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[primer]

Astonishing pace from Lewis. I doubt it is all because of fuel though...Mclaren + Mercedes have found something.

Kubica Nick :

Kimi and Massa struggled with the Sector 3 times all through the session, otherwise they might have been on front row.

Trulli I fully expect safety car tomorrow.

[Deeq]

tsk tsk

[FlashMaster]

Nick was doing good today... only 0.1s slower than Kubica in Q2. Theissen said on Premier that he's quite satisfied about Nick's performance today - including Q3. That means he's pretty heavy

[mursuka80]

Originally posted by primer
Astonishing pace from Lewis. I doubt it is all because of fuel though...Mclaren + Mercedes have found something.

Kubica Nick :

Kimi and Massa struggled with the Sector 3 times all through the session, otherwise they might have been on front row.

Trulli I fully expect safety car tomorrow.

They clearly havent given heikki that something

[postajegenye]

Lewis 0.6 sec... awesome, even if it's strategy
Kubica
Massa, Kova :
Alonso, Nico
Heidfeld :
Piquet

[RiDE]

Hamiltowned

Kubica

[devil500]

Lewis is lighter if he was over .5 faster than Ferrari and BMW..

[SeanValen]

Hamilton is strong at Canada, track suites him, plus the mclaren is good. Well deseved pole.

I hope the ferrari's have race pace though, otherwise it'll be Hamilton claiming to be new master of this track, a track Schumacher won so much on.

Monaco and Canada back to back for 2 years now, Hamilton has been strong at these races, stronger then say even Alonso last year, got to give it to him.

But the track is breaking up is concern for everyone, anything can happen in the race.

[Francesc]

Nakajima Missed Q3 by only half a tenth
Kubica Very good
Alonso: Surprise of the day
Ferrari drivers: Get rid of them
Barrichello: Showing amazing speed
DC: Blaming others as always
Rosberg: Shame he missed P3 by only a tenth

[mursuka80]

Originally posted by SeanValen
Hamilton is strong at Canada, track suites him, plus the mclaren is good. Well deseved pole.

I hope the ferrari's have race pace though, otherwise it'll be Hamilton claiming to be new master of this track, a track Schumacher won so much on.

Monaco and Canada back to back for 2 years now, Hamilton has been strong at these races, stronger then say even Alonso last year, got to give it to him.

But the track is breaking up is concern for everyone, anything can happen in the race.

Webber said that tomorrow you need motocross bikes not F1 cars because big chunks are breaking from the surface He said also that F1 shouldnt run there

[Galko877]

Fantastic drive by Lewis. This is starting to be last year's Lewis again.

The race is his to take, he seems to be flying around here and be able to pull extra tenths whenever it's needed. I think his only opponents are the walls, to which sometimes he is going very, very close...

Very well done to Kubica, Alonso and Rosberg too, although the latter two benefitted from a poor job by Heikki, Felipe and Nick, the difference to the pole man is not any unusal.

Average job by Kimi and a poor one by Massa and Kovalainen. Massa simply messed up his last quick lap, I don't think what happened to Kovalainen.

It seems the track is still not a Ferrari track, just like it wasn't last season. They need demage limitation here.

I felt sorry for Webber. In Q2 he was as quick as Alonso, so he could have fought for P4 in Q3, but oh well, he made a mistake.

[postajegenye]

Originally posted by Francesc

Ferrari drivers: Get rid of them

I don't say 'get rid of them' but I do think that one of Ferrari's problems are their drvers.

[bankoq]

McLaren's car is unbeatable in sector 3 here. What happened to Heikke? I musta have made some mistakes.

[pjabyrne]

Where was Hekki today? He did a good job at Monaco considering Lewis is a bit of a specialist there.
But today I think maybe LH is at his best at low speed corners?

Alonso and Webber out-drove their cars also - pity the latter hit the wall though.

A small performance step from BMW could see Kubica become a championship contender. He's been really consistent & is well up in the points

[quasi C]

Come on, it's clear the car was struggling in s3 badly. Ferrari have taken easily the most poles this year so far, it can't be the drivers. Just Kudos to hamilton who somehow, here, bitchslapped the rest, plain and simple.

Kubica and Alonso showing their class too.

[Blueray]

The Ferraris were absolutely pathetic out there today, no excuse for them to miles slower in s3 than even Alonso. Kimi was 4 tenths slower than Alonso there and he had the same trap speed.

Hamilton destroyed everyone even if he is a bit light. What the hell was heiki doing out there?

