#290 GAZF1nut

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 21:22

Let’s both take them on  :up:

Amen to that, I would love to see Max take them on and beat them without cheap tricks



#291 Danyy

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 22:07

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 22:09

Amen to that, I would love to see Max take them on and beat them without cheap tricks


Are you referring to the DAS as a cheap trick? If so you must be forgetting the multiple title won by red bull legal innovations.. bendy wings, blown exhausts... that’s a bit of a desperate and disrespectful statement dont you think.

FWIW - I also hope for a close championship.

#293 Danyy

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 22:40

The car looks like it suits Albon too which is good news. Good long run pace from him. I think it’s possible both him and Max could do 200 tomorrow. The Honda has been flawless.

#294 pierrre

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 23:07

a video on the launch red bull racing rb16

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#295 Danyy

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 06:44

Some onboard of Max from D1
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That last one, whatever those tyres are called now C1?? Even with the amount of downforce on the Red Bull it still took them a while to switch on. Would be surprised if they are used anywhere this year tbh

Edited by Danyy, 21 February 2020 - 07:03.


#296 OO7

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 15:32

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#297 OO7

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 16:12

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#298 GAZF1nut

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 16:30

What’s all this talk of a “special bulkhead” for red bull?



#299 gillesfan76

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 17:15

Packaging is amazing. Best rear of the field, better than Ferrari and Merc. Whether it translates to lap time is another thing.



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#300 OO7

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 17:19

Packaging is amazing. Best rear of the field, better than Ferrari and Merc. Whether it translates to lap time is another thing.

Definitely not better/of a smaller volume than the Mercedes although more elegant.