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[potmotr]

Niki Lauda is to be the inaugural guest of a new chat show hosted by Natascha Kampusch, an Austrian girl who was held captive for eight years.
I presume they'll be able to discuss, er, being Austrian and perhaps overcoming adversity.

http://www.puls4.com...tails?id=299819

[Lifew12]

I thought this was another Mosley-style call gril scenario, but alas.....

[barnardferrari]

I'm not sure it's very nice to use "Niki Lauda" and "grilled" together.

[potmotr]

Originally posted by barnardferrari
I'm not sure it's very nice to use "Niki Lauda" and "grilled" together.

Actually, you're right. Sorry, wasn't intentional.

[barnardferrari]

Originally posted by potmotr


Actually, you're right. Sorry, wasn't intentional.

No worries.

[SevenTwoSeven]

Im sure i read (possibly in his biography) that when Lauda returned to the 'ring he stated 'ah - the grill room'. And still has no recollection of the incident whatsoever! And im sure ive seen footage of him at the spot the accident occured at with some other blokes 'finding' an 'ear' of some description!

Morbid, but he seems to take it lightly!

[potmotr]

It does seem quite a weird interview. Even weirder the poor Natasha now has a chat show. Who knows what she'll ask.

[schuey100]

Originally posted by barnardferrari
I'm not sure it's very nice to use "Niki Lauda" and "grilled" together.

That comment made me laugh I'm sure even Niki would offer up a wry smile at that

[Juan Kerr]

Originally posted by barnardferrari
I'm not sure it's very nice to use "Niki Lauda" and "grilled" together.

As for George Foreman well that's just fine !

[David M. Kane]

Actually they had hidden a pig ear in the bushes, so yes it was pretty gross but in good fun. It was organized by Bernie E. and some of the drivers involved that day like Merzario. Niki took the joke very well.

[djned]

she has a chat show?! wtf?!?!?!

[Spunout]

Originally posted by djned
she has a chat show?! wtf?!?!?!

Why not?

[djned]

because she's not a tv presenter?

yes, i know that other people who aren't tv presenters have chat shows, like, you know, tyra banks. but this is a bit more depraved. she was the victim of a horrible crime, she shouldn't be paraded around by a tv network like a circus animal under this pretense.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by djned
because she's not a tv presenter?

yes, i know that other people who aren't tv presenters have chat shows, like, you know, tyra banks. but this is a bit more depraved. she was the victim of a horrible crime, she shouldn't be paraded around by a tv network like a circus animal under this pretense.

Uh, Tyra Banks is model (I think). That´s her profession. Are you suggesting Natascha Kampusch is victim of horrible crime and nothing else? Some time ago, I saw one one her interviews. To me she appeared more smart young gal, and less "circus animal". If Natascha is interested of working on TV, she is entitled to it. Certainly no less than celebs who gained fame by having secret affairs with football stars. Mind you, she has already managed to raise funds for several good causes - including Fritzl family, that suffered in the hands on another psychopath.

Believe it or not, this was her own choice. And making choices is part of normal life she deserves to have. In the very same interview I mentioned, Natascha mentioned being interested of TV and fundraising. Well, here we are. It looks like against all odds somebody has found her dream job.

How many of us ever achieve that?

[djned]

we're arguing different points. whether this is something she wants to do or not (and i don't begrudge her that), the tv network is exploiting her, and that isn't right.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by djned
we're arguing different points. whether this is something she wants to do or not (and i don't begrudge her that), the tv network is exploiting her, and that isn't right.

Of course the TV network wants to make money. But what are they supposed to do? "Sorry, Natascha...we know you´d love to become TV presenter, but it´s going to be no. Because of your past, you cannot get your dream job. That would be, you know, wrong". If NK was completely unware of things and basically incapable of living normal life, I would understand. But she has proven this is not the case at all. Besides, there are topics where - as morbid as this may sound - she can offer unique perspective nobody else has. The Fritzl tragedy is only one example.

[taran]

Originally posted by Spunout


Of course the TV network wants to make money. But what are they supposed to do? "Sorry, Natascha...we know you´d love to become TV presenter, but it´s going to be no. Because of your past, you cannot get your dream job. That would be, you know, wrong". If NK was completely unware of things and basically incapable of living normal life, I would understand. But she has proven this is not the case at all. Besides, there are topics where - as morbid as this may sound - she can offer unique perspective nobody else has. The Fritzl tragedy is only one example.

I understand where you are coming from but I disagree. Famous people getting a talk show is because TV networks hope the 'name' will lure in viewers and with a bit of luck, that person will even be good at it. Otherwise, it will be canceled in a heart beat.

NK is a victim who suffered a horrible ordeal. Unfortunately, 99.9% of her viewers will be watching to see the poor little girl and how messed up she is, kind of like a freak show. Unlike other famous personalities, she doesn't even have fame or a career in something else to fall back on.

If that network was genuine, they should have given her the opportunity to work in TV and get the necessary grounding/experience before giving her a show.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by taran


I understand where you are coming from but I disagree. Famous people getting a talk show is because TV networks hope the 'name' will lure in viewers and with a bit of luck, that person will even be good at it. Otherwise, it will be canceled in a heart beat.

