Does anyone know how many different F1 cars were ever built which raced in F1? And how many different chassis?
How many F1 cars and chassis ever raced in World Championship?
#1
Posted 15 August 2021 - 07:47
#3
Posted 15 August 2021 - 09:01
#4
Posted 15 August 2021 - 09:55
I'm obviously going nuts as I swear I saw another response to this!
Anyway apart from the gargantuan scale of the task of listing every chassis there is also the complexity of how many of those chassis wore the same identifying plates as another bent/replaced chassis, or how many chassis plates were re-used to cut down on customs paperwork?
A quick example is the well testified history of Lotus 49 chassis rebuilds and renumbers. I also remember reading about a customer for a "new" March chassis finding blue and yellow paint from the previous year under his shiny new paint job.
Oh and do you count the guy who failed to qualify, but sneaked out and joined the back of the field anyway before getting black flagged from the race wot he should not have been in? As a second hand car was involved that may not be a problem.
Perhaps Sebastian Vettel could have a go at listing them in reverse!
#5
Posted 15 August 2021 - 09:57
For a start Mike Lawrence's "Grand Prix Cars 1945-1965" lists 100 cars. Deduct out the F2 cars from 1952-53 and that would drop to, say, 80. Add in the new makes since 1966 and you'll be back up to at least the 100. Now decide whether, for example, McLaren-Ford, McLaren-Porsche, McLaren-BRM, McLaren-Honda, McLaren-Alfa Romeo etc are one make or several and the picture comes even murkier, Then we have rebranding, eg is a McGuire a different car from a Williams? These and other variables could give you a number of makes of 100 to maybe 250.
As for chassis. How do you count these? On the one hand, Maserati made about 25 250Fs, all slightly different, is that one chassis or 25? Then a company which has been in racing for 50 years could have produced a new, or revised, design each year and maybe 5 examples of each - that's 250 chassis per maker. So the number of chassis could be any number you can think of up to maybe 50,000.
It would be a lifetime's work to come up with a number for either of these meaningless statistics.
Edited by D-Type, 18 August 2021 - 09:09.
#6
Posted 15 August 2021 - 10:12
https://www.statsf1..../gp/nombre.aspx
#7
Posted 15 August 2021 - 16:44
I also remember reading about a customer for a "new" March chassis finding blue and yellow paint from the previous year under his shiny new paint job.
Now my memory is unreliable, but I think this was Ian Scheckter who, in 1977, had a "new" chassis which turned out to have orange paint underneath, implying the car was second-hand, and may not have escaped an occasional ding.
#8
Posted 16 August 2021 - 10:39
Now my memory is unreliable, but I think this was Ian Scheckter who, in 1977, had a "new" chassis which turned out to have orange paint underneath, implying the car was second-hand, and may not have escaped an occasional ding.
It was the same car Brambilla won in Austria with...
#9
Posted 17 August 2021 - 06:39
It was the same car Brambilla won in Austria with...
I do not remember all the details but there is a similar story regarding old paint with the alledgedly 'new' 761 Frank Williams acquired for Patrick Neve to race :-)
#10
Posted 17 August 2021 - 15:28
I do not remember all the details but there is a similar story regarding old paint with the alledgedly 'new' 761 Frank Williams acquired for Patrick Neve to race :-)
In my notes it is actually an old 742! (unknown which one)
#11
Posted 17 August 2021 - 21:39
I've taken every year from f1technical.net, thrown out obvious duplicates (but not Indy or F2 cars) and arrived at the figure of 991 different chassis types, including B, C, D variations and all the other alphabetti spaghetti.
#12
Posted 18 August 2021 - 09:34
It was the same car Brambilla won in Austria with...
Well your unreliable memory is probably better than mine! at least I think that is what SWMBO keeps muttering.......
As for March pulling a fast one on Frank, well that must have been a first. Perhaps they were phoning each other from adjacent phone boxes. If there is anyone sharper than a second hand car salesman it has to be a second hand (pre-loved?) racing car salesman. One careful owner and then there was Vittorio.
I must dig out my history of March that Max allegedly threatened to sue the author over. The author has stated that he told Max he would see him in court and Max backed down. A first for everything.
#13
Posted 18 August 2021 - 09:54
I've taken every year from f1technical.net, thrown out obvious duplicates (but not Indy or F2 cars) and arrived at the figure of 991 different chassis types, including B, C, D variations and all the other alphabetti spaghetti.
Must have been good fun when it came to the Alfa Romeo 179's in 1981, I remember even Jenks giving up on trying to work out what was going on their with the mixture of 1981 cars 179C, updated 1980 179D, and updated 1981 179E
#14
Posted 18 August 2021 - 10:37
Must have been good fun when it came to the Alfa Romeo 179's in 1981, I remember even Jenks giving up on trying to work out what was going on their with the mixture of 1981 cars 179C, updated 1980 179D, and updated 1981 179E
Just a cut and paste job so I haven't vetted it that thoroughly. The entire list is here if you're interested:
http://www.halmyre.c...ssis-1950-2021/
#15
Posted 18 August 2021 - 10:52
Well your unreliable memory is probably better than mine! at least I think that is what SWMBO keeps muttering.......
As for March pulling a fast one on Frank, well that must have been a first. Perhaps they were phoning each other from adjacent phone boxes. If there is anyone sharper than a second hand car salesman it has to be a second hand (pre-loved?) racing car salesman. One careful owner and then there was Vittorio.
I must dig out my history of March that Max allegedly threatened to sue the author over. The author has stated that he told Max he would see him in court and Max backed down. A first for everything.
The build sheet for March 761-7 (Williams GP Engineering, Patrick Neve) says updated 751, manufactured from as many second hand components as possible.
Williams wanted the cheapest possible car, it's possible that he might have failed to mention to the sponsors that it wasn't brand new!
It even had 75R front uprights, which were aluminium rather than magnesium for Formula Renault!
When they crashed it in testing for the Belgian GP (important to the driver and sponsor) orange paint was revealed, so it's likely it was the Austrian GP winner.
