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#1 koepchenfan

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 11:29

Hello,

GS Tuning was one of the well known BMW tuning firm of the 70's, but there are not many facts known about this small tuning firm / aftermarket tuning shop.

May I ask some help about these answers, please ?

- When the GS Tuning company started ? I guess it was around 1969, or 1971.
- When the GS Tuning firm was closed ?
- Why is it closed ? The last GS tuned cars or race cars I have seen it periodic media is from 1980, but after that I haven't seen any new car.
- Hans Heyer was one of the favorite driver of Gerhard Schneider. Are there any reason why ?
- Gerhard Schneider also prepared one (or more ?) Lancia for the touring car races. Why did he prepared an Lancia, when he has a BMW tuner ?
- Have you got any personal stories about this tuning firm ?
- Is he still alive ? Do you know any contact to him ?

Thank you !

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#2 koepchenfan

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 09:26

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#3 rhegra

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 10:36

...http://www.dunlop-ti...cm430-38010.pdf
for some answers.
and: www.dasoertliche.de with three different Gerhard Schneider in Freiburg/Breisgau

#4 SpecialKS

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 08:26

Thanks for this !

I'm also interested in old pics from the GS-cars (especially the GS 2002 driven by Dieter BAsche in 1972 and 1973).

I have to look for some old magazines in my cellar. Maybe I can also deliver some old pics.

#5 koepchenfan

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 15:56

Thank you !

#6 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 15:50

GS - BMW 2002
Driver: Ingenieur Dieter Basche
1972


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Henk A. Hazelaar

#7 SpecialKS

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 18:03

Thanks for this great picture.



Here a scan from my first ever bought car mag (Sport-Auto 11/1972)

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Hope to find more.

#8 SpecialKS

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:13

Found this at:

http://www.forum-aut...sujet378302.htm

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And I found a test report about a street GS 2002 in an 1973 issue of Sport-Auto with some contemporary information about the GS company. Will scan and post it asap.

#9 koepchenfan

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 18:15

SpecialKS:

Thank you !

#10 SpecialKS

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 20:06

Here we go:


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and as pdf:

http://hosted.filefr...ecialKS/2282161

#11 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 11:18

Albrecht Krebs und Rolf Goring - GS /BMW 2002 - 1971

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Henk A. Hazelaar

#12 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 11:54

Advert GS - BMW Tuning Center
(Sportauto nr. 6 - juni 1971)

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#13 SpecialKS

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:09

Great pics. Thanks a lot.

#14 SpecialKS

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:11

Here some more pics from 1973 - all taken from Sport-Auto.



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More to come!

#15 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:32

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Henk A. Hazelaar

#16 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:37

The Fischer-Technik BMW
Driver: Jorg Denzel
1976

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Henk A. Hazelaar

#17 SpecialKS

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 15:42

Thanks Henk!

Here another test report, taken from Sport-Auto 01/1974:


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pdf-file:

http://hosted.filefr...ecialKS/2282161

#18 SpecialKS

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 18:25

Some more from 1974. Sorry for the bad quality.



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#19 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 12:59

Im Cockpit des GS-BMW 2002
Europas schnellster Mobelwagen

Search: Rallye Racing
Issue 11
November 1974

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Enjoy!

Anyone like a copy (PDF-file), please send me a PM.

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#20 fbarrett

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 16:20

Friends:

All of these photographs and magazine page scans are interesting, but please remember that photographers and publishers likely hold copyrights on most of the images and pages reproduced in this thread. Unless you own the rights to these images, or have the copyright holder's permission to use the material, please see the thread on copyright infringement and post accordingly.

Even if an image is not copyrighted, it is only common courtesy to ask the original photographer or publisher before reproducing it. I've no intention of being a policeman, but having been a photographer, writer, editor, and publisher since the 1960s, I understand all too well what it's like to have my work misappropriated. Kindly read the thread on copyright infringement.

Frank

#21 SpecialKS

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 06:11

Sorry, didn't want to affront anybody. It's just to keep the memory alive.
And in my opinion that's the deeper sense of this Nostalgia Froum.

I'll stop posting another possibly copyrighted stuff.

But I found this (for rFactor simulation) : http://www.virtualr....2-hdr-previews/

http://www.virtualr..../889/2002_5.jpg

It's still WIP but I hope, we all can drive the GS 2002 in the near future.

#22 koepchenfan

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 13:11

Henk A. Hazelaar + SpecialKS:

Thank you!