Alonso performing miracles again in qualify, but it seemed he made a mistake in s2 on his second run and dint improve so he could have easily been 3rd.

Doesnt look like anyone will beat Hamilton tomorrow.

[airwise]

I've been wondering since Hamilton's quick stint in practice 2 whether Mclaren have decided to go with an aggressive strategy with the expectation of multiple safety cars. The gaps in qualifying do point to something happening with strategy but Hamilton was visibly superior to anyone else out there lap after lap, able to drift closer to the walls and take more of the curbs. Watching that commitment and precision was awesome. Only Alonso seemed to be on the same planet.

[beanoid]

Wow, just watching the press conference--Kimi is uncharacteristically complaining. Things must be bad in the red camp. He was only complaining about the track, calling it a "joke," but still--he's usually so stoic.

[outofspace]

Great run from Ham. But better than his car -> Kubica

Can you image him in Ferrari or Mclaren

[pingu666]

amazing pace by lewis, whatever fuel he has or hasnt got... good to see nakajima quick, and np doing better

itll be luck to whoever finishes tomoz if the track breaks up like its been doing

some cool camera work done aswell

[mursuka80]

Originally posted by airwise
I've been wondering since Hamilton's quick stint in practice 2 whether Mclaren have decided to go with an aggressive strategy with the expectation of multiple safety cars. The gaps in qualifying do point to something happening with strategy but Hamilton was visibly superior than anyone else out there lap after lap, able to drift closer to the walls and take more of the curbs. Watching that commitment and precision was awesome. Only Alonso seemed to be on the same planet.

JoopaJoo

[Alfisti]

I just cannot remember a season where the drivers have had so much influence, for the past 10 years it's felt like car 99% and driver 1% but this year, the grids is such a mixed bag of cars. We're just not seeing the 2x2 formation grids we have seen for so many years.

[primer]

Originally posted by Francesc
Ferrari drivers: Get rid of them

Which two drivers would you prefer to replace KR & FM?

[jesee]

Jeez, hamilton must be on fumes or something! How the heck do you explain the difference even though i know he is very good?

Anyway, whatever the strategy that was amazing pole, although i was rooting for the pole on pole

Kubica This guy should go to ferari if kimi leaves. Then we can see lewis versus kubica war begin in earnest. Brilliant drive.

Kimi, what the heck is happenning

Kova Not good enough unless he is filled to the brim. The difference to lewis is huge no matter waht fuel he is carrying.

Alonso Good drive but i think he is on fumes as usual.

[DiStefano]

Originally posted by jesee

Alonso Good drive but i think he is on fumes as usual.

Only .1 from Kimi in Q2 and 0.01 in Q3

Q2 Kimi 1:17.364 Alonso 1:17.488
Q3 Kimi 1:18.735 Alonso 1:18.746

Pretty damn good for that dog of a car.

[Konsta]

Lewis was just flying - for the sake of racing I hope he was on fumes. Kudos to Robert as well as Fernando and Nico. Kimi was quite solid yet amazingly slow on S3. Felipe was anonymous as was Heikki. Hopefully LH won´t run away tomorrow.

[Anomnader]

Originally posted by airwise
I've been wondering since Hamilton's quick stint in practice 2 whether Mclaren have decided to go with an aggressive strategy with the expectation of multiple safety cars. The gaps in qualifying do point to something happening with strategy but Hamilton was visibly superior to anyone else out there lap after lap, able to drift closer to the walls and take more of the curbs. Watching that commitment and precision was awesome. Only Alonso seemed to be on the same planet.

Well, being light for pole doesn't mean he is going to be light all the race, in his first stop he could fill up heavy, will his light load and speed around here he might be able to pull out almost second a lap, depending how far he go on the low fuel he might be able to pit and come out in front

a lot depends on SC


If there is a lot of safety cars, is it good to be stopping a few times or running heavy?

[color]

Originally posted by outofspace
-> Kubica
Can you image him in Ferrari or Mclaren [/B]

yes I can. you would get next WDC from this mix.

[Peter Perfect]

Originally posted by DiStefano


Only .1 from Kimi in Q2 and 0.01 in Q3

Q2 Kimi 1:17.364 Alonso 1:17.488
Q3 Kimi 1:18.735 Alonso 1:18.746

Pretty damn good for that dog of a car.

Definitely a good drive by Alonso, but an amazing one by Rubens. 9th in the Honda would have been beyond his wildest dreams. Looking at his q3 time I assume he's gone for a 1 stopper so fingers crossed!

