Bring Back V10s podcast

Anyone been listening to the latest run?

Ted Kravitz as one of the guests on the latest episode where they discuss Imola 2005

It’s been a brilliant series, really hope it continues for many years to come.

Yep, my favourite podcast series. The only thing that annoyed me, in the recent Canada 2008 one they barely mentioned DC's podium!    

 

Started at just the right time too, as the lockdowns were kicking in. Genuinely was the only thing I was looking forward to in Jan-March last year.

 

They have a strong calibre of guest, and revisit certain events in great detail. I think Herbert's one about Lotus in '94 may be my favourite.

It's really, really good. 

 

The only (very slight) thing that I'd remark them for is that they have a too narrow time frame. It should just be "Bring back old F1" or something and then be free to chose stories from whatever past era of F1 they see fit.

Love the show, quickly become one of my favourite podcasts and the shorter series format always leaves me wanting more. 

 

My only criticism of the current series is it's felt like  they've lent more towards race-specific episodes rather than the broader topics of the earlier series; just my personal preference but I like it being a bit more of a balance, but I guess the race-specific ones are a bit more contained and are potentially a little easier to research. Would love more episodes on specific teams or drivers, especially the backmarkers.

 

That said as soon as it pops into my feed I get it queued up - looking forward to listening to the latest one in the car home. 

It's really, really good. 

 

The only (very slight) thing that I'd remark them for is that they have a too narrow time frame. It should just be "Bring back old F1" or something and then be free to chose stories from whatever past era of F1 they see fit.

 

It would indeed be good to hear them go back further while the people who were there are still with us.

 

And Edd Straw can talk, can't he??

The only (very slight) thing that I'd remark them for is that they have a too narrow time frame. It should just be "Bring back old F1" or something and then be free to chose stories from whatever past era of F1 they see fit.

 

It's because the host is in his mid/late 30's so this era is exactly when he started his interest, so it's a delight to be able to dig deeply into these topics with the benefit of few decades knowledge and context. I remember when the first episode came out and I thought "corrrr, this is niche". I assumed it wouldn't get past 1 series. Delighted to have been proved wrong. 

Big big fan of the show. I am a podcast editor. So, that I want to listen to a podcast in my downtime after I’m done work is the sign of a great great show. I’m even a member of their membership. My only complaint is that it’s too long in between seasons.

Here's a link 

 

• https://www.spreaker...ssic-f1-stories

It's because the host is in his mid/late 30's so this era is exactly when he started his interest, so it's a delight to be able to dig deeply into these topics with the benefit of few decades knowledge and context. I remember when the first episode came out and I thought "corrrr, this is niche". I assumed it wouldn't get past 1 series. Delighted to have been proved wrong. 

 

It's essentially a platform for Glenn to wax lyrical about Jacques Villeneuve in front of an audience. 

 

They do stray into other eras, as evidenced by the Canada 08 episode from the latest run. I'm also guessing they don't want to stray too far back as they usually want to have at least one guest who was an active participant or reporter during the events and if they go beyond the 80s turbo era I imagine it is difficult to find someone who still has the energy to do a full podcast. But sprinkling in a few Bring Back Rocket Fuel Turbos (to set them apart from the current ones) like they do with Bring Back V8s would be appreciated.

Love the series! 

 

I'd like to see a podcast called 'Bring Back 9 Points', though.  

Edited by lustigson, 03 March 2022 - 19:29.

I love it, it’s probably my favourite podcast bar none. I didn’t think this week’s was the best of them but I look forward to it every week when it’s on a run. The end of season Q&A episodes might even be my favourite ones. This is my era too, so although I’m not quite as into Jacques Villeneuve as Glenn Freeman is, I completely get the focus on this era particularly the mid-late 1990s when F1 was just magical. There’s so much good material that they haven’t covered yet too -

Stewart’s first season in 1997
Hakkinen v Schumacher at Suzuka ‘98
The falling out between Frentzen and Jordan in 2001
The failure of Jaguar Racing (and Prost)
Schumacher being edged out of the door by Ferrari in 2005-6


Etc etc etc etc. roll on the next series. One thing though - last week (Prost 1997 episode) they all said they thought 1998 was a terrible season, and I found that shocking! I loved 1998. It wasn’t as random as ‘97 but that good, clean Schumacher-Hakkinen title fight was a classic IMO.

Edited by messy, 04 March 2022 - 09:43.