#16
Posted 18 August 2021 - 12:12
Just a cut and paste job so I haven't vetted it that thoroughly. The entire list is here if you're interested:
Not to sound critical (me? ), but it doesn't take long to shoot holes into that list...
#17
Posted 18 August 2021 - 13:03
Not to sound critical (me? ), but it doesn't take long to shoot holes into that list...
Fire away, I only collated it !
#18
Posted 18 August 2021 - 21:04
At the moment I have about 3778 different chassis, but I am busy weeding out the doubles, so will end up with significantly less. Still puzzling about how to present the whole finished list to you, since attachments are not possible.
I have taken Formula 1 to be the World Championship races since 1950 but have excluded the 11 Indianapolis 500 because that is a very different world with virtually no overlap (and not all chassis numbers are available)
Only cars that have raced will count. Races with multiple starts only include the final start, and from 2017 on some chassis numbers appear to be unavailable. 2021 is completely excluded.
Engine changes have not been taken into account, because this is about chassis. It's also possible but a lot of work again.
Edited by Henk Vasmel, 18 August 2021 - 21:19.
#19
Posted 18 August 2021 - 21:31
Without a tremendous amount of painstaking verification you have a challenging task ahead of you, Henk - and I mean Tremendous!...
So good luck with that.
DCN
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#20
Posted 18 August 2021 - 21:46
Without a tremendous amount of painstaking verification you have a challenging task ahead of you, Henk - and I mean Tremendous!...
So good luck with that.
DCN
Fortunately, I do not claim to be perfect. But I try to be as close as possible. The challenging task is not ahead of me but behind me. I have been collecting these data since the mid seventies. I hope to have found most of the relevant data, but I know there still is more than I have found. Plus human beings are fallible, so it would be a surprise to me if everything is 100% perfect. That is why I want to share my data with you, so that corrections can be found.
#21
Posted 19 August 2021 - 06:46
Fire away, I only collated it !
For starters, you list nine Wolf types when there were only three. Similar with the early Tyrrells, those were chassis, not type numbers - Tyrrell 007 was only the third Tyrrell type.
#22
Posted 19 August 2021 - 07:52
For starters, you list nine Wolf types when there were only three. Similar with the early Tyrrells, those were chassis, not type numbers - Tyrrell 007 was only the third Tyrrell type.
I was aware of the Tyrrell situation but I didn't realise Wolf were in the same boat. As I understand it, 001 - 004 were the same type, then 005, then the three 006s, so 007 was the fourth type.
Anyway, were Tyrrells 001 to 004 absolutely identical? Or did they vary in some respects much like the Lotus 49 or 72 B/C/etc variants? The 002 - 004 cars had a longer wheelbase for example.
All this before you even get to individual chassis numbers. I don't envy Henk's task!
#23
Posted 19 August 2021 - 07:52
Fortunately, I do not claim to be perfect. But I try to be as close as possible. The challenging task is not ahead of me but behind me. I have been collecting these data since the mid seventies. I hope to have found most of the relevant data, but I know there still is more than I have found. Plus human beings are fallible, so it would be a surprise to me if everything is 100% perfect. That is why I want to share my data with you, so that corrections can be found.
Wow ! Talk about biting the bullet !
The Alfa Romeo 179 series are among my favourite cars but their numbering system to my mind was a can of worms to say the least.
IIRC from their introduction in late 1979 to the end of 1980 the cars were only ever known as 179 or T179. So far as I can remember towards the end of 1980 at least one chassis was built that was heavily revised and possibly lighter than the previous examples, but I do not recall it ever being given the suffix B.
In 1981 a discernably new model the 179C was introduced with what appeared to be shallower side pods and taller cockpit sides. So far so good the C suffix implied that some of the 1980 cars were a B spec but as I have said I do not recall them ever being referred to as such.
It soon became apparent that the 179C was not the step forward everyone was hoping for and I believe as early as the 1981 Spanish GP Bruno was given an updated 1980 car with the seasons de riguer full width front wing replacing the original elegant (canard ?) fins and an ill fitting 1981 paint job.
I believe it was at the 1981 French GP two of these revised 1980 179's appeared and they may have been publically announced as completely new cars, which they patently were not, with the 179D moniker.
Then somewhere around the time of the Austrian or Dutch GP a revised 1981 179C appeared which in theory could be referred to as a 179E.
In summary I believe there were two 179 types the first introduced in 1979 with as many as two further variants, B (suffix never used in period) and D (1981).
The second 179 type appeared in 1981 the 179C with one variant, E, I hope that helps.
I did start collecting a .jpeg record documenting all these changes but gave up completing it when I re discovered that DSJ admitted he could not keep up with the chaos that was unfolding at Autodelta and I believe from that point on he reffered to all the 1981 Alfa Romeo Formula One cars simply as 179.
If I turn up my incomplete record I will see if I can post it as a pdf somewhere if anyone is interested.
#24
Posted 19 August 2021 - 08:22
I was aware of the Tyrrell situation but I didn't realise Wolf were in the same boat. As I understand it, 001 - 004 were the same type, then 005, then the three 006s, so 007 was the fourth type.
Anyway, were Tyrrells 001 to 004 absolutely identical? Or did they vary in some respects much like the Lotus 49 or 72 B/C/etc variants? The 002 - 004 cars had a longer wheelbase for example.
All this before you even get to individual chassis numbers. I don't envy Henk's task!
Can of worms, really, but as I see it 005 and the three 006s were of the same "type"/"design". It gets very semantical here, what is a "type", or "design" really? A longer wheelbase can be a decisive caesura, but then again, some individual chassis changed wheelbase between practice sessions. See also arttidesco's erudite post about Alfa Rome/Autodelta type numbers!!
Also, are "individual chassis numbers" really the Egg of Columbus? Shouldn't we be talking about car entities, instead?
Edited by Michael Ferner, 19 August 2021 - 08:23.
#25
Posted 19 August 2021 - 12:22
Any truth in the rumour of mr. Tony Vandervell having sufficient parts to built up 10 different complete Vanwalls but for tax reasons had never more than 4 of them being complete and the official chassis numbers being placed on whatever cars that were built up?
