Jeddah T1: who emerges?

I hope stewards would look extremely unfavourably at any culprit who did and give them a 10 place grid drop next / last race

They would never have the balls though, nor would it align with the 'commercial strategy'

Hamilton, beacause the run down towards the first corner is pretty short.

Bottas & Verstappen side by side into Turn 1, that could get hot.

I can see Bottas pushing Verstappen wide & forcing him to cut the first corner

 

Edited by thegamer23, 05 December 2021 - 10:14.

Hamilton stays P1, Max goes outside Bottas into turn one and takes to the runoff

I can see ‘best ever teammate’ Bottas taking out Lewis in the ultimate plot twist.

He’s only got 2 more chances to ever win a race in F1, I reckon he’s going to be out for himself

If Max starts p3 then I reckon an all or nothing move into the lead.

Lots of grip off the line

Why should he even risk to end his race in turn 1? 

If he gets dnf and Hamilton survives the contact he's going to lose the championship.

Edited by thegamer23, 05 December 2021 - 10:52.

Does Max take out Lewis?
Does Bottas take out Max?
Do they all take out each other?!

I doubt anyone is going to deliberately take out anyone else. However, Max is known for forcing overtakes and hard defending, so it's possible that either of the Merc drivers could have an incident with him. Having said that, Bottas is not as fussed about letting Max past as Lewis is.

Why should he even risk to end his race in turn 1? 

If he gets dnf and Hamilton survives the contact he's going to lose the championship.

I don't think Max has yet learned to develop the long game.

I can see ‘best ever teammate’ Bottas taking out Lewis in the ultimate plot twist.

He’s only got 2 more chances to ever win a race in F1, I reckon he’s going to be out for himself

If Bottas were fighting Lewis for the win for the whole race (in contravention to team orders), he might find that his pit stop would be a little slower than desirable.

Edited by pdac, 05 December 2021 - 10:55.

You all forgetting Charles in P4 next to Max.

You all forgetting Charles in P4 next to Max.

Not for long, though.

It is a short run, he has the inside, who knows...

I can see ‘best ever teammate’ Bottas taking out Lewis in the ultimate plot twist.

He’s only got 2 more chances to ever win a race in F1, I reckon he’s going to be out for himself

It would be out of character for Bottas to deliberately disturb Hamilton's championship challenge in such situation.

Also in the past, number 2 drivers who were leaving a top team didn't start to race their team mates more aggressively because of that. I have completely no idea why you think Bottas will be a different case.

Edited by Anderis, 05 December 2021 - 11:19.

T5 worries me more...

I can see ‘best ever teammate’ Bottas taking out Lewis in the ultimate plot twist.

He’s only got 2 more chances to ever win a race in F1, I reckon he’s going to be out for himself

More like Bottas will take Max out. But Max isn't stupid after Hungary. He won't risk it knowing that recently Merc has been really desperate throwing extreme moves

such as?

I can see ‘best ever teammate’ Bottas taking out Lewis in the ultimate plot twist.

He’s only got 2 more chances to ever win a race in F1, I reckon he’s going to be out for himself

Posts like this drive me mad. Bottas isn’t stupid.

It would be out of character for Bottas to deliberately disturb Hamilton's championship challenge in such situation.

Also in the past, number 2 drivers who were leaving a top team didn't start to race their team mates more aggressively because of that. I have completely no idea why you think Bottas will be a different case.

Why should he even risk to end his race in turn 1? 

If he gets dnf and Hamilton survives the contact he's going to lose the championship.

Because Max isn't very bright?  As he showed us yesterday.

*Prost*

More than 30 years ago and I would hesitate calling a multiple WDC a number 2 driver.

Because Max isn't very bright?  As he showed us yesterday.

He may have learnt something from yesterday, though.

Edited by mcjohnson, 05 December 2021 - 12:20.

I'm still with Bottas winning this on merit keeping it clean. 

Hamilton stays P1, Max goes outside Bottas into turn one and takes to the runoff

This and LEC comes into play.  LEC and VER have flashbacks to karting and the lesser formulae and go into red-mist meltdown.  Lewis wins and VER comes in 4th or 5th.  

Meds still kicking in.      

Because Max isn't very bright?  As he showed us yesterday.

Pathetic. 

I think Bottas should 'get his elbows out'. He is a quick qualifier but in the races I think has been a little too clean and going to a midfield team he will need to drive more on the acceptable limit to make an impact. So I'd like to see Bottas V4.0 as a hard driver - He's always had the speed.

Sadly I think he'll be passed on t1 though as if Max comes in hard he will probably back out rather than take the risk of an accident.

Bottas goes durrr...which one was the brake pedal...not that one...oopsie daisy! Hyuck hyuck! and takes both Max and Lewis out.

Perez wins.

Edited by Ruusperi, 05 December 2021 - 14:30.

He may have learnt something from yesterday, though.

Not sure - based on his comments, he seemed to think that pushing the final corner at 10 tenths was the right approach when he was already 3 tenths up, and that what happened was just "one of those things".  I really think that Horner and Marko don't help their #1 drivers by preventing them from being confronted with the idea that some things are their fault.

Edited by cpbell, 05 December 2021 - 16:41.

Bottas goes durrr...which one was the brake pedal...not that one...oopsie daisy! Hyuck hyuck! and takes both Max and Lewis out.

Perez wins.

Funnily enough I've just put a little bet on Perez for pretty much the reason you gave (maybe not the dur bit though...). I can see there being a collision between the two title contenders with Bottas falling away during the race.