I love it, it’s probably my favourite podcast bar none. I didn’t think this week’s was the best of them but I look forward to it every week when it’s on a run. The end of season Q&A episodes might even be my favourite ones. This is my era too, so although I’m not quite as into Jacques Villeneuve as Glenn Freeman is, I completely get the focus on this era particularly the mid-late 1990s when F1 was just magical. There’s so much good material that they haven’t covered yet too -

Stewart’s first season in 1997
Hakkinen v Schumacher at Suzuka ‘98
The falling out between Frentzen and Jordan in 2001
The failure of Jaguar Racing (and Prost)
Schumacher being edged out of the door by Ferrari in 2005-6


Etc etc etc etc. roll on the next series. One thing though - last week (Prost 1997 episode) they all said they thought 1998 was a terrible season, and I found that shocking! I loved 1998. It wasn’t as random as ‘97 but that good, clean Schumacher-Hakkinen title fight was a classic IMO.

 

 

In essence the 1998 season showed great parallels with 2009. One team being the absolute best and the other(s) trying to catch up. The 1998 season never was exciting as Schumacher never led the championship. In that light I do understand where they are coming from. It wasnt the most thrilling season ever. But it was and still is one to be remembered.

In essence the 1998 season showed great parallels with 2009. One team being the absolute best and the other(s) trying to catch up. The 1998 season never was exciting as Schumacher never led the championship. In that light I do understand where they are coming from. It wasnt the most thrilling season ever. But it was and still is one to be remembered.

1997 just had a perfect blend of circumstances and competitiveness - through the whole season - that 1998 couldn't get near. Through 1997 Williams were losing their advantage, Ferrari were coming on strong, McLaren was a rocket in the second half... whilst Benetton, Prost, Jordan and Arrows(!!) all had strong race weekends where they won, or had race winning form. It just made for a classic season and 1998 was never going to live up to that, you knew that when McLaren lapped the field in Melbourne!

Edited by PlayboyRacer, 04 March 2022 - 12:40.

I just think I’m emotionally connected to 1998 because it was my first full season watching the sport. I certainly don’t think it was a bad year though and there were some good races. Schumacher’s ‘man possessed’ approach to beating the McLarens really captured my imagination and although he never outright led the championship, he did tie Hakkinen 80-80 with two races to go. There were still some giantkilling performances too, Fisichella should have won in Canada and were it not for Coulthard brilliantly protecting his team-mate in the closing laps, Villeneuve could have won at Hockenheim, not to mention Hill winning at Spa. The Benetton especially wasn’t a million miles off the McLaren/Ferrari in the early stages of the year.

Also, I think it gets slightly lost in stuff like Bring Back V10s because it was in between two much more outwardly exciting/random seasons in ‘97 and ‘99. I’d like to see more about it. There were some really interesting stories running through it - the first “real” season of Prost proving such a disappointment, the end of Tyrrell and the fall-out between Ken and the new management, the Williams decline, Spa….

Anyway I’m going OT.

I just think I’m emotionally connected to 1998 because it was my first full season watching the sport. I certainly don’t think it was a bad year though and there were some good races. Schumacher’s ‘man possessed’ approach to beating the McLarens really captured my imagination and although he never outright led the championship, he did tie Hakkinen 80-80 with two races to go. There were still some giantkilling performances too, Fisichella should have won in Canada and were it not for Coulthard brilliantly protecting his team-mate in the closing laps, Villeneuve could have won at Hockenheim, not to mention Hill winning at Spa. The Benetton especially wasn’t a million miles off the McLaren/Ferrari in the early stages of the year.

Also, I think it gets slightly lost in stuff like Bring Back V10s because it was in between two much more outwardly exciting/random seasons in ‘97 and ‘99. I’d like to see more about it. There were some really interesting stories running through it - the first “real” season of Prost proving such a disappointment, the end of Tyrrell and the fall-out between Ken and the new management, the Williams decline, Spa….

Anyway I’m going OT.

Yeah, 1998 was my first season too and it holds a special place for me, possibly/probably for that reason. I went from knowing nothing of F1 to being a total fanatic in such a short space of time. I remember cutting articles out of the Saturday newspapers and keeping a scrap book (don’t judge, I was 14!)

What’s mental, is that 24 years later (sick emoji!) I can picture every teams livery & name their driver line-up

I can’t even do that for seasons a few years back, but I can do it for 98

Loved it. Always will.