Sidestep away from F1 but still dealing to some extend with Alfa Romeo:
I recently ran into info, written by a very acknowledged CART journalist who claimed that in 1989 the Morales Racing Team used two modified March 88C chassis fitted with the Alfa CART engines. But one car was still fitted with the old pullrod front suspension while the second car had push-rod front suspension.
No mentioning of the use of two brand new built up type 89CE chassis....
So why am I not surprised about F1 Tipo 179 confusion?????
#26
Posted 19 August 2021 - 13:09
So why am I not surprised about F1 Tipo 179 confusion?????
Here is what DSJ had to say in MotorSport after the 1981 Spanish and French GP's
'Alfa Romeo: The Milanese team seem to have got themselves in a bit of a muddle, the 179 and its derivatives suddenly goes well and nobody seems to know why. Then it goes badly and equally nobody knows why. On balance it goes badly. Giacomelli recalls his moment of glory at Watkins Glen last year when he led the race, though again nobody really knew why, and keeps asking for his 1981 car to be set-up like the 1980 car! Andretti seems to be living in hopes that Chiti and Marelli, the Autodelta engineers, will get everything right at the precise moment he is feeling good. A forlorn hope. At the start of the season they built new riveted-aluminium monocoques as the base for the 1981 cars and merely numbered them I, 2 and 3. Sometimes they refer to them as Type C, other times as Type D and more often than not they carry no reference type or number at all, so they have lost their identity and are merely Alfa Romeos powered by the V12 cylinder engines. If they ever win a race it will be more by luck than judgement.'
#27
Posted 19 August 2021 - 13:27
I suspect any attempt to impose order on something that, especially in the more distant past, was never in order to start with, may be doomed to failure.
#28
Posted 19 August 2021 - 13:37
I suspect any attempt to impose order on something that, especially in the more distant past, was never in order to start with, may be doomed to failure.
Agreed, but doesn't that make it more interesting?
#29
Posted 19 August 2021 - 14:11
Here is what DSJ had to say in MotorSport after the 1981 Spanish and French GP's
'Alfa Romeo: The Milanese team seem to have got themselves in a bit of a muddle, the 179 and its derivatives suddenly goes well and nobody seems to know why. Then it goes badly and equally nobody knows why. On balance it goes badly. Giacomelli recalls his moment of glory at Watkins Glen last year when he led the race, though again nobody really knew why, and keeps asking for his 1981 car to be set-up like the 1980 car! Andretti seems to be living in hopes that Chiti and Marelli, the Autodelta engineers, will get everything right at the precise moment he is feeling good. A forlorn hope. At the start of the season they built new riveted-aluminium monocoques as the base for the 1981 cars and merely numbered them I, 2 and 3. Sometimes they refer to them as Type C, other times as Type D and more often than not they carry no reference type or number at all, so they have lost their identity and are merely Alfa Romeos powered by the V12 cylinder engines. If they ever win a race it will be more by luck than judgement.'
The numbering and naming muddle was the same with the 158/159s 30 years earlier. It's good to know that some traditions were maintained, even if the level of success wasn't.
#30
Posted 19 August 2021 - 16:26
When I was given an hour or so to feast my eyes on the Alfa Corse and Scuderia Ferrari Alfa records at Arese I was disappointed/dismayed/amused/enthralled to see that cars were referred to therein by their race numbers rather than by any individual chassis identity, those being race numbers which changed almost every race weekend. And so from those records at least there was no overall continuous engineering record of how much work or mileage each frame/engine/transmission/suspension part had actually endured.
I wasn't very impressed...
DCN
Edited by Doug Nye, 19 August 2021 - 16:29.
#31
Posted 19 August 2021 - 17:02
Ahh, but Doug, didn't they tell you that they keep this information* in a seperate ledger...? ...!
* Numeri di Corse riferirsi a Numeri di Telaio
#32
Posted 19 August 2021 - 18:44
You know how most sites that quote the total number of Indy 500 drivers are wrong by about 50? The margins of error on this one could be even greater.
Yes because you could argue that the car named Footword really was an Arrows and that the Leyton House was a March. Stuff like that makes it complicated. But the topic poster possibly meant different chassis so every chassis from each team.... that would be a virtually impossible taks to go and count that.
#33
Posted 19 August 2021 - 18:46
I can just imagine some mechanic at AR saying "shouldn't we be writing all this down?" and a colleague looking at him in amazement and saying "whatever for?"
#34
Posted 19 August 2021 - 20:06
Now at 3739. Remarks about renumbered/cannibalised cars are next
#35
Posted 20 August 2021 - 06:33
I think every pro or semi pro series will have the same car with different numbers.
And from what I have read on here about dodgey chassis numbers going to Europe and back as tax dodges who would ever know. You may be able to work out the 'official' cars but there will be near certain more.
That and cars built from wrecks, or just a car to finish the season in that is a cobbled together car. And some of those were better!!
#36
Posted 20 August 2021 - 07:29
I distinctly recall my frustration when, as a spotty teenager eager to keep track with individual F1 histories, I read about Ligier cobbling together a car for Jack Lafferty from the "front half of chassis x and the rear half of chassis y" after a poor qualifying performance in which neither chassis appeared to work to satisfaction - images of throwing the notebook and pencil high into the air!!
#37
Posted 20 August 2021 - 08:30
Any truth in the rumour of mr. Tony Vandervell having sufficient parts to built up 10 different complete Vanwalls but for tax reasons had never more than 4 of them being complete and the official chassis numbers being placed on whatever cars that were built up?
Sidestep away from F1 but still dealing to some extend with Alfa Romeo:
I recently ran into info, written by a very acknowledged CART journalist who claimed that in 1989 the Morales Racing Team used two modified March 88C chassis fitted with the Alfa CART engines. But one car was still fitted with the old pullrod front suspension while the second car had push-rod front suspension.
No mentioning of the use of two brand new built up type 89CE chassis....
So why am I not surprised about F1 Tipo 179 confusion?????