[primer]

I am particularly looking forward to Stefano Domenicali's monologue as he attempts to explain today's performance (S3 in particular). This chap is making me appreciate Jean Todt.

jesee: I feel Kubica would be better served to stay at BMW, they'll be in winner's circle soon.

[pasadena]

Lewis great lap, fuel notwithstanding
Kubica this guy is seriously fast
Kimi had it not been for Massa's terrible performance, I would have given him more thumbs down
Alonso master at work
Rosberg very good

[Sith]

The track is breaking up.. Kimi said it's a joke and it's been like this for the past 3 years, they keep patching it up but hsaid they should get people from somewhere else to fix it. He was expecting to fight for pole. If you get that lap right it makes a big difference, as you can see by the times...

This was also the reason why Webber went off at the end of Q2...

[Menace]

Originally posted by Francesc
Nakajima Missed Q3 by only half a tenth
Kubica Very good
Alonso: Surprise of the day
Ferrari drivers: Get rid of them
Barrichello: Showing amazing speed
DC: Blaming others as always
Rosberg: Shame he missed P3 by only a tenth

I think it would be much more beneficial to this board if we just got writ of you.

[postajegenye]

Kubica is amazing this year, I think he's shown the best performance so far this season. Others (especially Hamilton) may have had better races but they made more mistakes / had bad races too.
Kubica would probably be 2nd in the WDC with the same amount of points as Hami if Nakajima hadn't driven into him in Australia. (I know, it makes no sense wondering about 'ifs', but still...

[Menace]

Originally posted by Blueray
The Ferraris were absolutely pathetic out there today, no excuse for them to miles slower in s3 than even Alonso. Kimi was 4 tenths slower than Alonso there and he had the same trap speed.

Hamilton destroyed everyone even if he is a bit light. What the hell was heiki doing out there?

Alonso performing miracles again in qualify, but it seemed he made a mistake in s2 on his second run and dint improve so he could have easily been 3rd.

Doesnt look like anyone will beat Hamilton tomorrow.

For anyone with a brain, it should have been obvious that turn 10 provided much more traction issues to Ferrari then Mclaren. You just had to listen to the Ferraris coming out of that turn.

Both Kimi and Massa seemed faster in the first two sectors. The race is not over yet, I suspect we will see more then one safety car tomorrow an fuel/tire strategy will win or lose this race.

[airwise]

Originally posted by Anomnader

If there is a lot of safety cars, is it good to be stopping a few times or running heavy?

That's what I've been trying to work out since yesterday

But Hamilton was hugely quicker in Q1 and Q2 IIRC. Certainly when everyone had done just the one run. And again most of it came at that final chicane - just as last year.

[Menace]

Originally posted by pasadena
Lewis great lap, fuel notwithstanding
Kubica this guy is seriously fast
Kimi had it not been for Massa's terrible performance, I would have given him more thumbs down
Alonso master at work
Rosberg very good

How exactly was Kimi's performance poor? Can't we get permanently rid of these trolls that just re-register under a new nick? If you dont have anything constructive to say, dont open your gap. You sound like an idiot. I surely would not blame Massa OR Kimi for the track breaking down. Clearly Mclaren is just much better in terms of traction out of that corner. All you had to do was listen.

[slvraro]

Great qualifying session with difficult track conditions.

Great lap by Hamiliton

Looking at the times with the safety car potential as a lens, it would appear that all three of the top teams have chosen a strategy of going light with one car and fairly heavy with the second.

anyone have an idea of how much extra fuel 1-1.5 seconds accounts for?

[Anomnader]

Originally posted by airwise


That's what I've been trying to work out since yesterday

But Hamilton was hugely quicker in Q1 and Q2 IIRC. Certainly when everyone had done just the one run. And again most of it came at that final chicane - just as last year.

did you get a answer?

I suppose it works more on the timing of the safety car more then anything

[klover]

Originally posted by pasadena
Lewis great lap, fuel notwithstanding
Kubica this guy is seriously fast
Kimi had it not been for Massa's terrible performance, I would have given him more thumbs down
Alonso master at work
Rosberg very good

Who were you again? Hrvoje or arrow? Keep up the good work mate

[Galko877]

Originally posted by postajegenye
Kubica is amazing this year, I think he's shown the best performance so far this season. Others (especially Hamilton) may have had better races but they made more mistakes / had bad races too.
Kubica would probably be 2nd in the WDC with the same amount of points as Hami if Nakajima hadn't driven into him in Australia. (I know, it makes no sense wondering about 'ifs', but still...