Yeah, 1998 was my first season too and it holds a special place for me, possibly/probably for that reason. I went from knowing nothing of F1 to being a total fanatic in such a short space of time. I remember cutting articles out of the Saturday newspapers and keeping a scrap book (don’t judge, I was 14!)
What’s mental, is that 24 years later (sick emoji!) I can picture every teams livery & name their driver line-up
I can’t even do that for seasons a few years back, but I can do it for 98
Loved it. Always will.

I think you might be my long lost twin. Ditto. I could probably tell you just about every top six result and every driver’s car number. I caught the qualifying session for the Argentine GP one Saturday when channel hopping and from that moment on I was in love with it completely, head over heels.

I remember walking (!!) down to WHSmith on a Saturday morning so excited to get the latest F1Racing mag. Even if it was pouring with rain. And I’d read it from cover to cover. Check teletext every day for F1 news, and it was just brilliant. Even with all the coverage/social media we have these days, nothing beats 98 for me - and that night getting up in the middle of the night to watch Suzuka, probably my best ever F1 memory. Schumacher with his special edition helmet, starting at the back of the grid…. And then ITV coming back from a break to Schumacher stood on the wall watching Mika win his first WDC. Glorious.

I’m sure Suzuka used to be in the proper middle of the night too… but it’s maybe just my memory playing tricks. The off season was excruciatingly long back then too… I remember getting the season review on VHS and I watched it so many times. The days before youtube!

I wasn’t a fan in 1997, but I found a book in the school library about the 97 season and F1 books were so rare for me to see back then… it fell into my school bag and became my book. 1997 looked an amazing season too.

I have a huge soft spot for 1998 too, whilst I started watching in 1997, 1998 is the year I remember fully, also Grand Prix 3 helps cement that year to my love of F1.

 

This podcast is my favourite one to listen to, admittedly the latest one wasn't my favourite episode, might be because i'm a little fatigued with Ted since he joined Sky.

 

I will say I actually enjoy the episodes the most when they focus on a specific topic more than just a race weekend, but nonetheless they're all good listens. 

I remember walking (!!) down to WHSmith on a Saturday morning so excited to get the latest F1Racing mag. Even if it was pouring with rain. And I’d read it from cover to cover. Check teletext every day for F1 news, and it was just brilliant. Even with all the coverage/social media we have these days, nothing beats 98 for me - and that night getting up in the middle of the night to watch Suzuka, probably my best ever F1 memory. Schumacher with his special edition helmet, starting at the back of the grid…. And then ITV coming back from a break to Schumacher stood on the wall watching Mika win his first WDC. Glorious.
I’m sure Suzuka used to be in the proper middle of the night too… but it’s maybe just my memory playing tricks. The off season was excruciatingly long back then too… I remember getting the season review on VHS and I watched it so many times. The days before youtube!
I wasn’t a fan in 1997, but I found a book in the school library about the 97 season and F1 books were so rare for me to see back then… it fell into my school bag and became my book. 1997 looked an amazing season too.

Yep absolutely sums everything up that I remember from that era. Setting my alarm, dragging myself out of bed and going downstairs to watch that Japanese GP, I still remember battling to keep my eyes open, making myself some toast and the dog looking really confused about why I was there. When something big happened I was desperate to tell someone about it but nobody was up watching it with me! At the time I really wanted Schumacher to win the title because he was the underdog, in hindsight very glad Mika won it. The only thing that tops the excitement of that was maybe getting up to watch the 1999 Australian GP live especially when it proved so unpredictable.

The magazines and the games were completely tied in, I’d spend most of my free time reading F1 Racing, watching the Duke video season reviews (caught up on ‘97 that off-season to ease the pain of waiting for ‘99 to begin) and collecting books about the sport. Actually fired up my Dreamcast the other day to play F1 World Grand Prix which was based on the 1998 season and it still holds up pretty well today.

With all due apologies to my wife, F1 was certainly that first love that I still get bleary eyed thinking about so many years on. The intensity of that feeling, I think you only get when you’re young and discovering something that’s going to prove really significant in your life.

On Bring Back V10s, I agree with Jellyfishcake - the last episode fell flat and Ted Kravitz was a bit annoying (when did he get so posh?!). I don’t really remember that race being a particular thriller, much as Alonso holding off Schumacher was fairly tense. I do think some of their selections this series have felt a bit strange. But I absolutely love the podcast.

Edited by messy, 04 March 2022 - 23:09.