Vanwall did not use type numbers, so each car was known only by its chassis number, which went from VW1 to VW14 (VWL12 was a Lotus 18 and they skipped number 13). During 1957 there were ten Vanwall identities (VW1-VW10) and no more than four cars were assembled at any one time (there was no need for more), but each car retained its own identity.
As for Alfa Romeo 179s, I thought it was well known at the time that Alfa had four chassis plates which had customs carnets and attached them to whichever chassis they were taking to that weekend's race.
#38
Posted 20 August 2021 - 20:55
Doubles removed as far as I can tell, so this is my final count:
3340
separate chassis started world championship races between 1950 and 2020. Excluding the disclaimers I published before. The only thing I know for sure is that there will be errors here, so the number is probably not correct. But it will be close.
Now I'm going to work on presenting the full list to you. Will be a lot of separate posts, I think.
Please don't kill me over minor clerical errors. Constructive additions are extremely welcome.
#39
Posted 21 August 2021 - 11:06
Do it by decades maybe?
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#40
Posted 21 August 2021 - 18:54
Now at 3739. Remarks about renumbered/cannibalised cars are next
Thank you so much, nice work.
#41
Posted 21 August 2021 - 18:59
Thank you so much, nice work.
Thank you. It is a lot of work but it is for friends, so I don't mind. Counter now is at 3299. I have got some ideas about formatting the results. It will be alphabetical.
#42
Posted 21 August 2021 - 21:02
I distinctly recall my frustration when, as a spotty teenager eager to keep track with individual F1 histories, I read about Ligier cobbling together a car for Jack Lafferty from the "front half of chassis x and the rear half of chassis y" after a poor qualifying performance in which neither chassis appeared to work to satisfaction - images of throwing the notebook and pencil high into the air!!
IIRC something similar happend to Ronnie Peterson at The 'ring in '74. On the first day of practice he trashed the front end of his 72/R8, then the rear end of the spare 76/2 or JPS10 in sponsor speak. Over night the two good halves were cobbled together to make the unique 76/72, only ever called a 76. Ronnie started 8th and finished 4th, the best result for the shortlived 76 model.
#43
Posted 22 August 2021 - 11:44
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AFM 50 @ 1952
AFM-4 <14> {1953}
AFM-6 ? <9>
AFM-7 ? <R> {1953}
AFM-8 <R>
AFM 50 Sport @ 1953
M5 <R>
AGS JH21C @ 1986
031 <R> This is the 30th AGS (excluding 013)
AGS JH22 @ 1987
032 <7-> 6>
AGS JH23 @ 1988
033 <8> {1989} Ex Renault RE60 tub (RE60-04 & RE60B-B07)
034 <10>
035 <12>
036 <6> {1989}
AGS JH24 @ 1990
39 <R>
AGS JH25 @ 1990
42 <17>
43 <9x>
44 <R>
AGS JH25B @ 1991
B43 <8> updated
Alfa Romeo 158 @ 1951
158111/158-3 <R>
Alfa Romeo 158D @ 1950
158109/158-1 <2>
158110/158-2 <1>
158111/158-3 <1> updated
158112/158-4 <1> Seen in GB '51 as 159-1 ?
158114/158-6 <1>
Alfa Romeo 159 @ 1951
158109/158-1 <R> updated
158111/158-3 <1> updated
158112/158-4 <5> updated
158113/158-5 <1>
158115/158-7 <3>
158116/158-8 <1>
Alfa Romeo 159A @ 1951
158109/158-1 <4> updated
Alfa Romeo 159B @ 1951
158115/158-7 <2> updated
158116/158-8 <6> updated
Alfa Romeo 159D @ 1951
158113/158-5 <1> updated
158117/158-9 <3>
158118/158-10 <6>
158119/158-11 <5>
Alfa Romeo 308 @ 1953
50017 "AC78" <R> ??
Alfa Romeo Special @ 1963
"AS-1" <R>
Alfa Romeo 177 @ 1979
001 <12>
Alfa Romeo 179 @ 1979
001 <R> {1980}
002 <R>
003 <7Ax NC> {1980}
003 [001] <R> {1980} renumbered
004 <5> {1980}
005 [003] <R> {1980}
006 [002] <5> {1980}
006 [003] <R> {1980} renumbered
007 [002] <R*> {1980} Even though production reached double figures, cars remained 1, 2, 3 to facilitate paper work
Alfa Romeo 179B @ 1981
003 <8> updated
006 <15> updated
Alfa Romeo 179C @ 1981
001 [004] <9> both updated/renumbered
002 <10> updated
003 <R*> updated
004 <3> updated
006 [003] <10> both updated/renumbered
007 [002] <4> updated
Alfa Romeo 179D @ 1981
001 <R*> updated
002 <7> updated
003 <9> updated
006 <R> updated
Alfa Romeo 182 @ 1982
1 <11>
2 <R*>
3 <5>
4 <3x>
5 <R>
6 <9>
Alfa Romeo 183T @ 1983
T2 <12>
T3 <2>
T4 <5>
T4 [T3] <11->10> renumbered
T5 <4>
Alfa Romeo 184T @ 1984
T1 <4>
T2 <4>
T3 <8x-> 7>
T4 <3>
Alfa Romeo 185T @ 1985
T1 <R>
T2 <9>
T3 <9>
Alfa Romeo C38 @ 2019
01 <7>
02 <7>
03 <11>
04 <5>
06 <4>
Alfa Romeo C39 @ 2020
02 <11>
04 <9>
Alpha Tauri AT01 @ 2020
02 <11>
03 <10>
04 <7>
Alta GP @ 1950
GP-2 <9>
GP-3 <12 NC>
Alta F2 @ 1952
F2-5 <12>
Amon AF1 @ 1974
01 <R>
Andrea Moda S921 @ 1992
1 <R>
Arrows FA1 @ 1978
1 <9>
2 <6>
3-2 <11 DQ>
4 <2>
Arrows A1 @ 1978
1 <R*>
1(6) <5> {1979} renumbered New tub, 6th in the series, kept nr. 1A
2 <16>
2(3) <7> {1979} renumbered
3 <4>
3(5) <6> {1979} renumbered
Arrows A2 @ 1979
1 <13x>
2 <6>
Arrows A3 @ 1980
1 <6>
2 <10>
3 <2> Car at any time renumbered to B3?
