The Sprint; after the 3rd… yes or no? (And ideas for tweaks)

Edited by SilverArrow31, 13 November 2021 - 20:22.

No. It makes a mockery of the most exciting session of the weekend and the races are too short to provide any kind of strategy battle. The only saving grace today was Lewis starting last and cutting through the field in a much faster car than anything bar the top two.

Back to normal in 2022 please.

There's no point to it. And never will.

No!

(Do we need another thread for this?)

No for me, I don't see a way to make it work either.

I believe a reverse grid for sprint with partial impact on points could be an option. Keep the "qualifying" as deciding event for start grid of race and the sprint.

Give points for sprint but only best three sprint results count for point consideration maybe?

Yes. Good racing. Adds a lot imo.

Yes. Good racing. Adds a lot imo.

Take away Hamilton though and what would we have been watching?

Take away Hamilton though and what would we have been watching?

I don't understand why many Drivers give it a thumbs up (PR?).

Max said it was all about the start (proven today) and the Format needs some tweaks.. Parc Fermé among one of the issues. 

But, yes.. it's 'fun' wetting one pants seeing Lewis gong from P144 to P5..

I believe a reverse grid for sprint with partial impact on points could be an option. Keep the "qualifying" as deciding event for start grid of race and the sprint.

Give points for sprint but only best three sprint results count for point consideration maybe?

Yes. 
But.
Friday Q: Top 10 get reserved grid spots for Sunday race
Sprint start with top 10 Q in reverse order, rest in Q order
      Points 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Grid positions >10 for Sunday according to the finishing order of those who did not have a reserved grid spot.

Edited by Singularity, 13 November 2021 - 20:34.

I hate it but it is staying so need improve it, its too short IMO needs to be 40% of a GP distance at least so tyre wear is a factor

Edited by Brawn BGP 001, 13 November 2021 - 20:33.

Idea for tweak:

Make the sprint a proper race and give proper points. Don't call it a bloody pole. 

Might want to do reverse grid if next year's cars are easy to overtake. 

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 13 November 2021 - 20:36.

Completely unnecessary. Still a big no.

No.

No, unless we start seeing sprint tyres that are deliberately outside the spec window of the race tyres for some spicy racing.

But at that point it's Mariokart. 

Frankly I'd rather see the Sprint Races in identical GP2 cars painted in F1 team colours (to appease sponsors) and see them save the Grand Prix cars for the main event on Sunday. 

A definite no. But it's useless to resist, because Crypto.com is paying 100 million dollars for it. I just wish F1 was led by people who don't care about the money but about the sport.

It's useless trash. Feels like we now have a 24 hour red flag and the race continues tomorrow.

No. 

Alternative? Given that it's here to stay and is going to be the first of many new gimmicks being introduced, think of an alternative name to 'Formula One'. For me it meant exclusivity, prestige, uniqueness. Having so many races, many at cookie cutter racing circuits with the same sponsors and run off areas, removes the exclusivity. Implementing a mini Grand Prix on Saturday removes the prestige. Following NASCAR down the over saturated, gimmicky road to nothingness removes the uniqueness. It's still cars going around the track, but it stopped being Formula One to me a while back. 

Just my two cents, don't mean to put words into the mouths of others.

NO!!

I still think this is a bad idea but have to admit:

1. for the people at the track, it is waaay better (from my experience of Silverstone) - your 3 day ticket actually gets you 3 days of action

2. all 3 weekends so far have been super

I still think that point 2 is down to luck, and small sample size. But I'm not going to say they were crap, when to me they obviously weren't, just to try and justify my view that this is very likely a bad idea/format.

Make the sprint a proper race and give proper points. Don't call it a bloody pole.

Might want to do reverse grid if next year's cars are easy to overtake.

Edited by cbo, 13 November 2021 - 21:00.

Hard pass. It adds nothing to the show. 

Still no for me.

Today was better than the last one but it still feels artificial. 

I still think this is a bad idea but have to admit:

 

1. for the people at the track, it is waaay better (from my experience of Silverstone) - your 3 day ticket actually gets you 3 days of action

 

My issue with at Silverstone is that is was far too late and having F1 as the last track action of the day and Friday and Saturday meant leaving the tack was a nightmare, I normally stay and watch all the action.

Which of the big teams want this? I was half listening to radio 5 and I *think * they said Red Bull and Merc don't like it but Ferrari do. Anyone got better/more exact info on that?

I say no. I liked the one in Silverstone best, and then when the shine went off with the next ones I feel it really doesnt add much.

Next year they'll be able to pick tyres every race, so even that advantage is gone.

not saying this happened here but what I hadnt noticed till now is that this format certainly encourages to go into grey areas legally. You get an extra 30 % to make up if you get caught.

Yes, you can run an illegal car and be disqualified from qualifying, and still start the Grand Prix from pole position.

Edited by John B, 13 November 2021 - 21:30.