I just think I’m emotionally connected to 1998 because it was my first full season watching the sport. I certainly don’t think it was a bad year though and there were some good races. Schumacher’s ‘man possessed’ approach to beating the McLarens really captured my imagination and although he never outright led the championship, he did tie Hakkinen 80-80 with two races to go. There were still some giantkilling performances too, Fisichella should have won in Canada and were it not for Coulthard brilliantly protecting his team-mate in the closing laps, Villeneuve could have won at Hockenheim, not to mention Hill winning at Spa. The Benetton especially wasn’t a million miles off the McLaren/Ferrari in the early stages of the year.

Also, I think it gets slightly lost in stuff like Bring Back V10s because it was in between two much more outwardly exciting/random seasons in ‘97 and ‘99. I’d like to see more about it. There were some really interesting stories running through it - the first “real” season of Prost proving such a disappointment, the end of Tyrrell and the fall-out between Ken and the new management, the Williams decline, Spa….

Anyway I’m going OT.

No I agree, 1998 was a good season. As it unfolded it became more interesting, there was drama (e.g Silverstone, Spa) and there were some brilliant individual performances. Throw in the epic title duel and I enjoyed it. But I guess in direct comparison with '97, there was too big a gap between McLaren/Ferrari and the rest, for it to be truly wild. And '97 was pretty wild.

Oh and Bring back V10's is awesome. The next one will be great, Mexico 1990. A classic.

Edited by PlayboyRacer, 04 March 2022 - 23:19.

Yep absolutely sums everything up that I remember from that era. Setting my alarm, dragging myself out of bed and going downstairs to watch that Japanese GP, I still remember battling to keep my eyes open, making myself some toast and the dog looking really confused about why I was there. When something big happened I was desperate to tell someone about it but nobody was up watching it with me! At the time I really wanted Schumacher to win the title because he was the underdog, in hindsight very glad Mika won it. The only thing that tops the excitement of that was maybe getting up to watch the 1999 Australian GP live especially when it proved so unpredictable.

The magazines and the games were completely tied in, I’d spend most of my free time reading F1 Racing, watching the Duke video season reviews (caught up on ‘97 that off-season to ease the pain of waiting for ‘99 to begin) and collecting books about the sport. Actually fired up my Dreamcast the other day to play F1 World Grand Prix which was based on the 1998 season and it still holds up pretty well today.

With all due apologies to my wife, F1 was certainly that first love that I still get bleary eyed thinking about so many years on. The intensity of that feeling, I think you only get when you’re young and discovering something that’s going to prove really significant in your life.

On Bring Back V10s, I agree with Jellyfishcake - the last episode fell flat and Ted Kravitz was a bit annoying (when did he get so posh?!). I don’t really remember that race being a particular thriller, much as Alonso holding off Schumacher was fairly tense. I do think some of their selections this series have felt a bit strange. But I absolutely love the podcast.

I've allways found it amusing that had Kimi not had a technical failure, that Alonso - Schumacher battle would have been for a distant second and the race would likely barely ever get a mention...

I've allways found it amusing that had Kimi not had a technical failure, that Alonso - Schumacher battle would have been for a distant second and the race would likely barely ever get a mention...

Indeed; in retrospect the most significant thing about this race is that it marked the first use of the inerter (J-damper) in F1, by McLaren.

On Bring Back V10s, I agree with Jellyfishcake - the last episode fell flat and Ted Kravitz was a bit annoying (when did he get so posh?!).

Either he has a telephone voice or Theodore Slotover un-poshes himself for his barking TV persona.

Anyway I enjoyed the episode, there were some fun reminiscences about the sick feeling they had within ITV's production team when they realized they'd screwed up the ad breaks. That's what I want to hear! I remember teenage me making mental note of the brands that appeared in that final ad break so I could not buy any of their products. Admittedly they were almost all car adverts so my boycott wouldn't have had much impact.

Adding to the 98 love; whenever I hear my favourite game by the cardigans it takes me back to the end of season montage with Hakkinen losing it coming out of Bridge in the rain.

Adding to the 98 love; whenever I hear my favourite game by the cardigans it takes me back to the end of season montage with Hakkinen losing it coming out of Bridge in the rain.

And Villeneuve smashing some plastic cups.

Adding to the 98 love; whenever I hear my favourite game by the cardigans it takes me back to the end of season montage with Hakkinen losing it coming out of Bridge in the rain.

Same!! Haha

Very Very underrated podcast. My most recent listening to this was Alonso's wins at Imola 2005, and 1994 German GP, and Michael's move to Ferrari. 

 

The last one was really deep. I had no idea Michael knew how much that needs to be done within the team. Really breathtaking. 