This is called reality. Applies to anybody on TV, including folks who are damn good at their job. Can anybody tell with straight face that Bill O´Reilly is fantastic presenter with intelligent points and vast knowledge? Can anybody suggest Jerry Springer show is quality program? And yet, lots of people watch their shouting contests.

NK is a victim who suffered a horrible ordeal. Unfortunately, 99.9% of her viewers will be watching to see the poor little girl and how messed up she is, kind of like a freak show. Unlike other famous personalities, she doesn't even have fame or a career in something else to fall back on.

You mean like career as "kiss and tell" cheater, or son/daughter of some rich dude?

If that network was genuine, they should have given her the opportunity to work in TV and get the necessary grounding/experience before giving her a show.

But she isn´t "messed up freak". If she was, I´d agree with you...

Again, referring to that interview; already back then, when own Chat Show was nothing but dream, NK pointed out most people want to see her because of Priklopil crime, and expect her to be some kind of freak. She knows the deal well enough, and choosed to go for it anyway. She made the choice.

[giacomo]

Very stupid thread title.

Concerning the topic: Kampusch seems to know very well how to handle all the media hype since the day of her escape, a very impressive feat considering the circumstances she grew up under.

After suffering such a fate, one expected a person who needed years of care and protection. But she was the one to dictate the terms in all aspects.


Personally I don't think that becoming a TV host is a very good idea; but it's her life, and finally she is free to do whatever she wants to do.
And the freedom of doing your own decisions is the most important thing in life. Even the freedom to make your own mistakes is a great thing.

[StefanV]

Originally posted by taran


NK is a victim who suffered a horrible ordeal. Unfortunately, 99.9% of her viewers will be watching to see the poor little girl and how messed up she is, kind of like a freak show. Unlike other famous personalities, she doesn't even have fame or a career in something else to fall back on.

That is very true. Also true is that that NK want to the very same viewers to see that she has an identity, that she, in spite of what happened, is a bright young woman with a career in front of her. Come back and complain if she sucks. But I don't think she will.

[macoran]

Originally posted by djned
we're arguing different points. whether this is something she wants to do or not (and i don't begrudge her that), the tv network is exploiting her, and that isn't right.

Isn't she exploiting the money earning possibilities ? she's earning oodles of cash with her story !
I have no problem with that, because she has suffered enough.......but don't lay the blame beyond
the person raking in the cash.

[undersquare]

Well she is a strong person isn't she, I read she kept quiet when his mother came round, to avoid distressing her. So I can well imagine she's in control and seeing it as an opportunity to develop her life, good luck to her.

[StefanV]

The trailer

[Chiara]

Good luck to her, I would imagine part of the draw instead of being to watch a 'freak show' would be to marvel at this very brave girl and how she is getting on with her life despite everything she has been through, which must be more than most ordinary people can imagine. Total respect to her!

I think its quite inspiring actually - she is setting a good example for many, that no matter what adversity you have to endure, you can come out the other side and be a stronger person and get on with life.

If I remember correctly from the photos she was quite a pretty young lady too - which helps when working in TV ;)

Go Natascha!

[Spunout]

Chiara,

That is exactly how I feel as well

Nowadays people are seen as little more than products of enviroment. Lived in bad neighbourhood? Nobody to blame if you became drug dealer. Didn´t get that toy car in the age of 5? Damn, you´re screwed. Natascha has indeed proven how important choices are, and how strong human will can be.

Let´s see how the interview goes

[potmotr]

Originally posted by giacomo

Very stupid thread title.

Sorry mate, I've already apologised above.
But I think Niki Lauda is probably the last person to be offended.
He's made fun of his own misfortune many times.

[potmotr]

It seems Natasha isn't a bad interviewer. Especially impressive as she didn't have many people to talk to for eight years.
http://www.guardian....tria.television

[Perigee]

Originally posted by taran


Unlike other famous personalities, she doesn't even have fame or a career in something else to fall back on.

Unfortunately, the majority of "celebrities" these days rarely have a career or talent in something else to fall back on. 'Famous for being famous' really. The likes of Kerry Katona and Spice Girls and Lindsay Lohan and that hideous Hilton girl manage to get their dum grinning faces smeered over the wide range of utterly **** publications each week, but few of them have any perceptable talent, imho.

[The July Plot]

Sorry to interrupt the rights and wrongs of a former kidnap victim having her own show, but does anyone know when this goes out?

[Hacklerf]

Originally posted by potmotr


Sorry mate, I've already apologised above.
But I think Niki Lauda is probably the last person to be offended.
He's made fun of his own misfortune many times.

Yea exactly, if Niki was to title the thread himself he probably would have used pretty much the same words

i say good on the girl, she is an inspiration, much in the same way Niki is

[FrankB]

Originally posted by taran

NK is a victim who suffered a horrible ordeal. Unfortunately, 99.9% of her viewers will be watching to see the poor little girl and how messed up she is, kind of like a freak show.