4 <4> A3-4 could be the same car as A3-2 (see OldRacingCars)
5 <2> {1981} A3-5 built up using parts of A3-3*
6 <7> {1981}
Arrows A4 @ 1982
1 <5>
3 <R>
4 <12->10>
5 <6>
Arrows A5 @ 1982
1 <7>
Arrows A6 @ 1983
1 <11> updated A6-1 is an updated A5-1
2 <5>
3 <7>
4 <6-> 5> {1984}
5 <7-> 6> {1984}
Arrows A7 @ 1984
1 <12->11>
2 <5>
3 <6>
4 <9x>
Arrows A8 @ 1985
1 <11>
2 <5>
3 <7>
4 <4>
5 <6> {1986}
6 <7> {1986}
Arrows A9 @ 1986
1 <R>
Arrows A10 @ 1987
1 <11x>
2 <4>
3 <6>
4 <5>
5 <10>
Arrows A10B @ 1988
B1 <6> updated
B2 <4> updated
B3 <4> updated
B4 <3> updated
Arrows A11 @ 1989
2 <5>
3 <3>
4 <5>
5 <7-> 6>
Arrows A11B @ 1990
B1 <5>
B2 <RD> updated
B3 <9> updated
B4 <7> updated
B5 <9> updated
Arrows A18 @ 1997
02 <8>
03 <9>
04 <5>
05 <2>
Arrows A19 @ 1998
01 <9>
02 <R>
03 <4>
04 <6>
05 <13>
06 <5>
07 <R>
Arrows A20 @ 1999
02 <7>
04 <6>
05 <R>
07 <13>
Arrows A21 @ 2000
01 <R>
02 <7>
03 <6>
04 <4>
05 <6>
Arrows A22 @ 2001
01 <7>
03 <8>
04 <R>
06 <6>
Arrows A23 @ 2002
01 <6>
02 <R>
03 <10>
#44
Posted 22 August 2021 - 11:45
Aston Martin DBR4 @ 1959
1 <6>
2 <8>
Aston Martin DBR5 @ 1960
1 <11> DBR5-1 possibly built up on DBR4-2
2 <R>
Aston-Butterworth @ 1952
NB-41 <R>
NB-42 <R> Should have been called Cooper-AJB
ATS 100 @ 1963
01 <11>
02 <15>
ATS D1 @ 1978
2 <13 NC>
ATS HS1 @ 1978
1 <8> PC4 tub used in construction of HS1
2 <7>
3 <16>
ATS D2 @ 1979
1 <R>
2 <R*> Effectively D1-4, referred to as D2-2 by the team
3 <8>
ATS D3 @ 1979
1 <5>
2 <7> {1980} D3 or D4 depends on English or German counting
ATS D4 @ 1980
2 <10 NC>
3 <8>
4 <13> {1981}
5 <13->12> {1981}
ATS HGS @ 1981
1 <6>
2 <10>
ATS D5 @ 1982
1 <10> renumbered D5-1 ex HGS-1
2 <9> renumbered D5-2 possibly ex HGS-2
3 <7-> 5>
4 <5>
ATS D6 @ 1983
1 <11x>
2 <10-> 9>
3 <8>
ATS D7 @ 1984
1 <8>
2 <6>
ATS-Penske PC4 @ 1977
1 <8> different name
2 <6> different name
#45
Posted 22 August 2021 - 11:45
B
BAR 001 @ 1999
01 <R> Raced Test car (01)
02 <R>
03 <15>
05 <7x>
06 <8>
07 <8>
08 <R>
BAR 002 @ 2000
01 <6>
02 <7>
03 <4>
04 <4>
05 <5>
06 <R*>
BAR 003 @ 2001
01 <R*>
02 <7>
03 <3>
04 <3>
05 <R>
06 <5>
07 <8>
08 <10>
BAR 004 @ 2002
03 <8>
04 <R>
06 <4>
07 <10x>
08 <5>
09 <12>
BAR 005 @ 2003
02 <6>
03 <9>
04 <4>
05 <7>
06 <6>
BAR 006 @ 2004
01 <5>
02 <9>
03 <3>
04 <11>
05 <2>
06 <4>
BAR 0072005
02 <12>
03 <3>
04 <3>
05 <9>
Bellasi F1 @ 1970
S1-1-70 <R> Based on Brabham BT24
Benetton B186 @ 1986
1 <6>
2 <3>
3 <5>
4 <7>
5 <5>
6 <8x>
7 <1>
Benetton B187 @ 1987
3 <5> B187-1 destroyed by Fabi in pre-race practice at Rio De Janeiro
4 <8>
5 <R>
6 <4>
7 <3>
8 <4>
9 <4-> 3>
Benetton B188 @ 1988
1 <R>
2 <3>
3 <3>
4 <4>
5 <3>
6 <18>
7 <3>
8 <3>
9 <3> {1989}
Benetton B189 @ 1989
1 <8>
2 <3>
3 <R>
4 <2>
5 <5>
6 <2-> 1>
Benetton B189B @ 1990
B5 <4> updated
B8 <10x>
Benetton B190 @ 1990
1 <R*>
2 <3>
3 <2>
5 <4>
6 <2>
7 <2>
8 <1>
Benetton B190B @ 1991
B7 <7> updated
B8 <3> updated
B9 <R*>
Benetton B191 @ 1991
1 <4>
2 <1>
4 <3>
5 <4>
6 <4>
Benetton B191B @ 1992
B6 <3> updated
B8 <4>
Benetton B192 @ 1992
1 <2>
2 <2>
4 <3>
5 <1>
6 <3>
8 <2>
Benetton B192B @ 1993
B7 <R>
B8 <3> updated
Benetton B193B @ 1993
B1 <1>
B2 <2>
B3 <2>
B4 <4>
B5 <2>
B6 <8x>
Benetton B194 @ 1994
1 <R*>
2 <1>
3 <1>
4 <3>
5 <1>
6 <9 -> 8>
8 <1>
Benetton B195 @ 1995
01 <1>
03 <4>
04 <1>
05 <1>
06 <1>
Benetton B196 @ 1996
02 <2>
03 <4>
04 <4>
05 <2>
07 <6>
Benetton B197 @ 1997
02 <2>
03 <2>
04 <2>
05 <2>
Benetton B198 @ 1998
01 <R*>
03 <5>
04 <4>
05 <6>
06 <2>
07 <4>
Benetton B199 @ 1999
01 <R>
04 <2>
05 <5>
06 <5>
07 <7>
Benetton B200 @ 2000
02 <2>
03 <5>
04 <3>
05 <7>
Benetton B201 @ 2001
01 <10>
03 <6>
05 <5>
06 <3>
BMW Sple. @ 1952
N/A <R> Looked like a Simca with a BMW engine; Possibly a Gordini chassis?