New series launched today

First episode looks into the 1996 Damon Hill sacking by Williams

Man, I'm just now hearing about this podcast but it is 100% right up my alley as someone who also first started watching the races live in 1998 and attended his first race in person in '99. Between WTF1, the BBC Chequered Flag, and now this, I can pretty much just consume F1 content while driving or riding my bike. 

Didn't realise the next series was about to start. Made my day!!

Thanks for the heads up. I’ve been checking their podcasts on and off the past weeks. They are indeed good with their research and insights.

New series launched today

First episode looks into the 1996 Damon Hill sacking by Williams

 

Oh sounds good! Does it feature Andrew Benson, who broke the story?

Yes Andrew is in this podcast, I’m listening him speaking right now.

Oh sounds good! Does it feature Andrew Benson, who broke the story?

Yep, quite a bit of info first-hand on breaking the story, and the aftermath/interactions with Damon.

Man, I'm just now hearing about this podcast but it is 100% right up my alley as someone who also first started watching the races live in 1998 and attended his first race in person in '99. Between WTF1, the BBC Chequered Flag, and now this, I can pretty much just consume F1 content while driving or riding my bike.

 

But should you!
 

It's essentially a platform for Glenn to wax lyrical about Jacques Villeneuve in front of an audience.

Where does one sign up 😍

I remember walking (!!) down to WHSmith on a Saturday morning so excited to get the latest F1Racing mag. Even if it was pouring with rain. And I’d read it from cover to cover. Check teletext every day for F1 news, and it was just brilliant. Even with all the coverage/social media we have these days, nothing beats 98 for me - and that night getting up in the middle of the night to watch Suzuka, probably my best ever F1 memory. Schumacher with his special edition helmet, starting at the back of the grid…. And then ITV coming back from a break to Schumacher stood on the wall watching Mika win his first WDC. Glorious.

I’m sure Suzuka used to be in the proper middle of the night too… but it’s maybe just my memory playing tricks. The off season was excruciatingly long back then too… I remember getting the season review on VHS and I watched it so many times. The days before youtube!

I wasn’t a fan in 1997, but I found a book in the school library about the 97 season and F1 books were so rare for me to see back then… it fell into my school bag and became my book. 1997 looked an amazing season too.

Page 360 on BBC1?

Really good episode.

Also makes me misty-eyed for the simpler times when everything you knew about F1 came from Autosport, once a week.

Really good episode.
Also makes me misty-eyed for the simpler times when everything you knew about F1 came from Autosport, once a week.

Everything I know about F1 comes from this forum

This is a good podcast. Makes my commute much more fun.

Really good episode.

Also makes me misty-eyed for the simpler times when everything you knew about F1 came from Autosport, once a week.

What? Your Dad would buy you a weekly Autosport? Some of us had to wait for "Motor Racing" a month in arrears (every GP just missed the print deadline), and a single blurred photo taken from a grandstand in Argentina.

Yes Andrew is in this podcast, I’m listening him speaking right now.

I realise that Benson will never disclose the source of his information, but listening to it all, it seems very obvious who the source was.

 

And that source continues to be a major active figure in the sport to this day,

Everything I know about F1 comes from this forum

Holy schitt. Please tell me your joking!!!!

Jp

I realise that Benson will never disclose the source of his information, but listening to it all, it seems very obvious who the source was.

 

And that source continues to be a major active figure in the sport to this day,

 

Toto Wolff? 

Holy schitt. Please tell me your joking!!!!

Jp

 

I was exaggerating, but only slightly

Toto Wolff? 

No, Lando Norris.

In the nineties I had a work colleague who was also an open wheel racing aficionado.  I would tape the F1 and CART races for him so he could watch them after his kids were asleep.  In 1997 we both used to joke about "poor Heinz-Herald" since it seemed like that's how they always referred to him in the F1 broadcasts that year.  We were both Damon Hill fans.

I’m sure Suzuka used to be in the proper middle of the night too… but it’s maybe just my memory playing tricks. The off season was excruciatingly long back then too… I remember getting the season review on VHS and I watched it so many times. The days before youtube!

Feels like it used to be 4 or 5am race start rather than the 6am it became from 2000ish?

Feels like it used to be 4 or 5am race start rather than the 6am it became from 2000ish?

 

Japan doesn't use DST so when the race was held after Europe has DST ending it started an hour earlier even if it started on the same time locally.

I realise that Benson will never disclose the source of his information, but listening to it all, it seems very obvious who the source was.

 

 

Who do you think? Bernie? Frank Williams? Patrick Head? Frentzen's manager?