Try changing K to L, her to his, little girl to man and she to he.

Is it still so wrong? Is the TV station exploiting one more than the other? TV (rightly or wrongly) wants people with an interesting story behind them. Sometimes they can be intrusive, but in this case it seems that both interviewer and interviewee went in quite willingly and in full awareness of what they were committing themselves to.

Incidentally, this interview was mentioned on the radio this morning and it seems as though Niki ended up asking the questions!

[potmotr]

Originally posted by The July Plot
Sorry to interrupt the rights and wrongs of a former kidnap victim having her own show, but does anyone know when this goes out?

It went out over the weekend, here it is, providing you speak German...
Niki's unique selling point for the show was how he recovered from scars on the outside, while Natasha empathises by talking about her scars in the inside.

[The July Plot]

Sorry I dont speak German, can anybody translate the general gist of what was said?

[StefanV]

Originally posted by The July Plot
Sorry I dont speak German, can anybody translate the general gist of what was said?

Was only one minute of the actual interview on that Youtube clip, she basically asked if he had "everything he asked for" when he was a kid and then it fades during his answer.

[Josta]

Originally posted by Perigee

Unfortunately, the majority of "celebrities" these days rarely have a career or talent in something else to fall back on. 'Famous for being famous' really. The likes of Kerry Katona and Spice Girls and Lindsay Lohan and that hideous Hilton girl manage to get their dum grinning faces smeered over the wide range of utterly **** publications each week, but few of them have any perceptable talent, imho.

Paris Hilton has got talent. Trust me, I saw the video.

[potmotr]

Originally posted by The July Plot
Sorry I dont speak German, can anybody translate the general gist of what was said?

As I mentioned above, the general theme is Niki recovering from his burns and that experience. Niki details a bit of that, which is probably quite old hat for an Austrian audience. Natasha empathises and talks about her scars being on the inside. Niki questions her a bit about being locked up for eight years. Natasha talks about her love of Star Trek. Sorry, haven't got time to give a complete translation. Here's a story about it...

http://www.telegraph...ision-show.html

[Spunout]

Based on that article I´d say NK appears more intelligent/educated than 99% of the people who had "normal" childhood. Even the Star Trek stuff makes lots of sense (!). Hopefully we´ll get subtitled version or smth...

[potmotr]

Originally posted by Spunout
Hopefully we´ll get subtitled version or smth...

It wasn't the best TV in the world, believe me...

[Spunout]

Originally posted by potmotr


It wasn't the best TV in the world, believe me...

Who knows...perhaps we have different opinion regarding "good TV"

[red stick]

I realize the title of this thread has been criticized already but at least it's been up long enough now that I'm reading it correctly. The first few times I somehow pictured it as "Lauda grilled by native girl" and wondered when the cannibals got hold of him.

[Mauseri]

Originally posted by Spunout
Based on that article I´d say NK appears more intelligent/educated than 99% of the people who had "normal" childhood. Even the Star Trek stuff makes lots of sense (!). Hopefully we´ll get subtitled version or smth...

Maybe it's just me, but whenever I get the feeling when someone is having a speech, and I cant avoid becoming a bit nervous for her/him getting on with the job adaquately, I think the person is in wrong place. With NK I got this feeling.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by micra_k10

Maybe it's just me, but whenever I get the feeling when someone is having a speech, and I cant avoid becoming a bit nervous for her/him getting on with the job adaquately, I think the person is in wrong place. With NK I got this feeling.

Good point. My opinion could be influenced by the fact that so much of TV is style over substance nowadays. You need right looks, right age, right makeup...remember to watch the camera...look confident...whatever. But the questions are the same pointless one we´ve already heard thousands of times.

[Mauseri]

Originally posted by Spunout
Good point. My opinion could be influenced by the fact that so much of TV is style over substance nowadays. You need right looks, right age, right makeup...remember to watch the camera...look confident...whatever. But the questions are the same pointless one we´ve already heard thousands of times.

This usual stuff brings the other feeling... namely the utter nonsense feeling which is flooding so much out of telly

I think it's nonsense to pull NK in TV. She may be intelligent and all but I dont think she can really add much more to it than her name. But if she likes making money being a mascot I dont blame her. TV is full of waste of human life anyway.

[Spunout]

Cynical, are we?

I´d rather say TV is by and large waste of human time. I have difficulties understanding how people who complain about lack of time have no problem spending 3 hours per day watching Osbournes, etc.

I´ll wait for translation/subbed version before judging NK.

[CeCe]

But it's just fine sitting in front of the tv for 2 hours watching a grand prix. Eh?

[Spunout]

Originally posted by CeCe
But it's just fine sitting in front of the tv for 2 hours watching a grand prix. Eh?

Of course it is! You´ll even have time for quick snack before the 4-hour NASCAR race is on

[Mauseri]

Originally posted by CeCe
But it's just fine sitting in front of the tv for 2 hours watching a grand prix. Eh?

I dont regard that as a waste of time, but spending the night (or week) after in a topic like "who sucks more massa or kimi" is