#23 km1164

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 13:12

I see a blue painted 2002 here with Fischer technic
was this Gustav Fischers company
i have 320i Gp 5 car from him
i need info on him and the car racing in DRM
can you guys help
I will look to start a new thread on this subject
info i have is the car was a dayglo red in colour I have 1 fotio of tehcar
it was raced in 1978 or 9 and was rumoured to be a car built by BMW team for Cheever? crashed at Race 1 in 77 season and Fischer bought the crashed car and built his own car to race from the wreck

#24 eukie

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 18:39

Originally posted by km1164
I see a blue painted 2002 here with Fischer technic
was this Gustav Fischers company
i have 320i Gp 5 car from him
i need info on him and the car racing in DRM
can you guys help
I will look to start a new thread on this subject
info i have is the car was a dayglo red in colour I have 1 fotio of tehcar
it was raced in 1978 or 9 and was rumoured to be a car built by BMW team for Cheever? crashed at Race 1 in 77 season and Fischer bought the crashed car and built his own car to race from the wreck

AFAIK there's no connection between the Fischer Group (www.fischer.de) and Gustav Fischer who raced a BMW as a privateer in the Deutsche Rennsportmeisterschaft. Here's a picture of him and his self-built car (at least the text says so) in 1978:

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source: Sportfahrer 12/1978

#25 km1164

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 15:26

THANKS for this photo :clap:
i will add to the other i have
i have tried to contact this company and fisher transport to see if the gustav they have is my man :confused:
i was also told maybe he had tuning garage
i would like to get more info on the car photos from races internal cockpit photos under the bonnet etc
hope you can assist me in my search

#26 km1164

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 16:44

Hi
i have looked up some the DRM races are for 1978 as it seems he raced the car only 4/5 times this year and i list below the result/ position in Div 2 class & race number for my car

Later in 82 I am informed that Kenneth Leim of Sweden had the car at the silvertsone 6 hour race but DNQ DNA at 3 other races that years but seemed to qualify for Spa 1000 km race but i think event was abandoned

Later the car goes to Scandanavia to race as do 2 or 3 other BMW 320i Gp 5 cars

Today the car is metallic white & has the name on it now of John K Westman but i have not yet googled him but on 10-10 forum i have had a guy with swedish / norwegian saloon car & GT website list some info but no photos yet

I list below events dates results car number and wonder if anyone has more info from euro race magazines any photos

DRM Mainz-Finthen Date: 18.6.1978
4. 76 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland

DRM Zandvoort Date: 2.7.1978
8. - Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland

DRM Kassel-Calden Date: 16.7.1978
6. 74 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Gustav Fischer


DRM Hockenheim Date: 29.7.1978
. 76 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Gustav Fischer


DRM Zolder Date: 20.8.1978

Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland 10 DNF

DRM Norisring Date: 17.9.1978
74 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland 37 DNF



Silverstone 6 hours 16.5.1982

75 Kenneth Leim / S BMW 320i Kenneth Leim 37 Head gasket Gr.5 38. 1:40,620 Kurt Simonsen / S - DND

Spa 1000 km
practise
69 Leim - Simonsen BMW 320 2'49"18
car is colour white sponsor Budweiser Granges Aluminium

#27 km1164

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 11:51

I was looking to find the foto that henk posted of the bmw 2002 fischer technic but it has gone is it possible to repost or send me copy?

i want to find this company fischer technic i try google but i get a plastic moulding company

#28 fines

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 12:05

That's it.

#29 Henk A. Hazelaar

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 13:00

km1164,

Here the foto of the Fischer Technik - BMW 2002

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 19:53

Here are some of my GS Tuning cars in model form.

http://public.fotki....gr2_edited.html

http://public.fotki....w-2002-k39.html

http://public.fotki....2_edited-1.html

http://public.fotki....2_edited-1.html

http://public.fotki....w_warste-1.html

http://public.fotki....w_warste-1.html


Photos of the real cars can be found on this site:

http://www.lisa-raci..._galerie_1.html

#31 SpecialKS

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 18:36

Found another GS BMW - a 3.0 CSL paticipating at the Targa Florio 1973 - here:

http://www.forum-aut...78358-19775.htm


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Interesting. Didn't know that GS also made the 3.0.
Anybody more info?

#32 SpecialKS

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 20:33

same car here:

http://www.forum-aut...78358-20265.htm

(scroll down)

Targa Florio 1973: 35th overall, 1st touring specials, 1st over 2000 cc

#33 koepchenfan

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 22:04

Thanks for the pictures ! I can't add anything new to the pictures.

It is clear that GS tuning made at least two GS 3.0 CSL:

- one white / black 'press' car: http://s250.photobuc...annt-1Kopie.jpg

- and another one, which was a yellow / black one, like all gs 2002 'press' cars. There is a black and white photo about that car in the 1973 BMW GS brochure.

It might happen that the targa florio car is the actually the yellow/black GS 3.0 CSL car made in 1973 at GS.

#34 mfd

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 00:51

Originally posted by AlMark
Photos of the real cars can be found on this site:
http://www.lisa-raci..._galerie_1.html


Anyone help me please - the colour of this car - nachtblau or schwartz
http://www.lisa-raci...rie_6/B2123.jpg