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[santori]

The 'the millions of drivers who speed routinely' are prats and and any bastard 'having fun' on public roads should be banned from driving on them.

But, as far as I know, that doesn't have anything to do with Anthony Hamilton. I almost had an accident today while driving carefully, within the speed limit.

[Josta]

Originally posted by santori
I almost had an accident today while driving carefully, within the speed limit.

Which just goes to show that speed limits are useless. If you are a **** driver you will crash regardless of the speed.

[giacomo]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
Massa won in Turkey, but his car might have had CheatParts™ fitted so we'll have to wait and see whether he's actually a bit of a useless ****.

Weird post. And a bit off-topic, as it seems.

[giacomo]

Originally posted by santori
But, as far as I know, that doesn't have anything to do with Anthony Hamilton. I almost had an accident today while driving carefully, within the speed limit.

I hope for you it wasn't near a children playground. That would be pretty damning and certainly not acceptable for someone who has been involved into motorsport as a F1 forum member for so long.

[Spaceframe]

Originally posted by Josta


Which just goes to show that speed limits are useless. If you are a **** driver you will crash regardless of the speed.

Or it just goes to show that speed limits do make a difference - had it been above the limit, we might very well have been without the "almost" in the sentence "I almost had an accident today"...

Come to think of it, all my close encounters with other cars have been performed while the gear was in reverse...

[Josta]

Come to think of it, all my close encounters with other cars have been performed while the gear was in reverse...

That would be why. If you drive everywhere backwards, then even if you stay under the limit it is dangerous.

[Spaceframe]

Originally posted by Josta


That would be why. If you drive everywhere backwards, then even if you stay under the limit it is dangerous.

Or rather that known spaces sometimes are more dangerous than unknown roads - all three of them occured on very familar ground. But I fortunately don't drive backwards all the time - less than 0,1 percent of the total time spent behind the wheel is a pretty accurate estimate.

[Bloggsworth]

And this is relevant because.........................................

A) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

B) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

C) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

D) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

[steelyman]

the porsche was not strong enough for him.

he should have been driving a benz, then he could have binned it and kept on motoring.

how much distance does it take to stop a carrera GT from 30mph btw?

[blackgerby]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I appreciate it's only a guess that AH was speeding, but it certainly looks from the photo like more than 30mph of damage.

Crash test of a (different) Porsche at 34mph

still think so?

or just hoping so?

[jesee]

Originally posted by Bloggsworth
And this is relevant because.........................................

A) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

B) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

C) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

D) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

It is a very strange phenomenon. Some people cant sleep without thinking of hamilton, his dad, his girlfriends, his crane, his relationship with alonso, his ......jeez. Guys give it a rest. His dad has a simple dent and it is headline news generating a big thread as this! It is his first accident in 30years, older than his son, older than some guys here and people want to hang and quarter him without knowing the facts of the accident? The poor man was even so embarrased he had to send his wife to sort the issue and people want to slate him? It is just nuts!

[giacomo]

Reminds me a bit of good old Ron Dennis crashing his McLaren F1 super road car immediately before its presentation.

Crashing a borrowed Carrera GT must be likewise embarrassing. And expensive.

[Josta]

Originally posted by giacomo
Reminds me a bit of good old Ron Dennis crashing his McLaren F1 super road car immediately before its presentation.

Crashing a borrowed Carrera GT must be likewise embarrassing. And expensive.

Did he? I know Rowan Atkinson totalled his into the back of a Metro.

[giacomo]

Originally posted by Josta


Did he? I know Rowan Atkinson totalled his into the back of a Metro.

He did. Jo Ramirez mentioned the episode in his brilliant book. Very amusing.

[fukkinen]

Like father, like son.
Lewis touched the walls in Monaco.
Tony touched a fence near home.
It was the very same corner of the car.

[Raelene]

some people take things way too seariously

This was a light hearted thread - about why the Hamilton's were in Porsche's and not Mercs ;);)

relax people

[Timstr11]

Originally posted by Bloggsworth
And this is relevant because.........................................

A) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

B) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

C) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

D) It's another chance to have a dig at Lewis Hamilton

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by kar
We don't know if he was speeding. But if he was, then his son made quite pointed and very specific comments about the responsibility of people involved in the sport to be role models. As the representative of Lewis' interests commercial, sporting and otherwise, he too has a responsibility not to popularise reckless driving and speeding.

And Mosley isn't [involved in the sport]? We both know what Mosley had to say about speeding; that he would resign if he got caught speeding. Well, to my knowledge, Daddy Lew wasn't caught speeding, so that would be status quo - with Max, wouldn't it.

[Raelene]

But if he was, then his son made quite pointed and very specific comments about the responsibility of people involved in the sport to be role models

it was funny when he made that speech - right after getting busted for speeding in France ;);)

[Raelene]

the mirror

Tree surgeon Daniel Winn, 23, told the Mirror: "I was working near his house and saw him leave in the Porsche. He started revving the car really hard and wheel-spinned off. He had the roof down and looked at me before he put his foot down. He roared off and 50 yards down the road lost it on the corner.


"The car spun around at 180 degrees and left the road. There was a terrible bang. I ran over and I asked if he was alright. He just said 'yes' and staggered off, looking really shocked.

"A bit later he drove back in a 4X4 to take a look at the Porsche. I rang to report the accident."

[kar]

Originally posted by Raelene
the mirror

Tree surgeon Daniel Winn, 23, told the Mirror: "I was working near his house and saw him leave in the Porsche. He started revving the car really hard and wheel-spinned off. He had the roof down and looked at me before he put his foot down. He roared off and 50 yards down the road lost it on the corner.


"The car spun around at 180 degrees and left the road. There was a terrible bang. I ran over and I asked if he was alright. He just said 'yes' and staggered off, looking really shocked.

"A bit later he drove back in a 4X4 to take a look at the Porsche. I rang to report the accident."

Dunno how much I trust that to be honest. The 'he looked at me and then roared off', seems a bit contrived.

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by kismet
Hee, on a slightly flippant and disrespectful note, if I crashed a friend's sports car like that, I'd certainly hope I'd been doing considerably more than 30 mph at the time of the incident...

Mäby terr os a broblem vi te kaar [in Häkkinen-dialekt]

[prxty]

Originally posted by blackgerby



Crash test of a (different) Porsche at 34mph

still think so?

or just hoping so?

I hope you know the difference between a concrete wall and a garden fence.
But I have my doubts. Let's try with your head and come back and tell us the difference.

[blackgerby]

Originally posted by prxty

I hope you know the difference between a concrete wall and a garden fence.
But I have my doubts. Let's try with your head and come back and tell us the difference.

That's my point....

car versus brick wall at 30 - lots of damage

car versus garden fence at 30 - not so much damage (e.g. a couple of splits at the back of the car)

car versus garden fence at 60 - lots of damage


think about it.

[bogi]

versiberba
slategray
kar



Nice collection

[hedges]

Originally posted by Raelene
the mirror
Tree surgeon Daniel Winn, 23, told the Mirror: "I was working near his house and saw him leave in the Porsche. He started revving the car really hard and wheel-spinned off. He had the roof down and looked at me before he put his foot down. He roared off and 50 yards down the road lost it on the corner.


"The car spun around at 180 degrees and left the road. There was a terrible bang. I ran over and I asked if he was alright. He just said 'yes' and staggered off, looking really shocked.

"A bit later he drove back in a 4X4 to take a look at the Porsche. I rang to report the accident."

Originally posted by kar

Dunno how much I trust that to be honest. The 'he looked at me and then roared off', seems a bit contrived.

A tree surgeon with an axe to grind? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I slay me!

[Chui]

:

OUCH!!! I'd THOROUGHLY PISSED if that were my car...

On a lighter note you know how dad's can be, "Son, in my day we..." Well, looks like Dad is NOT the better driver despite having to walk to school ten miles up hill both ways.

[mclarensmps]

Originally posted by Chui
:

OUCH!!! I'd THOROUGHLY PISSED if that were my car...