BMW-Sauber F1.06 @ 2006
02 <3>
03 <6>
04 <4>
05 <3>
08 <8>
09 <9>
BMW-Sauber F1.07 @ 2007
03 <4>
04 <18>
05 <2>
07 <4>
08 <4>
BMW-Sauber F1.08 @ 2008
03 <1>
04 <2>
05 <2>
07 <2>
BMW-Sauber F1.09 @ 2009
03 <7>
04 <2>
05 <13>
06 <7>
07 <5>
08 <2>
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Brabham BT3 @ 1962
F1-1-62 <4>
Brabham BT6 @ 1963
FJ-5-63 <R>
Brabham BT7 @ 1963
F1-1-63 <1> {1964}
F1-2-63 <2>
Brabham BT10 @ 1964
F2-4-64 <R*>
Brabham BT11 @ 1964
F1-1-64 <3> {1965}
F1-2-64 <2> {1965}
F1-4-64 <6> {1966}
F1-5-64 <3>
F1-6-64 <3> Rebuilt with new space frame
IC-5-64 <8 NC> {1967} Ex BT7-F1-2-63 ?
Brabham BT11/22 @ 1968
F1-2-64 <R> different name = Ghost BT22
Brabham BT18 @ 1966
F2-7-66 <R>
F2-22-66 <11>
F2-23-66 <R>
Brabham BT19 @ 1966
F1-1-65 [F1-1-66] <1> renumbered Or original designation
F1-1-65 <2> {1967}
Brabham BT20 @ 1966
F1-1-66 <2>
F1-2-66 <1> {1967}
Brabham BT22 @ 1966
F1-1-64 <7> different name Ex BT11 ?
Brabham BT23 @ 1967
4 <7>
7 <R>
Brabham BT23B @ 1969
B3 <R>
Brabham BT23C @ 1969
C17 <6>
Brabham BT24 @ 1967
1 <1>
2 <1>
3 <6> {1969}
Brabham BT26 @ 1968
1 <5>
2 <3>
3 <R>
Brabham BT26A @ 1969
1 <2> BT26A1 = ex BT26-4
2 <6> updated
3 <1> updated
4 <1>
Brabham BT30 @ 1969
3 <10>
5 <7>
Brabham BT33 @ 1970
1 <5>
2 <1>
3 <3> {1971}
4 [1] <9> {1971}
Brabham BT34 @ 1971
1 <5>
Brabham BT37 @ 1972
1 <5>
2 <4>
Brabham BT42 @ 1973
2 <5>
3 <3>
4 <16x>
5 <11>
6 <12>
Brabham BT44 @ 1974
1 <1>
2 <2>
3 <7>
4 <4>
Brabham BT44B @ 1975
B1 <1> updated
B2 <1> updated BT44B-B2 = ex BT44-3
B3 <R*> updated BT44B-B3 = ex BT44-1
B4 <R> updated
Brabham BT45 @ 1976
1 <4>
2 <12x>
2-2 <11>
3 <4>
4 <4>
5 <2> {1977}
Brabham BT45B @ 1977
1B <6> updated
3B <3> updated
5B <8> updated
6B <2>
Brabham BT45C @ 1978
7C <2>
8C <8>
Brabham BT46 @ 1978
3 <3> BT46-1 & -2 probably the surface cooled Brabhams
4 <2>
5 <3>
6 <2>
7 <3-> 1>
8 <R>
Brabham BT46 V @ 1978
4V <R*> updated
6V <1> updated
Brabham BT48 @ 1979
1 <R*>
2 <4>
3 <7>
4 <4>
Brabham BT49 @ 1979
1 <R*> BT49-1 built around a BT48 tub, and another one too (49-2 or -3 ?)
2 <8x>
3 <7>
4 <2> {1980}
5 <7> {1980}
6 <1> {1980}
6 [3] <7> {1980} renumbered
7 <1> {1980}
8 <4> {1980}
8 [7] <2> {1980} renumbered
9 <1> {1980}
Brabham BT49B @ 1980
B2 <R> updated
B6 <10> updated
Brabham BT49C @ 1981
C11 <1> BT49C-C10 was a bad chassis
C12 <4> BT49C-C12 rebuilt around its front bulkhead
C14 <2>
C14 [C9] <1> renumbered
C15 <4-> 3> {1982}
Brabham BT49D @ 1982
D16 <1 DQ>
D17 <1>
D18 <2>
Brabham BT50 @ 1982
2 <R> BT50-1 built on BT49-2 (or was this BT50-0 ??)