I agree. The guy is fast and consistent. You need nothing else.

[DoubleWDC]

Originally posted by Menace


I think it would be much more beneficial to this board if we just got writ of you.

At least Vrba stays true to form.

[pasadena]

Originally posted by Menace


How exactly was Kimi's performance poor? Can't we get permanently rid of these trolls that just re-register under a new nick? If you dont have anything constructive to say, dont open your gap. You sound like an idiot. I surely would not blame Massa OR Kimi for the track breaking down. Clearly Mclaren is just much better in terms of traction out of that corner. All you had to do was listen.

Massa's performance was disgraceful, Kimi's was poor. He barely beat a Renault and qualified 0.8 secs behind pole. In a Ferrari.

BTW, it's significant that only several of the most blind KR fans here won't see the truth but instead resort to personal attacks. Why don't you jump on me for calling Massa's (whom I am a fan) qualifying shameful? Because it was. Just as Kimi's was bad.

[Blueray]

Originally posted by Menace


For anyone with a brain, it should have been obvious that turn 10 provided much more traction issues to Ferrari then Mclaren. You just had to listen to the Ferraris coming out of that turn.

Both Kimi and Massa seemed faster in the first two sectors. The race is not over yet, I suspect we will see more then one safety car tomorrow an fuel/tire strategy will win or lose this race.

For anyone with a brain it should have been obvious I was comparing Ferrari to RENAULT, not Mclaren.

[pullings]

Hamilton >> what a great lap. He is in own league. His lap was a Kiss of God. Noone could do better.

Alonso >> I dont like this guy but respect for him. He destroyed his teammate and did great lap.

Rosberg >> Again he proved that he guy who should go to Ferrari or BMW.

Vetter >> bad luck

Raikonen >> good but not very good.

Kovalainen >> he proved that he is good pointscorer but not champ. So he is great teammate.

Massa >> where are you ?

BMW >> I dont know what to say. Kubica is extreme light. Propably 12-14 lap and he made huge mistake in sector 2. So his lap didnt impress me.
Heidfeld is heavy on fuel so I think this was good qual for him but I dont understand why they always put Kubica on better strategy.
Heidfeld could pole.

[inca_roads]

Superb from Hamilton - that was the most dominant qualifying performance I've seen for quite some time. And I don't think at all it's down to fuel, he was clearly quicker than anybody else throughout the whole of qualifying. He might be a bit lighter, but not 7 tenths lighter.

[Blueray]

If anyone doubts Hamiltons extreme arrogance just look at his 'celebration' when he got out of the car.

[primer]

Originally posted by Sith
The track is breaking up.. Kimi said it's a joke and it's been like this for the past 3 years, they keep patching it up but hsaid they should get people from somewhere else to fix it.

Do they just re-lay the top tarmac / cement layer? That entire section needs to be excavated and rebuilt fresh.

Perhaps some Chinese or Malaysian company can share the classified and restricted technologies with these guys to help them build a proper surface

[primer]

Originally posted by Blueray
If anyone doubts Hamiltons extreme arrogance just look at his 'celebration' when he got out of the car.

Oh I changed channels, what'd he do?

[Menace]

Originally posted by pasadena
Massa's performance was disgraceful, Kimi's was poor. He barely beat a Renault and qualified 0.8 secs behind pole. In a Ferrari.

BTW, it's significant that only several of the most blind KR fans here won't see the truth but instead resort to personal attacks. Why don't you jump on me for calling Massa's (whom I am a fan) qualifying shameful? Because it was. Just as Kimi's was bad.

Nice try. Your not a fan at all, all you do is troll the Ferrari drivers and their performances week in week out. Every single problem the Ferrari's have is always due to the drivers in your opinion, and you use it endlessly to prove the worth of the other drivers whom you praise, mainly Alonso. If your argument is that the Ferrari drivers are not worthy of their ride, there is no space for rational conversation.

Kimi was amongst the fastest in both first two sectors, how exactly is that bad? You whole argument falls onthe premise that it was Massa and Kimi's fault that they had bad traction in turn 10. The reality however seems much closer to it being a problem with the Ferraris setup or engine mapping, rather then the drivers.

PS., dont try to speak for the whole board. I bet if you start a poll your opinion is far from the majority here... perhaps you should go ahead and give it a shot?