On a lighter note you know how dad's can be, "Son, in my day we..." Well, looks like Dad is NOT the better driver despite having to walk to school ten miles up hill both ways.

My dad used to do his shenanigans in a Mini mk1 . How times have changed!

[santori]

Originally posted by Josta


Which just goes to show that speed limits are useless. If you are a **** driver you will crash regardless of the speed.

If I'd been speeding in an otherwise identical situation I would have had an accident.

[Chiara]

http://en.f1-live.co...606120028.shtml

Hamilton laughs off father's Porsche crash
Trains the preferred transportation method for Lewis
06/06/08 12:00

Lewis Hamilton on Thursday laughed off his father's crash at the wheel of a $600,000 sports car.

On Wednesday, Anthony Hamilton - who is also the 23-year-old McLaren driver's manager - crashed a borrowed Porsche Carrera GT through a hedge and into a children's playground near his UK home.

"I got Dad's email yesterday and I just laughed," Hamilton was quoted as saying from the scene of the Canadian Grand Prix by The Sun.

"He is a very good driver but I don't know what he was up to," the championship leader added.

To The Mirror, Lewis also said: "My dad's my manager and loves cars. But, whenever we go somewhere, I'd always rather go by train."

Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

[LostProphet]

Originally posted by giacomo
Anthony clearly chose the wrong Porsche - a Cayenne would have flattened that scrubby bushes.

But then he'd have been caught driving one of the ugliest cars known to man, as opposed to one of the coolest, best looking ones ;)

[SlateGray]

Originally posted by LostProphet


But then he'd have been caught driving one of the ugliest cars known to man, as opposed to one of the coolest, best looking ones ;)

Correction: Big Ham would have been caught CRASHING one of the ugliest cars known to man, as opposed to one of the coolest, best looking ones.

Better to crash a ugmo SUV thean a nice sports car, Just mho.

[David M. Kane]

Those GTs must be tricky to drive, two guys were killed in one at Fontana in California during a track foe exotic cars a year or so ago. The track settle with the widow.widows for $4.5M. They went off in an area where the track was doing some construction and the temporary safety fencing/barriers failed, etc.

[fukkinen]

That car descends directlly from the real deal Le Mans Porsche contender, at the same era Webber used to drive the javelin Mercedes.
Even with TC + ABS, it's a beast.

I remember a Dyscovery Channel Rides program when Jay Leno drove the Carrera at Indy.
JL was trying to brake some kind of street car speed record there, but spun at high speed and was lucky to go downwards with no contact to the wall.

[Melbourne Park]

The stats for Porsche "911" turbos used to be that over 50% were crashed. I read that many years ago, but I always felt it was related to older people crashing a car too fast for them, and being a beast where one needed to keep the power on in order to balance the car. Hamilton's Dad would be able to drive well IMO, but the street is no longer a place for fast cars unfortunately, let alone an absolute super car, which only make sense IMO either on the track, or for posing.

[David M. Kane]

MP it would work on the Autobahn too. If one can afford a super car, they'd have much, much more fun racing a Historic race car like a Brabham BT29, March 73B, 74B, etc.

[Chui]

I rather doubt the Carrera GT is a DIRECT descendant of the LeMans contender. The engine stems back to F1 FOOTWORK ARROWS V10 which Arrows dropped due to it being too heavy and underpowered. I have one of the first issues of Race Car Engineering which featured it. I think that would have been 1991. The project engine (parts of the concept, at least, as I have no idea what survived) was revived for a potential LeMans project that ended up being stillborn. I don't think it's the engine design that Porsche would have settled on if they had the funds to develop what they wished. I believe they would have chosen a V12 of about 6.0L displacement.

As for being "sharp" handling read evo magazine, autocar and car magazines. Also check out the TV program Topgear. They all claim that it's somewhat unforgiving at the limit. Even US car magazines insinuate this. I don't doubt it at all.

If I had Rothschild money I'd have one or two of them as well as a couple of GT3RSs - glutton that I am...