3 <1>
4 <5>
5 <4>
Brabham BT52 1983
1 <R>
2 <10x>
3 <1>
4 <13x*>
Brabham BT52B @ 1983
B1 [B4] <7> both updated/renumbered
B3 <14x->13> updated
B5 <1> Picture of a dashboard shows a "7"
B6 <1>
Brabham BT53 @ 1984
2 <4-> 3> BT53-1 (ex BT52C, BT52D) used for winter testing
2 [6] <R> renumbered
3 <1>
4 <2>
5 <1>
6 <6>
Brabham BT54 @ 1985
1 <R>
2 <R*>
3 <6>
4 <9-> 8>
5 <1>
6 <2>
8 <4>
9 <R>
Brabham BT55 @ 1986
3 <8> BT55-1 tested and found unsuitable; later BT55's considerably modified
4 <6>
5 <R> BT55-5 written off at Donington by Warwick
6 <8>
7 <13x*>
Brabham BT56 @ 1987
1 <R>
2 <3x>
3 <9>
4 <3>
Brabham BT58 @ 1989
1 <6-> 5>
2 <3>
3 <6>
4 <11>
5 <5> {1990}
Brabham BT59 @ 1990
1 <17x>
2 <15>
3 <7>
5 <R>
Brabham BT59Y @ 1991
Y1 <R> updated
Y5 <11> updated
Brabham BT60Y @ 1991
Y1 <11>
Y2 <8>
Y3 <6>
Y4 <5>
Y5 <17>
Brabham BT60B @ 1992
B4 <11> updated
B5 <13> updated
Brawn BGP001 @ 2009
01 <1>
02 <1>
03 <1>
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#47
Posted 22 August 2021 - 11:46
BRM P15 @ 1951
No. 1 <5> Frame no. 2
No. 2 <7> Frame no. 3
BRM P25 @ 1956
251 <R>
252 <R*>
253 <R>
254 <R> {1957}
256 <3> {1958} Afterwards 256 cannibalised to build P48-481
257 <2> {1958} 257 used for construction of 48-482 in '59
258 <1> {1959} Only 258 survives, all other used for building P48's; 481 ex P25-256
259 <7 NC> {1959}
2510 <2> {1959}
2511 <6> {1959}
BRM P48 @ 1960
482 <7x*> Built from P25-257
483 <10x> Built from P25-259; P48-481 built from components of P25-256, but never raced
484 <5>
485 <3>
486 <10>
BRM P48/57 @ 1961
571 <6> 571 then to Le Mans-Rover car
572 <3>
573 <5>
BRM P57 @ 1962
5781 <1>
5784 <4> {1964}
5784 [5782] <2> {1963} renumbered rebuild of 5783, which always wore [5782], just like this one
5785 <1> 5785 rebuilt as super lightweight
5785 [5783] <2> renumbered
BRM P61 @ 1963
611 <2-> 3>
BRM P261 @ 1964
2613 <2>
2614 <1>
2615 <2>
2616 <1>
2617 <1> {1965}
BRM P83 @ 1967
8301 <9>
8302 <5>
8303 <2>
BRM P115 @ 1967
1151 <R>
BRM P126 @ 1968
1 <4> P126: Len Terry built
3 <2>
BRM P133 @ 1968
1 <2> P133 = P126, Bourne built
2 <R*>
BRM P138 @ 1969
1 <5>
BRM P139 @ 1969
1 <3>
2 <6>
3 <R>
BRM P153 @ 1970
1 <R>
2 <1>
3 <8>
4 <5>
5 <2>
6 <7>
7 <11> {1971}
BRM P160 @ 1971
1 <1>
2 <1>
3 <13>
3 [2] <9> renumbered
4 <4>
BRM P160B @ 1972
B1 <1> updated
B3 <20 NC> updated
B4 <8> updated
B5 <15>
B6 <RD>
BRM P160C @ 1972
C1 <9> updated
C3 <8> updated
C5 <6> updated
C6 <4> updated
BRM P160D @ 1973
D1 <6> Actually a new car
D3 <R> updated
D4 <R*> updated
BRM P160E @ 1973
E1 <11> updated
E3 <5> updated
E5 <16> {1974} updated
E7 <4>
E8 <5>
E9 <5> {1974}
E10 <9> {1974}
BRM P180 @ 1972
1 <R>
2 <8>
BRM P201 @ 1974
1 <2>
2 <9> {1975}
3 <10>
4 <9>
5 <13> {1975}
BRM P201B @ 1977
B4 <15> updated
BRM P207 @ 1977
1 <R>
BRP 1 @ 1963
BRP-1-63 <4>
BRP 2 @ 1964
BRP-2-64 <5>
BRP-3-64 <6>
Bugatti 251 @ 1956
251001 <R>
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C
Caterham CT01 @ 2012
2 <11>
3 <13>
Caterham CT03 @ 2013
04 <14>
05 <15>
06 <14>
Caterham CT05 @ 2014
01 <11>
02 <13>
03 <13>
04 <15>
Coloni FC187 @ 1987
1 <R>
Coloni 188FC @ 1988
1 <11>
2 <8>
Coloni C3 @ 1989
1 <R>
2 <R>
Coloni FC188B @ 1989
B1 <R>
B2 <R>
Connaught A @ 1952
A1 <13> {1953}
A3 <9>
A4 <4>
A5 <5>
A6 <NC> {1954}
A7 <R> {1953}
A8 <7> {1953}
AL9 <11> {1954}
AL10 <R> {1954}
Connaught B @ 1955
B1 <R> {1956}
B2 <R>
B3 <4> {1957}
B4 <R>
B5 <4> {1956}
B6 <R> {1956}
B7 <3> {1956}
Connaught C @ 1959
C8 <R*>
Connew PC1 @ 1972
002(B) <R>
Cooper MkIV-12 @ 1950
N/A <R*>
Cooper 20 @ 1952
CB/1/52 <7>
CB/2/52 <5>
CB/3/52 <8>
CB/4/52 <3>
CB/5/52 <R> {1953}
CB/6/52 <9>
Cooper 23 @ 1953
CB/1/53 <8>
CB/3/53 <11>
CB/4/53 <11>
CB/6/53 <7>
CB/7/53 ? <12> Ex 23-Alfa Romeo
CB/11/53 <NC> {1954}
Cooper Alta Spl. @ 1953
"1" <R>
CA/3/53 <6>
CB/10/53 <R> {1954} Or 20, or 23 Alta
Cooper 24 @ 1953
CA/1/53 ? <9>
Cooper 40 @ 1955
CB/1/55 <R> Ex Cooper 39 - Cl. 1.5 bobtail
Cooper 41 @ 1957
FII-2-56 <R>
Cooper 43 @ 1957
FII-3-57 <7>
FII-5-57 <6>
FII-7-57 <R>
FII-8-57 <5>
FII-11-57 <15 NC>
FII-23-57 <13>
Cooper 43 @ 1958
FII-12-57 <1>
FII-15-57 <R>
FII-16-57 <R>
FII-26-57 <7>
FII-29-57 <R>
Cooper 44 @ 1957
FII-21-57 <6>
Cooper 45 @ 1958
FII-30-57 ? <3>
FII-31-57 <5>
FII-2-58 <R> {1959}
FII-3-58 <8>
FII-4-58 <14 NC>
FII-5-58 <2>
FII-9-58 <1>
FII-10-58 <R*>
FII-15-58 ? <6x> {1959}
FII-17-58 <12> {1959}
FII-18-58 <15 NC>
FII-22-58 <4>
FII-23-58 <8>
FII-23a-58 <3> {1959}
Cooper 51 @ 1959
N/A <11>
N/A <13> {1960}
FII-7a-57 <2>
FII-16a-57 <8>
FII-1-59 <6> {1960}
FII-2-59 <7> {1960}
FII-4-59 <3>
FII-6-59 <R*> {1960}
FII-7-59 <1> {1960}
FII-12-59 <9> {1960}
FII-13-59 <4> {1960}
FII-17-59 <R>
FII-19-59 <1>
FII-24-59 <2> {1960}
FII-25-59 <R> {1960}
FII-26-59 <4> {1960}
FII-27-59 <1>
FII-2-60 <4> {1960}
FII-6-60 <10> {1960}
FII-10-60 <8> {1960}
FII-13-60 <R> {1960}
FII-14-60 <11> {1960}
FII-16-60 <12> {1963}
Cooper 53 @ 1960
FII-5-60 <2>
FII-8-60 <1>
F1-1-61 <5> {1961}
F1-2-61 <6> {1961}
F1-3-61 <10> {1961}
F1-6-61 <4> {1961}
F1-9-61 <R> {1961}
F1-13-61 <8> {1961}
F1-14-61 <8> {1961}
F1-15-61 <10> {1961}
F1-16-61 <R*> {1961}
VR <R> {1961}
Cooper 55 @ 1961
F1-10-61 <4>
F1-11-61 <3>
Cooper 58 @ 1961
F1-12-61 <R>
Cooper 59 @ 1962
Aiden <11>
Cooper 60 @ 1962
F1-17-61 <1>
F1-18-61 <2>
Cooper 66 @ 1963
F1-2-63 <5>
F1-4-63 <2>
F1-5-63 <3-> 2>
F1-6-63 <3>
Cooper 73 @ 1964
F1-1-64 <2>
F1-2-64 <6>
F1-3-64 <14>
Cooper 77 @ 1965
F1-1-65 <4>
F1-2-65 <3>
Cooper 79 @ 1967
FL-1-65 <2>
Cooper 81 @ 1966
F1-2-66 <4>
F1-3-66 <2>
F1-4-66 <9>
F1-5-66 <6>
F1-6-66 <1>
F1-7-66 <8>
Cooper 81B @ 1967
F1-1-67 <4>
Cooper 86 @ 1967
F1-2-67 <4>
Cooper 86B @ 1968
F1-1-68 <3>
F1-2-68 <4>
F1-4-68 <4>
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#49
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D
Dallara F188 @ 1988
1 <R>
1 <8> F188-1 is a new car in Canada
2 <R*>
3 <7>
Dallara BMS189 @ 1989
4 <10-> 9>
5 <6>
6 <4>
7 <3>
8 <7>
9 <7>
Dallara BMS190 @ 1990
11 <14>
12 <R>
14 <13>
15 <10>
16 <10>
Dallara B191 @ 1991
18 <12>
19 <7>
20 <3>
21 <6>
22 <8>
23 <R*>
Dallara B192 @ 1992
24 <11x>
25 <7>
26 <6>
27 <8>
28 <11>
De Tomaso F2-'59 @ 1959
F2-001 <R>
De Tomaso F1-'61 @ 1961
F1-001 <R>
F1-002 <R>
F1-003 <R>
F1-004 <R>
De Tomaso 505 @ 1970
38/1 <R*>
38/2 [38/3] <11 NC>
38/3 [38/2] <R>
Derrington-Francis @ 1964
Ex-ATS 100-02 <R> different name New space frame & body, ATS engine & parts
#50
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E
Eagle 1F @ 1966
AAR-101 <5>
Eagle 1G @ 1966
AAR-102 <R>
AAR-103 <3> {1967}
AAR-104 <1> {1967}
Emeryson @ 1956
N/A <R>
Emeryson MkII @ 1962
1004 <11>
Emeryson MkIII @ 1962
1006 <10 NC>
EMW R1/52 @ 1953
N/A <R> EMW is new name for DAMW later AWE and IFA-Rennkollektiv
ENB @ 1962
1001 <16> Last years Emeryson rebuilt
Ensign N173 @ 1973
MN01 <13>
Ensign N174 @ 1976
MN02 <8>
Ensign N175 @ 1975
MN04 <6> Also raced as Boro
Ensign N176 @ 1976
MN05 <5>
MN05-2 <10>
Ensign N177 @ 1977
MN06 <6>
MN07 <5>
MN08 <5>
Ensign N179 @ 1979
MN09 <13> MN010 was an N179, never completed
Ensign N180 @ 1980
MN11 <9>
MN12 <12>
MN14 <14>
Ensign N180B @ 1981
MN15 <6> renumbered MN15 = MN14 rebodied and renumbered
Ensign N181 @ 1982
MN16 <8> Later as Theodore
ERA A @ 1950
R4A <6>
ERA B @ 1950
R14B <6>
ERA C @ 1950
R8C/D <7> Still "R8D", later rebuilt on previous R8C chassis
ERA E @ 1950
GP1 <R>
GP2 <R>
ERA G @ 1952
R1G <R>
EuroBrun ER188 @ 1988
1 <13>
2 <13>
3 <11>
EuroBrun ER189 @ 1990
2 <13>